Syrian War: News #15

JohninMK wrote:The US has suggested Russia to hold a meeting to discuss a future of Deir Ezzor, the Russian state-run media outlet RIA reported citing a diplomatic source.

According to the report, the American side idea is to hold a meeting this week and to discuss possible “zones of responsibility” to combat ISIS in Deir Ezzor.

In other words, Washington wants to set up a de-confliction zone in eastern Syria.

RIA’s source added that Russia has already provided own suggestions, including a map, to the US.

On September 5, the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) supported by the Russian Aerospace Forces broke the ISIS siege on the strategic city of Dier Ezzor and set a foothold for further advances in eastern Syria. The US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) reacted announcing own advance against ISIS north of Deir Ezzor on September 9.

On September 16, the SDF and the US-led coalition accused Russian forces of bombing the SDF north of Deir Ezzor. On September 18, the Russian Defense Ministry said that government forces have crossed the Euphrates.

It looks that the US-led coalition is loosing the race for eastern Syria. So, it now wants to negotiate some “diplomatic solution” of this situation.

https://southfront.org/usa-asks-russia-meeting-discuss-future-deir-ezzor-russian-media/#sthash.X0lTynyV.uxfs

Familiar pattern. Russia should not yield anything to these clowns. They have no business being in Syria in the first place. This
includes the "local" SDF which is a collection of US proxies.

So, M Zakharova was right. And the unreliable message was the message of the intoxicators.

to the reality.

https://twitter.com/Zinvor/status/909755487490576384

Crossing the River.

The Ottoman wrote:Turkey supported the FSA and the Syrian National Council against Assad, thats true, because Assad smashed the very first popular uprisings in a very harsh way.

Bullshit. The "popular" uprisings were foreign-backed MB provocations, and were intended to ignite sectarian conflict. Jihadi terrorists were pre-positioned within the crowds and ambushed the government police and security troops leaving dozens dead. They also made sure to kill plenty of civilians, and the entire Saudi-dominated Muslim sphere and the US/NATO nations, acting together in orchestrated fake-outage, INSTANTLY blamed the Syrian government for the entire fiasco. The hordes of foreign-backed terrorists then invaded from the Turkish border areas and flooded into Idlib and Aleppo, while the West and Saudi & satraps pounded the pulpit about "popular uprising".

Don't need to hear the jihadist fabrications about the cause of the Syrian conflict. Its as fake as the BS about Libya.

No sign of the US reducing their efforts

Lucifuge Rofocale‏ @rofoca_lucifuge 1h1 hour ago

Trucks loaded with supplies and U.S SOF military vehicles from KRG to N Syria via Semalka border crossing.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKEp3kDWsAAbQmr.jpg



Whilst the SAA steps up theirs

Hassan Ridha‏ @sayed_ridha 3h3 hours ago

Syrian Arab Army & allies reinforce their positions on the eastern bank of Euphrates River after liberating large parts of Mazloum & Marrat

HTS attacking SAA in north Hama.

They will end up like this.  
https://2ch.hk/wm/src/2806596/15058112142370.webm

eehnie wrote:So, M Zakharova was right. And the unreliable message was the message of the intoxicators.
 to the reality.

No you are the intoxicator here you fucking moron.


Now I believe her, they have show the proof. But yeah, it looks like they have crossed already couple days ago, now it's just a media show.

calm wrote:HTS attacking SAA in north Hama.

They will end up like this.  
https://2ch.hk/wm/src/2806596/15058112142370.webm

eehnie wrote:So, M Zakharova was right. And the unreliable message was the message of the intoxicators.
 to the reality.

No you are the intoxicator here you fucking moron.


Now I believe her, they have show the proof. But yeah, it looks like they have crossed already couple days ago, now it's just a media show.

She said that over a week ago. When she said it the SAA had not crossed now they did a couple days ago but that doesn't change the fact when she claimed they crossed they did not nor does the fact they crossed ow make her right when she was wrong.

The Ottoman wrote:
1.- Turkey supported the FSA and the Syrian National Council against Assad, thats true, because Assad smashed the very first popular uprisings in a very harsh way. The Western and Turkish media and the flew of Syrians to Turkey pushed Erdogan to make a statement and take a position.

