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    Vitali Churkin, Russian Ambassador to UN

    Post  auslander on Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:40 pm

    Russia's ambassador to UN, Churkin, has 'died' in NYC.

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    Post  Karl Haushofer on Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:54 pm

    Timing of his death was the most convenient for the West.

    Then again, I just read that he has suffered from heart problems.
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    Re: Vitali Churkin, Russian Ambassador to UN

    Post  ultimatewarrior on Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:02 pm

    Obviously Trump ordered CIA to assassinate him. Trump is a snake who pretends to be Russia's friend.

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    Re: Vitali Churkin, Russian Ambassador to UN

    Post  Azi on Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:05 pm

    RIP he was a great diplomat!

    ultimatewarrior wrote:Obviously Trump ordered CIA to assassinate him. Trump is a snake who pretends to be Russia's friend.

    Bullshit! Suspect

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    Re: Vitali Churkin, Russian Ambassador to UN

    Post  Nikander on Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:04 am

    This is not the first diplomat who died "suddenly", it is the fourth one plus Karlov who was murdered openly and who was the first one to die. After Russia didn't get the message they started taking them out in this way and it will continue until Russia responds in some way. By not responding Putin is putting in danger life of every Russian diplomat and their families!
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    Re: Vitali Churkin, Russian Ambassador to UN

    Post  kvs on Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:06 am

    May he rest in peace.

    While I cannot a priori dismiss this being some petty US tantrum assassination (faking heart attacks is dead easy and it is very
    hard to determine the cause afterwards), the age range around 65 is associated with a very high heart disease mortality. Churkin
    was working a very stressful job, which would have substantially worsened his risk of death from heart disease since it is more than
    likely he had a genetic/family history of this disease. BTW, one of the reasons for the collapse of the average male age to 58 years
    during the early 1990s in Russia is the prevalence of heart disease and type II diabetes in Russia. North American aboriginals also
    have high incidence of this metabological syndrome.

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    Re: Vitali Churkin, Russian Ambassador to UN

    Post  Karl Haushofer on Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:33 am

    Nikander wrote:and it will continue until  Russia responds in some way.
    Russia didn't respond when USA sank Kursk.

    Russia didn't respond when the Americans aided Chechen terrorists.

    Russia didn't respond when Turkey shoot down a Russian jet.

    Russia didn't respond when NATO flooded Russia with Afghan heroin.

    Russia is not going to respond in the future either.

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    Post  Nikander on Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:35 am

    Five dead diplomats in a span of couple of months must be a record, something that never happened to anyone and what a coincidence: it's happening to Russia. Let's remember that the founder of Russia today also "suddenly" died. It's a massage, you either get the massage or you don't. Putin didn't get it, he chose to ignore it and because of it this time they went for the big fish, so let's see will he stay passive and risk "sudden" death of Lavrov next time or will he fight back.

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    Post  Karl Haushofer on Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:40 am

    Nikander wrote: so let's see will he stay passive and risk "sudden" death of Lavrov next time or will he fight back.
    How is Putin supposed to "fight back"? Assassinations of foreign diplomats is not how Russia works. So even if Russian diplomats are being routinely assassinated Russia cannot respond in a similar fashion.

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    Re: Vitali Churkin, Russian Ambassador to UN

    Post  Nikander on Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:47 am

    Karl Haushofer wrote:
    Nikander wrote:and it will continue until  Russia responds in some way.
    Russia didn't respond when USA sank Kursk.

    Russia didn't respond when the Americans aided Chechen terrorists.

    Russia didn't respond when Turkey shoot down a Russian jet.

    Russia didn't respond when NATO flooded Russia with Afghan heroin.

    Russia is not going to respond in the future either.

    In the Putin era Russia did respond but he was late a lot of times, like in this case where people are dying because he didn't respond immediately. If he did Churkin would still be alive.
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    Re: Vitali Churkin, Russian Ambassador to UN

    Post  GarryB on Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:38 am

    Russia didn't respond when USA sank Kursk.

    Except the Americans didn't sink the Kursk.

    If you are thinking collision then you are suggesting a motorbike hitting a truck will destroy the truck and the motorbike will return home with a small dent...

