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The_Observer wrote:Russia to lay down 6 vessels on Victory day.
2 955A Borei-class subs
2 Improved Kilos
2 20380 Corvettes
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https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/11250123
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Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Numbers Rodion_Romanovic Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:30 pm
it would have been nice to hear also 2 additional 22350 frigates, but probably Severnaya veef has no additional capabilities and they have not yet assigned another shipyard to take some of the frigates buildingThe_Observer wrote:Russia to lay down 6 vessels on Victory day.
2 955A Borei-class subs
2 Improved Kilos
2 20380 Corvettes
Russian shipbuilders will mark Victory Day by laying down six ships and submarines. This was reported to TASS by a source in the shipbuilding industry.
“In early May, two Project 955A Borey-A nuclear-powered submarine missile cruisers, two Project 20380 corvettes, and two Project 636.3 submarines will be laid down,” he said.
According to the interlocutor of the agency, two strategic submarines will be laid down at Sevmash, two corvettes at the Amur shipyard, two submarines of the Varshavyanka project at the Admiralty Shipyards (all enterprises are part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation).
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/11250123
Rodion_Romanovic wrote:......
it would have been nice to hear also 2 additional 22350 frigates, but probably Severnaya veef has no additional capabilities and they have not yet assigned another shipyard to take some of the frigates building
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Tsavo Lion wrote:New Turkish-Built Dry Dock Will Not Solve Russia’s Deeper Shipbuilding Problems
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Tsavo Lion wrote:what if those links r relevant on several treads? is it OK to post a tread link on a tread?
Tsavo Lion wrote:Icebreakers r dual use & also "civilian"- w/o them being repaired & built, merchant traffic of civilian ships is impossible all year round on the NSR.
By the same token, some1 from the Jamestown Foundation & elsewhere reading some posts here may regard them as not worthy their bandwidth.
U r entitled to ur opinion & I'm entitled to mine- no need to repeat the same position ad nauseum.
By the same token, some1 from the Jamestown Foundation & elsewhere reading some posts here may regard them as not worthy their bandwidth.
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George1 wrote:Russian shipbuilders to lay keel of six warships and submarines on August 9-10 — source
The shipyards of Russia’s United Shipbuilding Corporation will lay down six warships and submarines on August 9-10, a source in the domestic shipbuilding industry told TASS on Friday.
2x Project 955A Borei-A-class strategic missile subnarines, at the Sevmash Shipyard
2x Project 20380 corvettes at the Amur Shipbuilding Plant in the Russian Far East
2x Project 636.3 submarines at the Admiralty Shipyard in St. Petersburg
The Sevmash Shipyard will lay the keel of the strategic nuclear-powered underwater cruisers Dmitry Donskoi and Knyaz Potyomkin, the Admiralty Shipyard will lay down the submarines Mozhaisk and Yakutsk (the fifth and sixth subs in a series of six Project 636.3 diesel-electric submarines for the Russian Pacific Fleet) while the corvettes that will be laid down at the Amur Shipbuilding Plant have been named the Grozny and Buiniy
https://tass.com/defense/1321251
LMFS wrote:Yes, they were delayed some days
PapaDragon wrote:No news of any Gorshkovs this year?
LMFS wrote:PapaDragon wrote:No news of any Gorshkovs this year?
I haven't read anything, they seem to be deciding what to do. They have the 22350M above and the improved 20380/20385 below. The logical thing would be to produce basically all of them (or maybe unify the 20380 and 20385), but I don't know if stopping the 22350 makes sense. Maybe they see the 20380/85 capable enough in the near sea zone and the 22350 too small to operate confidently at a global scale, who knows.
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Isos wrote:...22350 can operate confidently far away but never alone. No frigate neither destroyer or cruiser actually can be safe alone far away from home waters. 22350 is meant to be build in big numbers contrary to potential cruisers.
Not building frigates because you have good corvettes and some fanart design of mighty 300m cruisers is stupid.
Isos wrote:LMFS wrote:PapaDragon wrote:No news of any Gorshkovs this year?
I haven't read anything, they seem to be deciding what to do. They have the 22350M above and the improved 20380/20385 below. The logical thing would be to produce basically all of them (or maybe unify the 20380 and 20385), but I don't know if stopping the 22350 makes sense. Maybe they see the 20380/85 capable enough in the near sea zone and the 22350 too small to operate confidently at a global scale, who knows.