But Turkey never supported Daesh, even the CIA briefly apoligized for this lie, or YPG/PKK. I dont know what you are drinking, but I want some of that to. Turkey used the FSA, the Turkmens and the Uighurs against Assad and YPG, and since the coup of juli 2016, Turkey stopped all support to the Syrian National Council and only supports FSA against YPG/PKK.

2.- The border between Turkey and Syria is more than 900 kilometers long. Ofcourse people will go through. The European jihadists travelled from Istanbul to Hatay with cars and busses via CIA/Mossad logistic support and the local ISIS-mercs where brought by the US with planes and ships from Libya. Now there is finally a wall between Turkey and Syria, and the second wall between Turkey and Iran is starting to be build. No more terrorists trespassing.

3.- The war against Syria was planned and scheduled since 2000, according to former US general Wesley Clark. Erdogan wasn't een in office then. Till 2010 Erdogan has very good relations with Assad and they even go to vacation together.



4.- Turkey has the most strategic geography of the world and is always in a very complex situation since WO II between US and Russia. Turkey must defend himself and can not watch how his neighbours are jumping to chaos. Libya, Iraq and Syria where Turkeys biggest export partners in the East and thanks to the US, they are all lost. Turkey is facing very big problems, and is the next target at the list of the US. Three times the NATO tried to distroy Turkey in 2 years (SU-35 incident, Coup and the killing of the Russian Ambassador) but they failed.

Putin know this, thats the reason why Erdogan apoligized to Moscow. If the US attacks Turkey (and they will, after the Syrian peace), Erdogan needs Russia.

Stop pretending to be so naive, it's sad.

1. What would happen if Syria decided to support popular Kurdish uprising against brutal Erdogan, because of his response to his soldiers getting blown up to pieces? Do i need to remind you how Kurdish cities look like now after operation is finished there by Turks? No i do not, so stop pretending that you care about civilians. Sorry, i am wrong, you just don't care about Kurdish ones.

Stop again, Turkey openly supports Islamic State, with weapons, medicine, food, fighters, logistics. There are so much evidence of Turkish weapons in IS hands, that it's not for debate at all. You also forgot to add that Turkey stole all factories equipment from Aleppo, from the people they "care" about. At least you admit that you're state has organize transport of hundreds of Uyghurs from China to Syria to kill Syrian people. There are more of them, Chechens, Uzbeks and more...

2. LOL, no country in this world has that bad of a security problem that cannot stop tens of thousands of foreign fighters traveling through its territory. This was not just CIA/MOSSAD. This was Turkish state supported project. Stop with that wall, no wall will help you if someone decide to ship thousands Kurds to your country to help their brothers to fight brutal dictator Erdogan who is attacking peceful Kurdish civilians armed with rocket launchers(sarcasam).

3.- That doesn't matter. Turkey decided to join in, now Turkey need to deal with consequences.

4. I do not know, maybe i would like to see turkey cut to pices, like Turkey did to us(with others). And like Turkey support our enemys(just like your Kurds) to steal our land. So maybe it's time for Turkey to feel the pain that they have inflicted to my country and people. i would say we would be close to even when Kurdistan become independent, and when one more part of Turkey become like our Sandzak, on a brink of breakaway. But we would still not bee even. As someone already said данак у крви/Devshirme/Devşirme is hard to forget.

I have a little understanding for Putin's moves when it comes to dealing with Turkey. But we have our interest when it come to Turkey. So we only hope that Russia will keep Turkey on tight leash when it comes to Serbian national interests. Most of all to keep them from meddling in our territorial integrity.

Sad is to see the intoxicators pretending to be right still and to keep their lies about M Zakharova.

eehnie wrote:Sad is to see the intoxicators pretending to be right still and to keep their lies about M Zakharova.

Moron, i didn't lied, i said that i do not trust her. You're the one who is lying here. Accusing me that i said something that can be interpreted as a lie.
Stop twisting my words and intoxicating this thread.

Now that's what you call a proper target

Ivan Sidorenko‏ @IvanSidorenko1 31m31 minutes ago

#Syria #Hama #SyAF has been bombarding Lataminah, Morek, Kafr zita & surroundings for the past week while #SAA reinforcements flood in


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Big_Gazza wrote:

The Ottoman wrote:Turkey supported the FSA and the Syrian National Council against Assad, thats true, because Assad smashed the very first popular uprisings in a very harsh way.

