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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  ultron on Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:53 am

    Insurgents put on a big show of force near Damascus with a big tank exercise.


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  zg18 on Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:58 am

    ultron wrote:Insurgents put on a big show of force near Damascus with a big tank exercise.


    Big tank force? Several tanks in TBH well made video.

    Cyberspec wrote:Inside the besieged Deir e-Zor (Kweiris) airbase with Republican Guard Paras

    Thanks for posting thumbsup

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  Kyo on Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:07 am

    Obama vetoes NDAA over Gitmo, budget workaround https://www.rt.com/usa/319432-obama-vetoes-ndaa-gitmo/
    That's my Peace Nobel Prize winner's showoff for media sake! He's in a Zugzwang position right now.


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  par far on Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:07 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Bring it on Qatar, we can bring Debaltsevo to Yemen and Bahrain if you like Twisted Evil :

    Qatar Threatens Military Intervention in Syria


    Qatar cannot do shit, won't shit, they just want attention.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  Cyberspec on Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:27 am

    ultron wrote:Insurgents put on a big show of force near Damascus with a big tank exercise.

    That's PR archival footage from who knows where....must be from the capture of some SAA base

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:29 am

    Are there defections from rebel militias to SAA?

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  zg18 on Fri Oct 23, 2015 7:45 am



    October 21-22nd advances in south-western Aleppo front

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:01 am

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:Much has been said about supposed SAA incompetence with dealing with ATGM, but I'm personally taking these claims with a grain of salt as jihadi propaganda. Firstly if the SAA never learned combined arms urban operations it would'nt still be able to hold out with a armor significant advantage to the jihadis, much less make so many advances. It's simply not logical. Anti-antitank infantry tactics exist since WW2 and are basic standard military training knowledge so it's very hard to imagine that SAA forces haven't adopted them in any way.

    Most videos also clearly show syrian tanks taking proper cover and being supported by infantry while there are almost no videos of syrian armor bieng destroyed in significant quantity, and those that exist are either liver eater propaganda clips or recycled footage from the beginning of the war.

    As long as the enmy has AT weapons vehicle losses are inevitable but it doesn't mean the army isn't taking measures.

    This again. I'm going to rant again and this isn't against you, just to make sure how an ATGM team works in what is for most part still a low intensity conflict use of the ATGM systems in Syria.

    Almost all videos that you can see in Syria with ATGM's are breach of perimetre problems. Most of the tanks, AFV's, Trucks, Dozers, SPG's etc are destroyed whil standing, there's little use of ATGM on rolling vehicles, this doesn't mean the proefficiency is low, just that the teams pick up standing vehicles off guard, usually in defensive positions or operational pause. This was painfully evident in Northern Hama offensive, where the SAA units moved head on, cleared some km's then in front of light resistance reached their operational hold lines. Once they were on hold, then the ATGM teams stroke. At least 4 out of the 7 tanks targeted the 8 october were hit while standing on their hold lines. 3 BMP's as well. One tank was attacked while rolling, another was missed.

    All these muster that the observation assets or teams of those units engaged were limited or they lacked experience with the terrain. This is not new. But again the worst part is that the ATGM teams aren't even trying to hide. Many of them are on rooftops, behind outlined areas, usually 2.5 to 3 km from their targets, out of human visual range. They usually distribute TOW munitions on staging areas and travel with the launchers on
    technicals or minivans. There's something you can do about those TOW teams that is simply going to the map with TOW attacks and looking where exactly they strike to limit a strike area. That area you probe by drones as a preventative action, you don't even need to catch them in the act, you just need to look for vehicles that travel around the area and see if you can spot them from another strike area. With pattern studies alone some TOW teams should have been taken to hell.

    On the counter-action there are also many steps the Syrians haven't taken. Portable Radars, CBR's, artillery preparation, topography preparation etc can help you spot, track and engage ATGM teams with relative success. All this isn't simple but can become, if you study fiilm. The way Rebels operate with Tows is very primitive. Very. Even ISIS is better at employing, and part of it is due to the size of the TOW system. You need more room and are less able to conceal yourself.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:03 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Bring it on Qatar, we can bring Debaltsevo to Yemen and Bahrain if you like Twisted Evil :

    Qatar Threatens Military Intervention in Syria

    Those guys threaten to choke themselves to death? Did they forget what happened they harboured Shishani whore in their premises?

