Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #3

Cosmonaut Feder Yurchikhin claims that the Oryol spacecraft does not even exist on paper now, and it takes at least 10 years to create such an apparatus from scratch.

Soyuz-5 is a deep modernization of the Soviet Zenith missile, using severalthe updated RD-171MV engine at the first stage.

Why this rocket is needed is not entirely clear, because instead of it it was possible to produce a carrier of a similar class Angara-A3 , which would further reduce the price of the series, but as they say, Roscosmos knows better and this is another project in our piggy bank of events.

Even Cosmonauts can be idiots with concealed agendas...

The author is just a small clown who is looking to sow seeds of discontent.

Kiko wrote:2023 will decide the fate of Roscosmos
28 December 2020

There are moments in time when different threads of fate come together and that "decisive moment" arises.

In the Russian cosmonautics, such an event will take place in 2023 , when the domestic space industry proves its right to leadership, or once again pushes developments into the back box.

So why will 2023 be so important to us?

First of all , this year the flight of a completely new spacecraft "Eagle" is to take place . Roskosmos plans to create two versions of this device. One of them will allow flights to the space station in Earth orbit, and the second, in the lunar version, will open the way to the Moon.

December 15 , 2023 , ship inunmanned version must make its first flight . In 2024 the flight should take place to the ISS station, and in 2025 it will already be manned.

By the way, in 2023 the manned version of the Angara will also make its first flight. At least it should.

However, not all are full of optimism. Cosmonaut Feder Yurchikhin claims that the Oryol spacecraft does not even exist on paper now, and it takes at least 10 years to create such an apparatus from scratch.

Here only time can judge the parties.

The second equally important project, which will start in 2023, will be the long-awaited Soyuz-5 rocket, which will take an intermediate place between the Royal Union and the heavy Proton.

Soyuz-5 is a deep modernization of the Soviet Zenith missile, using severalthe updated RD-171MV engine at the first stage.

Why this rocket is needed is not entirely clear, because instead of it it was possible to produce a carrier of a similar class Angara-A3 , which would further reduce the price of the series, but as they say, Roscosmos knows better and this is another project in our piggy bank of events.

And in 2023 , Roskosmos should start creatingRussian Orbital Station (ROS).

The modules of this station are already partially ready and either await launch as a module "Science", or are being tested as a Transport and Energy Module.

Commissioning the station will allow Russia to implement its own projects without regard to the opinions of "partners". Another question is whether Roskosmos will manage to meet the stated deadlines and whether the same disgrace will be repeated as with the Science module, which has been marinating on Earth for the second decade.

In addition, 2023 is also an important date for the Vostochny cosmodrome. By this timework should be completed on the construction of launch pads of the second stage, for the carrier "Angara".

Why is it important to implement all these projects on time?

It's simple. Competitors are not just treading on Russia's heels, but have already caught up or even surpassed us in many respects. The implementation of the entire stated complex of works will allow our country to preserve one of the leading places of the space Pantheon.

https://zen.yandex.ru/media/space_for_you/2023-god-reshit-sudbu-roskosmosa-5fe8ccc5dba1eb4af8f2c075

kvs wrote: I think this is just crypto-hate.   All these articles pissing on Russia and
predicting its doom are evidence of malice and not genuine concern.

Big_Gazza wrote:A launch pad for the Amur rocket will be built on Vostochny

MOSCOW, January 11. / TASS /. The construction of the launch pad for the Amur-LNG launch vehicle will become part of the third phase of the Vostochny cosmodrome construction. Roscosmos CEO Dmitry Rogozin announced this on Monday on his Facebook page.
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The-thing-next-door wrote:Which rocket is the Amur?

I thought they were only going ahead with the Angara, Soyuz 3 and Yenisei.

Daniel_Admassu wrote:

apparently landing-type. Probably 'Inspired' by Falcon

The-thing-next-door wrote:

Daniel_Admassu wrote:

apparently landing-type. Probably 'Inspired' by Falcon

I sure as hell hope not, that would be a massive waste of time for all of the bureaus involved.

My idea was a completely modular rocket with a detachable glide kit so it could fly back like the cancelled baikal, but that the winged part could be removed and used on new rockets once everything else is no longer safe.

Daniel_Admassu wrote:

That actually sounds like a great idea. Could be interesting on the Angara. I think apart from the turbopumps on the RD-191 everything else should have good longevity, including the propellant tanks.

So maybe no need for detachable wings after all. The URM module can be fitted with a new engine while the used one can be refurbished with new turbopumps and other necessary components.

The-thing-next-door wrote:
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I may ofcourse be wrong about all this, I am no aerospace designer.

Daniel_Admassu wrote:

The-thing-next-door wrote:Which rocket is the Amur?

I thought they were only going ahead with the Angara, Soyuz 3 and Yenisei.

A new one supposedly methane powered and reusable, apparently landing-type. Probably 'Inspired' by Falcon. But things are trending towards reusability and Russia would be right to experiment with it. But they could experiment with landing gear for URM-1. Making a separate rocket for Vostochny is absurd.

Probably 'Inspired' by Falcon

Daniel_Admassu wrote:

The-thing-next-door wrote:
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I may ofcourse be wrong about all this, I am no aerospace designer.

Neither am I🤫. Just rooting for reusability here.