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    Post  aslani.reza Tue Aug 11, 2015 5:25 am

    Dear friends;

    We are going to visit MAKS 2015 and have some seats in our bus. We will go to Zhoukovski from 25 to 28 Aug. Feel free to tell me, if anyone like to join our group and use our service.
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    Post  Viktor Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:39 pm

    Nice thumbsup

    A complete set of AFAR for the PAK FA will present at MAKS
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    Post  Viktor Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:32 pm

    This year MAKS-2015 will be extremely interesting

    Russia To Unveil Futuristic Fighter, Bomber Aircraft Models At MAKS
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:14 pm

    MAKS-2015

    Let's get the ball rollin' !!!  thumbsup  russia


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    ''Russia MAKS-2015 Air Show to Attract Over 150 Companies From 25 Countries''

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    ''Top Three Arms Deals Expected At Upcoming MAKS Air Show    ''

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    Post  VitalyVK Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:58 am

    Already received the accreditation, will be there 25-27 and 29
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    Post  Berkut Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:28 pm

    VitalyVK wrote:Already received the accreditation, will be there 25-27 and 29
    Great Vitaly! As always looking forward to your pictures. Hoping for some good Su-47, MiG-1.44 and T-50 pictures. Smile Also, a small request, if you are going to visit space related stands; please keep an eye out for reusable rocket mock ups and info sheets and such. Smile
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:23 pm

    VitalyVK wrote:Already received the accreditation, will be there 25-27 and 29

    Vitaly, please take some pics of new manned spaceship PTK-NP. Prototype will be on display and that thing never gets proper coverage.
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    Post  marcinko Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:25 pm

    VitalyVK wrote:Already received the accreditation, will be there 25-27 and 29

    That`s why I love you man since the MP net times russia
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:12 pm

    Those aircraft-lovin' no-goodniks started without us!!!  lol1

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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:14 pm

    Douglas C-47 arrived on MAKS  thumbsup  russia

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:37 pm

    From the above posts...what kind of weird model of Mi-24 is this??? Some kind of stunt model of Mi-24???

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    Post  Berkut Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:55 pm

    It is a mock up of a Mi-24 intended to be a testbed for highspeed helicopter technologies.
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    Post  Werewolf Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:30 am

    That tinted glass suggests that it is rather unmanned than manned, such canopy would not met requirements for clear vision.
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    Post  sepheronx Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:56 am

    VitalyVK wrote:Already received the accreditation, will be there 25-27 and 29

    Vitaly, could I please make a request? If you are going to be there, could you please take any photos of MCST booth?
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sat Aug 22, 2015 2:39 am

    Berkut wrote:It is a mock up of a Mi-24 intended to be a testbed for highspeed helicopter technologies.

    Oh??? Is this related to the Mil Mi-X1/Kamov Ka-92 high speed helicopter competition? Has their been anymore news about that competition?
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    Post  Berkut Sat Aug 22, 2015 3:18 am

    There is some confusion about the whole ordeal. It is claimed (who knows by what authority) that this mock up is of "ПСВПС-ЛЛ" which is a testbed for a helicopter with two rotors placed on each side, think Mi V-12. ПСВПС-ЛЛ is developed by Mi using their own funds.

    Then there is ПСВ which can mean two things; "Perspective fast helicopter" or "Perspective medium helicopter" which are very different things of course... There are high speed elements for the later so the test bed mock up could be for both. It seems however the high speed project is dead and morphed into "Perspective medium helicopter" and using high speed elements, just not as high speed as the original PSV. http://www.russianhelicopters.aero/en/press/publications/3126.html Sign under the model says Advanced Medium Helicopter, ie the same as "Perspective medium helicopter".

    Basically; we don't really know for sure at the moment. Hopefully it will get clear over the course of MAKS, but i think it is unlikely to be for "ПСВПС-ЛЛ", most likely for RACHEL.

    Mi-X1 was the original high speed PSV i think so that is dead. Ka-92 is most likely dead too, atleast it is not state funded.
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    Post  Werewolf Sat Aug 22, 2015 12:29 pm

    The problem to work on high speed helicopters while using tail/main rotor scheme is the speed limit they have due the advancing blade that creates an asymmetric lift and as soon as it reaches this speed limit it will tilt and at such speeds that can cause a crash.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:21 am

    The problem to work on high speed helicopters while using tail/main rotor scheme is the speed limit they have due the advancing blade that creates an asymmetric lift and as soon as it reaches this speed limit it will tilt and at such speeds that can cause a crash.

    Yes... called a retreating blade stall, where the blade moving forward gets extra lift from the forward air speed of the aircraft, while the retreating blade on the other side has to be adjusted to a higher angle of attack to generate the same amount of lift with the flight speed deducted from its rotational speed.

    The top speed is limited by the amount of angle the retreating blade can be angled to and still generate lift... when it stalls the advancing blade generates lots of lift, while the retreating blade generates no lift... only drag and the aircraft rapidly rolls and flips over on its back... and normally crashes.

    On a coaxial design like the Hokum there are two retreating blades and two forward moving blades so the lift is more balanced.

    Great pictures BTW everybody.
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    Post  Guest Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:15 am



    Mi-26 showing off and a few other aircraft too.
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    Post  Viktor Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:48 am

    Nice thumbsup

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    Post  George1 Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:31 pm

    For me the most important is to have contracts signed during the show
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    Post  VitalyVK Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:56 am

    sepheronx wrote:
    VitalyVK wrote:Already received the accreditation, will be there 25-27 and 29

    Vitaly, could I please make a request?  If you are going to be there, could you please take any photos of MCST booth?

    ok, MCST I suppose is the company producing Elbrus PC and other electronics?
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:51 pm

    George1 wrote:For me the most important is to have contracts signed during the show
    As a former capital goods salesman, rather than having contracts that had already been agreed signed at some event like this show, it was much more important to find potentially new customers.

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