Bullshit.  The "popular" uprisings were  foreign-backed MB provocations, and were intended to ignite sectarian conflict.  Jihadi terrorists were pre-positioned within the crowds and ambushed the government police and security troops leaving dozens dead.  They also made sure to kill plenty of civilians, and the entire Saudi-dominated Muslim sphere and the US/NATO nations, acting together in orchestrated fake-outage, INSTANTLY blamed the Syrian government for the entire fiasco.  The hordes of foreign-backed terrorists then invaded from the Turkish border areas and flooded into Idlib and Aleppo, while the West and Saudi & satraps pounded the pulpit about "popular uprising".

Don't need to hear the jihadist fabrications about the cause of the Syrian conflict.  Its as fake as the BS about Libya.

Oh sure dude, Assad is an Angel, the Arabian incarnation of Jesus Christ, he even doesn't kill a fly, he is so good.

There were also small popular uprisings in Morocco and Algeria, but the government of those countries countered them very tactical with more jobs, taxcuts, lower prices for food and gasoline etc and those uprisings dissapeared.

Assad, like his father, does not like uprisings, critics or protest and smashed the locals. Like his father, Hafez, did in Hama. A very narcistic autocrat with a harsh Baatist phlisophy. Baathists are very harsh.

Ask the 3 million Syrian refugees in Turkey what happened to them. Even after the liberation of Aleppo, Palmyra etc those 3 million Syrians didn't return to their beloved Assad.

Or are all those millions of Syrians just liars/terrorists and Assad is the only speaker of the truth? Wo the fuck is he? Jon Snow? Or Aragorn?

The US and Saudi's, Always ready to crush a potential Israëli enemey, saw this and so they brought the mercs in. The Turkish deep state (Gulenists) did the rest with the transportation and logistics.

The Ottoman wrote:

Big_Gazza wrote:

The Ottoman wrote:Turkey supported the FSA and the Syrian National Council against Assad, thats true, because Assad smashed the very first popular uprisings in a very harsh way.

Bullshit.  The "popular" uprisings were  foreign-backed MB provocations, and were intended to ignite sectarian conflict.  Jihadi terrorists were pre-positioned within the crowds and ambushed the government police and security troops leaving dozens dead.  They also made sure to kill plenty of civilians, and the entire Saudi-dominated Muslim sphere and the US/NATO nations, acting together in orchestrated fake-outage, INSTANTLY blamed the Syrian government for the entire fiasco.  The hordes of foreign-backed terrorists then invaded from the Turkish border areas and flooded into Idlib and Aleppo, while the West and Saudi & satraps pounded the pulpit about "popular uprising".

Don't need to hear the jihadist fabrications about the cause of the Syrian conflict.  Its as fake as the BS about Libya.

Oh sure dude, Assad is an Angel, the Arabian incarnation of Jesus Christ, he even doesn't kill a fly, he is so good.

There were also small popular uprisings in Morocco and Algeria, but the government of those countries countered them very tactical with more jobs, taxcuts, lower prices for food and gasoline etc and those uprisings dissapeared.

Assad, like his father, does not like uprisings, critics or protest and smashed the locals. Like his father, Hafez, did in Hama. A very narcistic autocrat with a harsh Baatist phlisophy. Baathists are very harsh.

Ask the 3 million Syrian refugees in Turkey what happened to them. Even after the liberation of Aleppo, Palmyra etc those 3 million Syrians didn't return to their beloved Assad.

Or are all those millions of Syrians just liars/terrorists and Assad is the only speaker of the truth? Wo the fuck is he? Jon Snow? Or Aragorn?

The US and Saudi's, Always ready to crush a potential Israëli enemey, saw this and so they brought the mercs in. The Turkish deep state (Gulenists) did the rest with the transportation and logistics.

I have a big bucket of popcorn and a comfy chair, and I am grinning like a Cheshire cat as I watch the SAA grind your goat-raping murderers into the dusty ground. Assad is no angel, but he's fundamentally a good man and a damn sight better human being than any of the elite Ruling Class trash in the US or Euro-peon satrap fiefdoms, and light years ahead of the medieval lunatics who run the Wahabbi shitholes of the Gulf. Assad never expected to be Prez, and he was practicing as an Opthamologist in London when called up to replace his father. He is a reformed at heart, but he was stymied in his reforms by the uncompromising nature of the Sunni Islamist factions. Give these camel-fondlers an inch and they will take a mile, and then nail your head to a palm tree....