Aren't the shipyards full which is why no new order have been issued yet (and the fact that they may come with a new design by then) ?
22350 can operate confidently far away but never alone. No frigate neither destroyer or cruiser actually can be safe alone far away from home waters. 22350 is meant to be build in big numbers contrary to potential cruisers.
Not building frigates because you have good corvettes and some fanart design of mighty 300m cruisers is stupid.
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The Kerch-based Zaliv Shipyard, which constructs the newest Project 23900 landing helicopter dock (LHD), will be upgraded, Ak Bars Shipbuilding Corporation Director General Renat Mistakhov told the TASS news agency.
“[We have designed] a roadmap, which covers all aspects of the shipyard manufacturing facilities’ reparation for modernization. [We have drafted] a list of equipment required for the upgrade of the enterprise and its capacities to maintain timely implementation of orders.”
Ak Bars Shipbuilding Corporation Director General Renat Mistakhov
According to him, the steel-cutting capabilities of the shipyards will be dramatically reinforced, once the modernization processes are finished.
“[The shipyard’s] plan for 2020-2027 with short-, medium-, and long-term works has been shaped.”
Ak Bars Shipbuilding Corporation Director General Renat Mistakhov
Production facilities of Shipyard «Zaliv» include:
- a graving dock, providing for construction of vessels up to 340 m long, 54 m beam and launching weight up to 50000 t;
- two horizontal building berths, 400 m long each, providing for construction of vessels up to 120 m long, 22 m
beam and launching weight up to 2500 t for launching by a side launch;- two deep water outfitting quays, 278 m and 240 m long respectively with two cranes 32 t capacity and one crane 50 t capacity;
- a quay, 186 m long for unloading of metal with a crane, 80 t capacity;
- all facilities, necessary for ships construction and repair;
- warehouses to store materials, equipment and fuels; a port, providing for handling of general cargoes and a customs entry point for ships;
bonded warehouse and point of inspection for trucks transporting goods from abroad.
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Overtaking Europe
The loading of Russian military shipbuilding has now reached a higher level than that of all European shipyards combined
- says the publication.
As explained, 5 nuclear submarines (1 Astute and 4 Suffren), 4 conventional submarines (A26 and S81), 1 helicopter carrier Trieste, 12 frigates (types T26, FREMM, PPA) and 5 corvettes are being built in Europe at the same time. In the meantime, Russia is creating 5 nuclear submarines "Borey-A" and "Yasen-M", 5 diesel-electric submarines 636.6, 2 BDK and UDC, 6 frigates "Admiral Gorshkov", 10 corvettes 20380/5/6, 3 light corvettes [MRK ] "Buyan-M", 8 light corvettes [MRK] "Karakurt" and 3 minesweepers "Alexandrite".
In other words, for the first time in 30 years, Russian military shipbuilding surpasses all of Europe
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owais.usmani wrote:https://en.topwar.ru/186631-rossijskoe-voennoe-sudostroenie-prevoshodit-vsju-evropu-francuzskaja-pressa-o-vozrozhdenii-vmf-rf.html
Overtaking Europe
The loading of Russian military shipbuilding has now reached a higher level than that of all European shipyards combined
- says the publication.
As explained, 5 nuclear submarines (1 Astute and 4 Suffren), 4 conventional submarines (A26 and S81), 1 helicopter carrier Trieste, 12 frigates (types T26, FREMM, PPA) and 5 corvettes are being built in Europe at the same time. In the meantime, Russia is creating 5 nuclear submarines "Borey-A" and "Yasen-M", 5 diesel-electric submarines 636.6, 2 BDK and UDC, 6 frigates "Admiral Gorshkov", 10 corvettes 20380/5/6, 3 light corvettes [MRK ] "Buyan-M", 8 light corvettes [MRK] "Karakurt" and 3 minesweepers "Alexandrite".
In other words, for the first time in 30 years, Russian military shipbuilding surpasses all of Europe
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marcellogo wrote:
Glad to hear this but you have to consider how a lot of europeans building programs are already concluded or near to it while many new ones are still to be started or are at their infancy.
Impressive however that the biggest EU country, Germany is actually producing nothing.
UK and France as usual throw their own money on status only vessels and neglect the surface fleet and just Italy has get to be on a roll of continue naval production.
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