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    Post  AlfaT8 on Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:16 am

    Gents, it looks like the U.S navy is finally going to implement rail guns on there ships, what's Russia's response?
    Do they even need one with Zircon on the way?

    On a further note, how does one counter a Rail gun?
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:09 pm

    Just a very high speed bullet... likely the best counter to the first generation of rail gun is to reveal actual performance results and suppress laughter...

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    Post  JohninMK on Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:57 pm

    That didn't take long.

    YOKOSUKA, Japan - The commanding officer, executive officer and command master chief of the guided-missile destroyer USS Fitzgerald (DDG 62) were relieved of their duties by Vice Adm. Joseph Aucoin, Commander, Seventh Fleet, on Aug. 18. Additionally, a number of officer and enlisted watch standers were held accountable. The determinations were made following a thorough review of the facts and circumstances leading up to the June 17 collision between Fitzgerald and the merchant vessel ACX Crystal.

    The collision was avoidable and both ships demonstrated poor seamanship. Within Fitzgerald, flawed watch stander teamwork and inadequate leadership contributed to the collision that claimed the lives of seven Fitzgerald Sailors, injured three more, and damaged both ships.

    With absolute accountability for the safe navigation of Fitzgerald, Cmdr. Bryce Benson was relieved due to a loss of confidence in his ability to lead. He had previously been temporarily relieved of his duties due to medical reasons from injuries sustained during the collision. Cmdr. Benson is being reassigned to Naval District Washington at the Washington Navy Yard, where he will have access to medical facilities in the area.

    Inadequate leadership by the executive officer, Cmdr. Sean Babbitt, and command master chief, Master Chief Petty Officer Brice Baldwin, contributed to the lack of watch stander preparedness and readiness that was evident in the events leading up to the collision.

    Several junior officers were relieved of their duties due to poor seamanship and flawed teamwork as bridge and combat information center watch standers. Additional administrative actions were taken against members of both watch teams.




    http://www.cpf.navy.mil/news.aspx/130183
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    Post  Guest on Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:36 am

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    Hole patched for start and reinforced with construction steel profiles.
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    Post  JohninMK on Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:42 am

    Militarov wrote:

    Hole patched for start and reinforced with construction steel profiles.
    They have done enough so that they can get her back to the US for deep investigation and repair if possible.

    Definitely a big blot, Grade 1 ignominy, on the reputation of the USN. Multiple levels of incompetence. It will take a long time for them to live this down.
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    Post  Guest on Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:16 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    Militarov wrote:

    Hole patched for start and reinforced with construction steel profiles.
    They have done enough so that they can get her back to the US for deep investigation and repair if possible.

    Definitely a big blot, Grade 1 ignominy, on the reputation of the USN. Multiple levels of incompetence. It will take a long time for them to live this down.

    Yes, it was just a quick patching, general repairs will be performed later. Damage wasnt that huge as some originally reported, and ship wasnt in danger, however lives were lost and repairs will cost quite a penny considering hole isnt that tiny Very Happy

    From what i read seems it was mostly fuckup by XO.
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    Post  ATLASCUB on Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:07 am

    https://www.rt.com/usa/400332-destroyer-collides-vessel-singapore/
    5 injured, 10 missing after US destroyer USS John S McCain collides with oil tanker off Singapore
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    Those commercial shipping lanes have no stop lights.
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    Post  JohninMK on Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:41 am

    ATLASCUB wrote:
    5 injured, 10 missing after US destroyer USS John S McCain collides with oil tanker off Singapore

    Those commercial shipping lanes have no stop lights.
    How appropriate for it to be the ship with that name.

    More USN laughing stock ammo.
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    Post  Godric on Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:00 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    ATLASCUB wrote:
    5 injured, 10 missing after US destroyer USS John S McCain collides with oil tanker off Singapore

    Those commercial shipping lanes have no stop lights.
    How appropriate for it to be the ship with that name.

    More USN laughing stock ammo.

    yeah and after annoying the Chinese Karma is a bitch

    will they still have the gall to call other navies unprofessional ... yet again they don't do hypocrisy
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    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:35 pm


    Well this is getting weird.

    Although given the name of this ship, it might be cursed or something...
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    Post  JohninMK on Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:13 pm

    This is the follow-up report by Commander Carrier Strike Group FIVE on the USS Fitzgerald released after the initial report (the second post below) by the Commander Sixth Fleet.

    Whilst the report is very positive about the actions of the crew post impact, I draw your attention to the last sentence of para 1.

    "the injuries ............. and deaths........... occurred in the line of duty and not due to misconduct."

    http://www.secnav.navy.mil/foia/readingroom/HotTopics/USS%20Fitzgerald/Supplemental%20Inquiry%20USS%20Fitzgerald.pdf

    This came after this press release, my highlight.

    YOKOSUKA, Japan - The commanding officer, executive officer and command master chief of the guided-missile destroyer USS Fitzgerald (DDG 62) were relieved of their duties by Vice Adm. Joseph Aucoin, Commander, Seventh Fleet, on Aug. 18. Additionally, a number of officer and enlisted watch standers were held accountable. The determinations were made following a thorough review of the facts and circumstances leading up to the June 17 collision between Fitzgerald and the merchant vessel ACX Crystal.

    The collision was avoidable and both ships demonstrated poor seamanship. Within Fitzgerald, flawed watch stander teamwork and inadequate leadership contributed to the collision that claimed the lives of seven Fitzgerald Sailors, injured three more, and damaged both ships.