I don't give a fuck what reason the refugees have for leaving. If they are fleeing the war, then they will likely return, but if not, so what? Let the Eurotrash keep them and accept the tension such will cause. One thing is certain - Syria will have a great opportunity to CRUSH the Sunni Wahabbi influence once and for all, and they won't waste it. The aftermath isn't going to be Hama in 1982. This is going to a deep, systematic purge of Islamist extremists and terrorists and their misguided supporters. Too many secular Syrians and non-Sunni minorities have been killed by these Salafist wackjobs, and payment will be metered out. They can leave, they can rot in a prison, or they can die in the ruins. Their choice, don't care....

As for the Ziostani Chosenites, they can have the pleasure of watching Russian military become more and more embedded in Syria, and watch the SAA be rearmed into a REAL fighting force, like Hezbollah but 20x larger. The shekel-grubbers won't get to keep the Golan forever....

SeigSoloyvov wrote:
She said that over a week ago. When she said it the SAA had not crossed now they did a couple days ago but that doesn't change the fact when she claimed they crossed they did not nor does the fact they crossed ow make her right when she was wrong.

My two cents, for what its worth - I think Zakharova was right, but the crossings were special forces by boats under cover of night, ie scouting out and securing the far banks in preparation for bridging operations. No pics, cuz special forces don't like cameras in their faces     Denials from other players aren't worth the hot air expelled from their pie-holes....  Zakharova wouldn't make such a comment unless Russian brass told her to, and that makes me think her statements were deliberate psy-ops intended to sow concern and confusion among Syria's enemies.  

Could be wrong, but in truth, I don't care.  The SAA now has a bridgehead and the SDF "spearhead" has hardly moved in days and now appears to be comprised of little more than Arab tribals and mercs, whose initial rapid progress was 100% due to a lack of opposition (Daesh redeployed its available troops in their efforts to keep SAA from liberating deZ).  Looking forward to the SAA cutting East and North and both cutting off the SDF whores-of-Washington and securing the Eastern oil fields.

now, wheres my popcorn?...  munch munch munch munch...

As of 19th September crossing of the Euphrates IS REALITY. Get over that shit, guys.

The Hama offensive is over, as predicted:

BEIRUT, LEBANON (5:55 P.M.) – Syrian special forces, in support of standard Syrian Army units, have repelled a huge assault by jihadist rebels – some of them linked to Al-Qaeda – in northern Hama Governorate today.

Early this morning, jihadist militants of Ha’yat Tahrir al-Sham (Al-Qaeda affiliate) and the Turkistan Islamic Party launched a powerful offensive against the Syrian Army positions in northern Hama.

The terrorists employed battle tanks, artillery and cannon-armed gun-trucks in their attempt to break government lines near the fortress town of Ma’an, a key army defense nexus in the region.

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In the event, two particular Syrian Army elite detachments, the Al-Sahabat Regiment of the Tigers Forces and the Al-Komeet Group, were present near Ma’an.

According to reports, both formations, fighting side by side, played a critical role in rebuffing today’s jihadist onslaught at the gates of Ma’an. The two units also turned back threatening militant attacks in the area of Zaghbat Tulisiyah.

The special forces detachments repelled two separate attack waves that where launched on Ma’an by Ha’yat Tahrir al-Sham and Turkistan Islamic Party terrorists.

As of the present time, the front-lines around northern Hama have settled down with army forces and militant groups now just trading artillery fire. Whether jihadist fighters renew their assault in the hours to come is yet to be seen.

PapaDragon wrote:

Take your pick pisshead

Love it, impressed by your rapid assimilation of new words.

More on Hama over the past 10 minute. Tweets compressed.

