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    victor1985

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    Re: NATO Cruise missile attack threat to Russia

    Post  victor1985 on Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:08 pm

    Well ive said the laser would kill them instant. Think also at mount more lasers.
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    Re: NATO Cruise missile attack threat to Russia

    Post  GarryB on Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:16 am

    Lets say a laser is efficient only at close range.

    Lasers are too expensive to be efficient at any range right now.

    Then the aircraft will simply let missiles to close and will shoot.

    The only lasers used currently to stop missiles are DIRCMs systems that dazzle guidance systems... they don't actually shoot anything down as such... they are not that powerful.

    Then the aircraft will go close to ground troops that launced the missiles and shoot. Lets say a laser is efficient just at a range of maxim 3km. Well the aircraft would use this range. Or in combination whit missiles.

    The simple fact is that anything you can put in an aircraft you can put in a vehicle that is 10 times more powerful.

    Right now missiles are simply much cheaper and much more effective.

    Expensive but whit 100% chances to kill missiles, tanks or anything else.

    There is no such thing as 100% kill probability... the real world doesn't work like that.

    The effectiveness of lasers vs Tanks would be near zero... if you want a laser to burn through armour then you are wasting your time and money.

    Lasers have to concentrate their energy on one place on the target to build up energy and destroy it... a spinning missile is safe from most lasers... a tank is completely safe.

    Lets thinks also ground based lasers cant be use for atack. The ones plugged at the local electricity cant be move as aircrafts can

    Aircraft attack targets... ground based lasers plugged into the local power grid can be parked next to HQ and Comms centres and shoot down any aircraft or missile or bomb directed at it.

    Well ive said the laser would kill them instant. Think also at mount more lasers.

    Laser technology is not that mature yet... with a system able to be fitted into an F-22 you might get 5-10 shots before it is exhausted... and how are you going to aim it BTW it has no IRST.



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    Re: NATO Cruise missile attack threat to Russia

    Post  max steel on Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:29 pm

    Russia boosts air defense in face of US Prompt Global Strike capacity



    http://rt.com/news/246869-global-strike-missile-defense/
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    Re: NATO Cruise missile attack threat to Russia

    Post  GarryB on Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:40 am

    The huge irony is that the US is trying to achieve an unobtainable capability... being able to hit a target within one hour of deciding it is a threat either means it is a space based weapon that orbits the earth every 90 minutes with about 36 of these satellites offering the ability to hit anywhere on earth within the hour, or it is going to need to be earth based and more than 72 bases all over the planet because launching from the surface of the earth takes more time and more energy than falling from space...

    The sad fact is that when they achieve it they will find that Russia will have developed the same capability and a means to defeat the US model and who knows what the Chinese will have done by then...

    In other words escalation where escalation is not needed or wanted.


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    Russia boosts air defense in face of US Prompt Global Strike capacity

    Post  Werewolf on Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:21 am

    GarryB wrote:The huge irony is that the US is trying to achieve an unobtainable capability... being able to hit a target within one hour of deciding it is a threat either means it is a space based weapon that orbits the earth every 90 minutes with about 36 of these satellites offering the ability to hit anywhere on earth within the hour, or it is going to need to be earth based and more than 72 bases all over the planet because launching from the surface of the earth takes more time and more energy than falling from space...

    The sad fact is that when they achieve it they will find that Russia will have developed the same capability and a means to defeat the US model and who knows what the Chinese will have done by then...

    In other words escalation where escalation is not needed or wanted.

    For russia that would be easy to direct what kind of system the US will install, since russia is the monopoly for heavy lifting rocket engines, they could just ban RD-180 and NK-33 engines to US that would already limit their lifting capability and delay such weapon deployment, while russia wins a time to do the same with Satellite based nukes just to assure MAD.

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