    With absolute accountability for the safe navigation of Fitzgerald, Cmdr. Bryce Benson was relieved due to a loss of confidence in his ability to lead. He had previously been temporarily relieved of his duties due to medical reasons from injuries sustained during the collision. Cmdr. Benson is being reassigned to Naval District Washington at the Washington Navy Yard, where he will have access to medical facilities in the area.

    Inadequate leadership by the executive officer, Cmdr. Sean Babbitt, and command master chief, Master Chief Petty Officer Brice Baldwin, contributed to the lack of watch stander preparedness and readiness that was evident in the events leading up to the collision.

    Several junior officers were relieved of their duties due to poor seamanship and flawed teamwork as bridge and combat information center watch standers. Additional administrative actions were taken against members of both watch teams.


    http://www.cpf.navy.mil/news.aspx/130183

    Whilst there will undoubtedly be career changes in the background, publicaly the sad fact is that the USN seems to regard death and injury to its sailors due, in its own words,  to "poor seamanship", "inadequate leadership" and "flawed teamwork" as being "in the line of duty" and not "misconduct".

    Now we have another collision, another whitewash?


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    Post  ATLASCUB on Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:13 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Well this is getting weird.

    Although given the name of this ship, it might be cursed or something...

    Tragic for sure...a bunch of sailors dead. Could be worse....at the least it seems in both occassions emergency protocols and procedures were followed well.
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    Post  Teshub on Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:45 pm

    So what do folks think?

    1) Poor training?
    2) Poor discipline?
    3) Flawed ship software update?
    4) Hacked ship's systems?
    5) EW shutdown of radar systems?
    6) Sheer coincidence?
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    Post  JohninMK on Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:48 pm

    Teshub wrote:So what do folks think?

    1) Poor training?
    2) Poor discipline?
    3) Flawed ship software update?
    4) Hacked ship's systems?
    5) EW shutdown of radar systems?
    6) Sheer coincidence?
    Given that this took place in very busy waters there should have been many non computer based monitoring systems active, human lookouts, so any computer based systems should in many ways have been backups. If there was some kind of computer issue or power shut down then there should have been more lookouts posted.

    Following the Fitzgerald such a short time ago this event is inexplicable.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:45 am

    Those cargo ships are absolutely colossall. I have no idea how anyone can fail to notice them.
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    Post  OminousSpudd on Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:27 am

    Teshub wrote:So what do folks think?

    1) Poor training?
    2) Poor discipline?
    3) Flawed ship software update?
    4) Hacked ship's systems?
    5) EW shutdown of radar systems?
    6) Sheer coincidence?
    Brain cancer lol1
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    Post  George1 on Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:26 am

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    Post  JohninMK on Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:25 pm

    Ignominy due to admitted incompetence.

    US7thFleet photo of USS John S. McCain on board MV Treasure headed to Yokosuka.

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    Post  JohninMK on Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:29 pm

    The puzzle in this picture is where are the other ships? I thought a Carrier Task Force was larger than a carrier and 4 others (plus submarines).

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    Post  JohninMK on Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:34 pm

    A photo the USN probably wishes was never taken, double ignomy. By an ally as well.

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    Post  George1 on Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:37 am

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    Post  George1 on Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:31 am

    Statistics: the US Navy's naval staff as of 01/01/2018

    The presented statistical study takes into account warships of the main classes (nuclear and non-nuclear submarines, aircraft carriers, cruisers, destroyers, frigates, corvettes, littoral warships, seagoing landing ships) with a total displacement of 2000 tons (above 1000 tons). that component of the Navy, which is capable of projecting force to remote regions of the world. The ships transferred to the fleet (decommissioned), starting from 01/01/2018, are included in the initial data for reference - they are not included in the total number of ships or in the total displacement. The names of the ships are given in Russian transcription, tested for compliance with either established (traditional) writing, or dictionary phonetic transcription.

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Sun May 06, 2018 4:07 am




    U.S. Navy is Recreating the Second Fleet


    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/us-navy-re-establishes-second-fleet-amid-russia-tensions/ar-AAwLz9g?li=AAggFp5&ocid=SKY2DHP



    It aims to challenge Russia in the northern part of the Atlantic. Back to the Cold War.
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    Post  George1 on Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:08 pm

    The NSM anti-ship missile was chosen for arming the American LCS ships

    On May 31, 2018, the Naval Sea Systems Command of the United States Navy gave the American corporation Raytheon a contract worth $ 14.856016 million for the delivery of the first batch (officially undisclosed - but apparently, eight) of NSM anti-ship missiles under the Over- the-Horizon Weapon Systems for equipping the "Littoral" LCS combat ships of the American fleet. The contract includes the delivery of one set of fire control systems, from which it can be concluded that the contract covers so far equipping the NSM PCS with only one LCS ship - apparently, for testing the integration of the complex into ships. Previously, in the budget request for Work should be completed by May 2020. However, the contract includes an option, the implementation of which will bring the total cost to 847.6 million dollars - that is, with the equipping of the NSM of all LCS ships.

    Thus, the NSM (Naval Strike Missile) anti-ship missile developed by the Norwegian Kongsberg group and offered by the Raytheon and Kongsberg consortium was selected for the "Over-the-Horizon Weapon Systems (OTH WS)" competition for equipping the "literal" LCS warships and actually adopted by the Navy USA. This is a great success for Kongsberg. In addition to LCS ships, the missile chosen for the OTH WS program should also be used to equip the prospective American frigates FFG (X), and, possibly, other US Navy surface ships.

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    Post  d_taddei2 on Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:50 pm

    Not really news but an article an opinion of a senior navy officer. Wants to bring back tomcat F-14


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