Within Syria‏ @WithinSyriaBlog 2m2 minutes ago

SAA destroyed 1 VBIED of HTS before it reaches its target in Ma'an village northern countryside, other VBIED attacks are possible

SAA destroyed 2 tanks and 2 BMP-1 vehicles of HTS in the ongoing clashes in the northern Hama countryside so far

US-backed FSA groups Jaish al-Izzah and Jaish al-Naser are HTS main allies in the on going attack in the northern Hama countryside

According to Eyad Alhosain over 30 HTS fighters were killed around Ma'an village only

Syrian Civil War Map‏ @CivilWarMap 5m5 minutes ago

Clashes in Marrat and Mazlum villages calmed down. The Syrian Arab Army fully controls both villages now.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKGOo4fUEAEJleo.jpg

Russian top brass calls on US to not hamper Damascus’ fight against terrorism

https://twitter.com/MuradGazdiev/status/910167314397630464

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MOSCOW, September 19. /TASS/. Russian Defense Ministry Spokesman Major General Igor Konashenkov has called on the US-led international coalition and the opposition supported by it not to hamper the actions of the Syrian government forces against terrorists.
"The closer the end of the ISIS (the former name of the Islamic State, a terror organization outlawed in Russia - TASS) in Syria, the more clear it is who is really fighting with the ISIS and who has been imitating this fight for three years. So, if the US-led international coalition does not want to fight against terrorism in Syria, let it just be out of the way of those who are doing it continuously and effectively," he said.


"According to the reports that the Syrian commanders have been sending from the frontline, most serious counter-attacks and mass shelling on the Syrian troops come from the north," he said. "It is the area where units of the Syrian Democratic Forces, as well as the US special operations units, are deployed, who, according to CNN, are providing medical aid to these militants instead of participating in the operation to liberate Raqqa," Konashenkov said.
"In the past 24 hours, assault troops of the Syrian government army backed by the Russia aerospace force crossed the Euphrates and continues to expand the stronghold east of Deir ez-Zor. Despite tough resistance of Islamic State militants, an area of more than 60 square kilometers on the Euphrates left bank has been liberated," he said.
Water discharges
Water discharges from the Euphrates dams controlled by the US-backed opposition hamper the advance of Syrian government troops near Deir ez-Zor, Russian Defense Ministry Spokesman Igor Konashenkov said on Tuesday.
"Thus, the water situation on the Euphrates has deteriorated dramatically in the past 24 hours. As soon as the Syrian government troops began to cross the river, water level in the Euphrates rose within hours and the current velocity nearly doubled to two meters per second," he said.
"Since there have been no rains, the only source of such changes in the water situation is man-induced water discharge at dams upstream the Euphrates. These facilities are held by opposition groups controlled by the US-led coalition," he stressed.

More:
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What's purpose of all Jihadi offensives? It should be clear that conducting offensive operations under total enemy superiority is... counterproductive.

"SDF VOWS TO FIGHT AGAINST RUSSIANS IF IT’S NEEDED (VIDEO)."

https://southfront.org/sdf-vows-to-fight-against-russians-if-its-needed-video/


"SYRIAN ARMY FACES ISIS COUTNER-ATTACKS FROM AREA CONTROLLED BY US SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCES, SDF – RUSSIAN MOD."


https://southfront.org/syrian-army-faces-isis-coutner-attacks-area-controlled-us-special-operations-forces-sdf-russian-mod/

JohninMK wrote:#Syria #Hama #SyAF has been bombarding Lataminah, Morek, Kafr zita & surroundings for the past week while #SAA reinforcements flood in

I'm under the impression this triangle of villages is the epicenter of this war. I suspect this area (like Eastern Salamiyah countryside, Eastern Ghouta and Quineitra countryside), has been prepared long before the revolution for war. Filled with underground facilities, supplies, tunnels, weapons and so on.

Some weeks before the push against IS, towards Resafa and Sukhna, RuAF flattened the place. Now, as SAA has just crossed the Euphrates, RuAF is again leveling the very same place. I believe Russian intel sees them "moderates" trying to prepare offensives against SAA (essentially to bail IS out and buy time for SDF land-grab), so they basically stop them this way.

Worked last time.

par far wrote:"SDF VOWS TO FIGHT AGAINST RUSSIANS IF IT’S NEEDED (VIDEO)."

https://southfront.org/sdf-vows-to-fight-against-russians-if-its-needed-video/

Brian Everstine released video of U.S. F/A-18 shooting down Syrian Su-22 on 18 June, 2017, and USAF shooting down Iranian Shahed-129 drone on 20 June 2017

Tyler Rogoway‏
@Aviation_Intel

Tyler Rogoway Retweeted Brian Everstine
First video we have seen of Navy shoot down of Su-22 over Syria. Looks like it may have been taken from a Super Hornet's ATFLIR pod.

Very professional that SyAAF pilot by the way.