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:04 am

    Cyberspec wrote:South Aleppo countryside



    Same area - These guys look like IRGC

    Half/Half Some are Quds others are Hizb.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:09 am

    zg18 wrote:

    I like where this is going....

    Yeah, I still think they should Eid all living beings on Al Hadhir area. It's just a sore thumb and would create a counter fire to the pushbacks that may happen. Just do it. FFS.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  par far on Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:35 am

    George1 wrote:Islamic State redeploying reinforcement from Iraq to Syria — Russian Defense Ministry

    Reinforcements are also redeployed from Syria's Raqqa province to the country's western regions

    MOSCOW, October 22 /TASS/. The Islamic State leaders are redeploying reinforcement units from Syria’s Raqqa province and Iraq’s territory to western Syria, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said on Thursday.

    "Our unmanned aerial vehicles are fixing a considerable increase in the number of new IS targets in Syrian territory. The IS leadership is redeploying personnel reinforcement from Raqqa province and Iraq’s territory to the area of military hostilities in the west of Syria," Konashenkov said in an interview on Rossiya 1 television channel.

    Russia started a military operation against the Islamic State terrorist group (which is banned in Russia) in the Syrian territory at the request of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad on September 30. The air group in Syria includes more than 50 warplanes, including Su-34 and Su-24M bombers; Su-25 assault aircraft; Su-30SM fighter jets as well as Mi-8 and Mi-24 helicopters. The Russian Navy is also involved in the military operation. The warships of the Russian Caspian flotilla delivered a massive cruise missile strike from the Kalibr-class sea-based missile system on the night to October 7.

    The Russian authorities have totally excluded a possibility of any ground campaign in Syria.


    These bastards are leaving Raqqa because the US is going start bombing it, with Russia bombing the isis terriosts, the US has to do something, so these assholes are trying to take Raqqa.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:05 am

    par far wrote:
    George1 wrote:Islamic State redeploying reinforcement from Iraq to Syria — Russian Defense Ministry

    Reinforcements are also redeployed from Syria's Raqqa province to the country's western regions

    MOSCOW, October 22 /TASS/. The Islamic State leaders are redeploying reinforcement units from Syria’s Raqqa province and Iraq’s territory to western Syria, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said on Thursday.

    "Our unmanned aerial vehicles are fixing a considerable increase in the number of new IS targets in Syrian territory. The IS leadership is redeploying personnel reinforcement from Raqqa province and Iraq’s territory to the area of military hostilities in the west of Syria," Konashenkov said in an interview on Rossiya 1 television channel.

    Russia started a military operation against the Islamic State terrorist group (which is banned in Russia) in the Syrian territory at the request of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad on September 30. The air group in Syria includes more than 50 warplanes, including Su-34 and Su-24M bombers; Su-25 assault aircraft; Su-30SM fighter jets as well as Mi-8 and Mi-24 helicopters. The Russian Navy is also involved in the military operation. The warships of the Russian Caspian flotilla delivered a massive cruise missile strike from the Kalibr-class sea-based missile system on the night to October 7.

    The Russian authorities have totally excluded a possibility of any ground campaign in Syria.


    These bastards are leaving Raqqa because the US is going start bombing it, with Russia bombing the isis terriosts, the US has to do something, so these assholes are trying to take Raqqa.

    The US isn't going to "take" Raqqah, it's trying to tie down the Kurds so they don't seal the Turkish border. It's stupid and a goodwill gesture to Turkey, by fighting against ISIS to the last Kurd. What happens when Kurds start losing hundreds of people in street fighting? They try to retreat and there those "western ISIS assets" get out of nowhere mowing them down.

    Russia has a good trump card here for the Kurds. It can save them A lot of Pain, and can save the day , but first it needs to let ISIS do its magic on the FSA, once both forces start fighting each other, you bomb the shit out of them.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  Cyberspec on Fri Oct 23, 2015 11:42 am

    There've been some reports about ongoing talks with the Syrian Kurds about opening a diplomatic mission in Moscow.....that would drive the Turks crazy I think

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:21 pm

    Cyberspec wrote:South Aleppo countryside

    ... These guys look like IRGC

    Checked with Persian speaking people; they are speaking Persian in this clip.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  Cyberspec on Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:26 pm

    Morpheus wrote:Checked with Persian speaking people; they are speaking Persian in this clip.