    Russia didn't respond when the Americans aided Chechen terrorists.

    Russia helped the Vietnamese and the Koreans too.


    Russia didn't respond when Turkey shoot down a Russian jet.

    Actually Russia did respond and the result was a Turkey that is now cooperating with Russia in the region in a way that simply shooting down a Turkish aircraft could never have achieved.


    Russia didn't respond when NATO flooded Russia with Afghan heroin.

    Russians get drugs no matter the source... whether they come from the south or the east or the west does not really matter. The money made helped to kill some Americans in Afghanistan so the US paid for that already.

    Russia is not going to respond in the future either.

    Putin actually thinks about how to respond to things unlike a 12 year old... like the US. for example... Saudis and Pakistanis fly planes into various things in their country and almost kill 3,000 people and the US responds by invading Iraq and Afghanistan... two countries that had almost nothing to do with 11/9... and where was Osama Bin Laden? Pakistan.

    The west is a joke.


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    Re: Vitali Churkin, Russian Ambassador to UN

    Post  Azi on Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:47 am

    Nikander wrote:Five dead diplomats in a span of  couple of months must be a record, something that never happened to anyone and what a coincidence: it's happening to Russia. Let's remember that the founder of Russia today also "suddenly" died. It's a massage, you either get the massage or you don't. Putin didn't get it, he chose to ignore it and because of it this time they went for the big fish, so let's see will he stay passive and risk "sudden" death of Lavrov next time or will he fight back.
    Not the person is important, the duty is important! You can't destroy a modern society like Russia with assasination!
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    Re: Vitali Churkin, Russian Ambassador to UN

    Post  JohninMK on Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:43 am

    Posted in utter disbelief if true.

    Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - 13:03

    Ukraine has blocked adoption of the UN Security Council Chairman's statement devoted to the Russian Federation's Permanent Representative Vitaly Churkin who had died the day before, the Russian Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Maria Zakharova wrote on her Facebook page.

    "Ukraine blocked the adoption of the statement of the UN Security Council's Chairman devoted to V. Churkin. That's the point of the current Ukrainian 'power': can do nothing good, only spoil everything around, including at their own cost," Zakharova wrote.

    The UN Secretary General António Guterres expressed condolences in connection with the death of the Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation Vitaly Churkin, noted the valuable opportunity to have had an experience of working with him.

    The permanent representative of Ukraine to the United Nations Vladimir Yelchenko stated that Vitaly Churkin, who had suddenly died in New York, "was expressing his state's position" as the Permanent Representative of Russia to the UN.

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    Re: Vitali Churkin, Russian Ambassador to UN

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:57 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Posted in utter disbelief if true.

    Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - 13:03

    Ukraine has blocked adoption of the UN Security Council Chairman's statement devoted to the Russian Federation's Permanent Representative Vitaly Churkin who had died the day before, the Russian Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Maria Zakharova wrote on her Facebook page.

    "Ukraine blocked the adoption of the statement of the UN Security Council's Chairman devoted to V. Churkin. That's the point of the current Ukrainian 'power': can do nothing good, only spoil everything around, including at their own cost," Zakharova wrote.
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    Stay classy ukrops....

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    Also, tone down conspiracy stuff guys.
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    Re: Vitali Churkin, Russian Ambassador to UN

    Post  Regular on Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:21 pm

    Ukraine- when You think they can't lower than that. You like the man or not, but at this level You have to show respect even to Your enemy.
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    Re: Vitali Churkin, Russian Ambassador to UN

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:11 pm

    kvs wrote:May he rest in peace.

    While I cannot a priori dismiss this being some petty US tantrum assassination (faking heart attacks is dead easy and it is very
    hard to determine the cause afterwards), the age range around 65 is associated with a very high heart disease mortality.

    All the more reason for the Western garbage to do it to cover their tracks. IDK about stress. Churkin had long abandoned negotiating with the western "partners" so his stress could not have been at a breaking point. What's so stressful about arguing with Samantha Powers? She's just a retarded cunt that's dead easy to discredit and can't further influence UN decisions since the EU is just a Western puppet organization. Outside of the SC, Russia should just ignore participating in the UN, since the West and the jews will always have their way in it.
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    Re: Vitali Churkin, Russian Ambassador to UN

    Post  Godric on Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:14 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Posted in utter disbelief if true.

    Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - 13:03

    Ukraine has blocked adoption of the UN Security Council Chairman's statement devoted to the Russian Federation's Permanent Representative Vitaly Churkin who had died the day before, the Russian Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Maria Zakharova wrote on her Facebook page.

    "Ukraine blocked the adoption of the statement of the UN Security Council's Chairman devoted to V. Churkin. That's the point of the current Ukrainian 'power': can do nothing good, only spoil everything around, including at their own cost," Zakharova wrote.
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    Stay classy ukrops....

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    Also, tone down conspiracy stuff guys.

    here in lies the problem the Banderists have never been described as classy ... they are just proving the point that they are sewer dwelling rats
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    Re: Vitali Churkin, Russian Ambassador to UN

    Post  kvs on Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:44 am

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:
    kvs wrote:May he rest in peace.

    While I cannot a priori dismiss this being some petty US tantrum assassination (faking heart attacks is dead easy and it is very
    hard to determine the cause afterwards), the age range around 65 is associated with a very high heart disease mortality.  

    All the more reason for the Western garbage to do it to cover their tracks. IDK about stress. Churkin had long abandoned negotiating with the western "partners" so his stress could not have been at a breaking point. What's so stressful about arguing with Samantha Powers? She's just a retarded cunt that's dead easy to discredit and can't further influence UN decisions since the EU is just a Western puppet organization. Outside of the SC, Russia should just ignore participating in the UN, since the West and the jews will always have their way in it.

    The stress is involuntary. Only psychopaths have the "right" brain wiring not to feel stress. Normal people will experience cortisol increases
    regardless of how unimportant something is. Churkin had a sedentary job arguing with clowns and bureaucrats. Even if he enjoyed some of
    it, those endorphines were not enough to stop the effect of cortisol on the metabolism. If he was living as some backwoods hunter in Siberia
    he would still be alive as long as he wasn't guzzling a bottle of vodka or moonshine every day.
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    Re: Vitali Churkin, Russian Ambassador to UN

    Post  A Different Voice on Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:09 am

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:
    kvs wrote:May he rest in peace.

    While I cannot a priori dismiss this being some petty US tantrum assassination (faking heart attacks is dead easy and it is very
    hard to determine the cause afterwards), the age range around 65 is associated with a very high heart disease mortality.  

    All the more reason for the Western garbage to do it to cover their tracks. IDK about stress. Churkin had long abandoned negotiating with the western "partners" so his stress could not have been at a breaking point. What's so stressful about arguing with Samantha Powers? She's just a retarded cunt that's dead easy to discredit and can't further influence UN decisions since the EU is just a Western puppet organization. Outside of the SC, Russia should just ignore participating in the UN, since the West and the jews will always have their way in it.
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    Not sure whay you mean by "jews."



    If by "jews" you mean Israel, I would say that Russia and Israel now share an ever increasing amount of common interests. Russia and Israel are friendly nations and they are growing closer together.

    If by "jews" you mean all people of a certain religion who you think secretly conspire to control the world for their own evil purposes, then I would say you should try to meet and get to know more jews. I think you would find they are not so bad; that they are more the same than different from you. You might even like some of them.

    As to the main point of this thread, I guess I do not understand why the US would murder Churkin. The US's risk/reward calculation would seem to rule it out. Murdering him would provide a very limited benefit to the US and would come with substantial risk.

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    Re: Vitali Churkin, Russian Ambassador to UN

    Post  par far on Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:41 pm

    RIP Vitali Churkin. A brave man, the only one to ask "I would like to ask the honorable US representative, have you found any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, or are you still looking?"

    This sudden is death, is not sudden, it is a assassination.

    RIP Sir.


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    Re: Vitali Churkin, Russian Ambassador to UN

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:22 am

    RIP.
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    Re: Vitali Churkin, Russian Ambassador to UN

    Post  AlfaT8 on Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:32 pm

    Lost another one.

    RIP

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