I don’t know what parameters this study uses. I’m pretty much every single exercise held by the Americans the f35 slaughters all 4th gen fighters in BVR and its odds at WVR aren’t bad either because it carries the advanced aimx9 which has a much better IIR seeker than r37
Yeah, but western fighters are not intended or designed to fight stealth aircraft, which has been a bit of a focus for Russian fighters from most of the last 40 odd years...
Russian fighters also operate within an IADS that is incomparably better than the HATO system, which is air based and centred around AWACS platforms that would be terribly vulnerable.
The AIM-9X was described as a Hittile by its makers but what has its actual performance in combat been... it missed a Syrian Su-22 recently...
I assume you meant R-73 and not R-37, but kinematically the thrust vectoring engine of the R-73 makes it a rather more capable missile while the seeker is not an imaging seeker it still seems to be rather good.
The f35 will detect the su35 from 200-300km out and most likely will remain undetected itself with its AESA. It will use that advantage to position it self for a high probability BVR shot while keep itself out of the SU35s radar field of view.
To detect the Su-35 at any range it would have to use its radar which gives away its own location and presence. The L band AESA radar on the wings of the Su-35 should detect the F-35 at extended ranges...
And SU35 has to know to look for targets the size of 0.01m2. This about the size of a bird and there is a good chance the radar will filter it as noise. That’s one of the benefits of stealth.
You do know the filters used on radars are not random, and with there being few birds at 10,000m flying at 800km per hour most Russian radars rather than dismissing it as noise will actually highlight it as something worth investigating...
In exercises that Americans do majority of the time f15,f16, and f/a18 never detect the f35 and just get a call on the radio saying they are dead.
Sounds like they will be in the shit when they face Su-57s then.
Conversely the IADS the Russian planes operate within as well as their new fighter aircraft are all equipped to look for and engage stealth threats, and their self defence equipment optimised to deal with US missiles and radar.
The evidence is that Chinese guy i quoted and you said yourself that the IRST on the su30 was bad and during the Cold War their IRST for the flankers and mig29s and mig23 was so bad it was useless and the Americans laughed at it when they tested East German equipment. You are claiming a huge generational leap of performance in the su35.
The Chinese guy likely had experience with the export version of the IRST on the Su-30, just like the German model MiG-29 had an IRST inferior to the IRST on the MiG-23 in Soviet service of the time... I would therefore suggest that the IRST used on current fighters could easily be described as being a generational leap... possibly two.
And how many of those does Russia have ready for all its su35s and su30s in case of war? My guess majority of the planes will still be carrying r73.
That is fine... Su-22 exported aircraft have flares that defeat AIM-9X... we have seen the evidence... the flares on the German MiG-29s proved very effective against the Sidewinders of that period too... so not a great surprise... how well will western defence measures perform against R-73s... a bit of an unknown really.
It still doesn’t give Russia and kind of serious advantage over the f35 in WVR.
The fact that the F-35 gets beaten in WVR combat by western aircraft suggests it would struggle against Russian planes.
All Russian planes have helmet mounted sights and IRSTs and both radar and IR guided BVR missiles as well as IR WVR missiles suggests they would kick their arses.
If the F-35 was all that why are they spending 150 million per plane on new production F-15s?
Both planes have a high change of killing each other in a dogfight. But f35 has the look first and BVR advantage.
Not even close to being proven.
As well as the networking and sensor fusion.
The Russian IADS network is rather more comprehensive and complete than the US one, and Soviet planes had IRST, Radar, and Helmet mounted cueing systems for the last 40 years.
Now the r33 did have less sophisticated radars than the american phoenix but the radar power and scanning speed (with the same semi active/active modes) of the r37m as well as its ability to take greater gforces proves that your claims are wrong.
The ZASLON PESA was constantly underestimated in the west... till they introduced AESA radar into widespread use and then electronically scanned radar in fighters was everything... funny how that worked.
Those exercises are fake news
It is very easy to set the parameters of an exercise to ensure a specific result is achieved every time, which makes them as you say... fake news.
Also whats an IIR seeker and why did the Russian's allegedly choose not to put one on the R-74?
An IIR seeker is a thermal imager. You get a photo or video like image of the target instead of a heat pattern signal.
On paper it is supposed to render flares useless so the only defence would be DIRCMS... laser jammers... but in the real world it failed miserably against a very old generation aircraft... Su-22 of the Syrian air force.
The F-117 had its bombay doors open and the F-117 wasn't continuously tracked further than 100km away
The bomb bay doors on the F-117 open and close very quickly and it does not spend a lot of time with the doors open so the idea that the F-117 had its bomb bay doors open long enough for a ground based radar to detect it and point a missile at it... wait for it to get within missile range and then fire on it and for the missile to lock and track and fly on up and hit the aircraft is just absurd.... B17s didn't leave their bomb bay doors open that long.
It is easy to attack my Serbia, which before the NATO aggression was under severe sanctions or from 1991 to 1999.
There was little chance Serbia could defeat all of HATO, and it is to your credit that you made them look like fools and showed that using the equipment you had skillfully that a massacre by the worlds last superpower is not the only possible outcome of conflict with them.
Some people claim it was a fluke... just pure luck... that you were firing SAMs like Grad rockets and one luckily connected, but even just thinking about it for a few moments... if the plane really was invisible then there would be zero chance of a hit... imagine trying to get a blind man to shoot a bus without knowing the bus route... the bus timetable... or the current time... the odds of a hit on a bus would be absurd.
Taurus, you write about that F-35 plane as if it was made by God himself and as if there is no other weapon system that is far more destructive than the F-35.
A little ironic you say that... I would love to see every HATO member operating dozens or hundreds of F-35s.... that alone would bankrupt the block and mean there is little money for anything else...
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