    Thought so and Kotemore thinks so as well....Thanks for checking

    ---

    Some interesting claims in article below....the journo is pro Syrian and usually a reliable source

    What Putin and Assad discussed during their meeting in Moscow?

    Russia will strike any regional country supplying Syrian rebels with MANPADs that can hit its jets

    https://elijahjm.wordpress.com/2015/10/23/what-putin-and-assad-discussed-during-their-meeting-in-moscow/

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  Khepesh on Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:38 pm

    This large post by Rozhin on the Syria situation is very informative, particulary the many maps. http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2443879.html He, like other commentators, now begin to be cautious of a quick, or relatively quick, end to this as SAA may not be strong enough at this time. He also says that flights of combat aircraft from Sevastopol have increased in recent days to the level of just before VKS suddenly arrived in Syria and thinks there will be a reinforcement, which should not be a surprise I think.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  Monarchist on Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:20 pm

    15 iranians killed yesterday including Ahmadinejad former bodyguard, all these so called "successfull offensives" are taking the toll on SAA, iranians, Hezbollah, iraqi shia's yet the Kremlin propaganda machine is in full swing, without any major gains too show about so far.


    https://mobile.twitter.com/Hassanvand/status/657492378861871104/photo/1

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  Fred333 on Fri Oct 23, 2015 11:05 pm

    Monarchist wrote:15 iranians killed yesterday including Ahmadinejad former bodyguard, all these so called "successfull offensives" are taking the toll on SAA, iranians, Hezbollah, iraqi shia's yet the Kremlin propaganda machine is in full swing, without any major gains too show about so far.


    https://mobile.twitter.com/Hassanvand/status/657492378861871104/photo/1

    Well, I don't think that anyone expected 30+ aircraft would enable some kind of blitzkrieg on the part of the SAA, especially after so many years of attritional warfare. Main point is that there has to be a creation of momentum in the opposite direction, get the frontlines away from the Alewite heartlands and keep the house of cards standing long enough until Iraqi forces came somehow link up and "volunteer" to push ISIS (at least this is what I think the masterplan is, Russia is already bombing in Iraq on behalf of Iraqi government) and all the other wahhabi filth between them and what's left of the Syrian forces + Hezzies and Iranians. This will not be a short war, but a war of perseverance and grinding away.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Oct 23, 2015 11:51 pm



    Sarin gas delivered to Al-Nusra from Turkey

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  Werewolf on Fri Oct 23, 2015 11:52 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:

    Sarin gas delivered to Al-Nusra from Turkey

    Was already known for whole year.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  Kyo on Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:00 am

    Werewolf wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:

    Sarin gas delivered to Al-Nusra from Turkey

    Was already known for whole year.
    Must be Erdogan's fart gas shipments by now.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  Solncepek on Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:17 am

    1.SAA, Hezbollah, NDF units liberated Hwayiez, Qarrassi, Hmayrah villages southern of Aleppo a few hours ago...

    2. Somewhere close to Kwaires:


    3.Iranian media confirms Abdullah Bagheri, a former bodyguard of Ahmadinejad died in Aleppo

    4.SAA inside Kuweires airport stopped a huge attack by ISIS. No breaking through the defence line.

    5.Report cites IRGC spokesman as saying 8 Iranian troops killed in Syria in recent hours, including 2 IRGC


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    Post  d_taddei2 on Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:04 am

    Monarchist wrote:15 iranians killed yesterday including Ahmadinejad former bodyguard, all these so called "successfull offensives" are taking the toll on SAA, iranians, Hezbollah, iraqi shia's yet the Kremlin propaganda machine is in full swing, without any major gains too show about so far.


    https://mobile.twitter.com/Hassanvand/status/657492378861871104/photo/1

    if your involved in war you have to expect casualties and if you compare 15 Iranians and a former body guard dead to the numbers of FSA, ISIS, and other terrorist scum dead i don't think its that bad really, nobody ever expected this to be easy.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #3

    Post  NationalRus on Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:28 am

    Kyo wrote:

    Just who are you trying to fool at? How about the Israeli Colonel Shahak תמשיך captured yesterday in Irak leading ISIL terrorists?

    heee? and what the fuck you want from me? should i make a comment on some rumors that are going on since 4 years from 3rd and 4rth sources about some mysterious generals from foreign country's and of course never with pictures and videos, i dont know this mysterious man, i dont see his mysterious pictures as a POW or his mysterious mission details lol1 so what the fuck you want from me

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