PAK-FA, T-50: News #3

nemrod wrote:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/incredible-graphic-shows-firepower-russias-012300270.html

Business Insider By Jeremy Bender
February 16, 2016 8:23 PM

As the US continues to push ahead with the development of its fifth-generation fighter the F-35, Russia has been hammering away at its own next-generation aircraft.

The PAK FA, also known as the T-50, is Russia's answer to America's F-35 and China's J-20. Moscow envisions their fighter to carry out long-range strikes, intelligently target ground targets, and destroy enemy aircraft all the while  stealth.

To accomplish those goals, the PAK FA will come armed with an extensive set of armaments. Below is an infographic by Russia-based designer Anton Egorov depicting the PAK FA's weapons:

Any specifications for the PAK FA are currently open to a number of disclaimers. Firstly, there is no guarantee that what Moscow is announcing for the aircraft are accurate as the plane will likely not be ready for combat until somewhere between 2018 and 2020.

Secondly, like the F-35, the PAK FA is undergoing its own range of developmental problems that could influence the viability of the aircraft and the weapons that it could carry. For example, some of the problems the aircraft is currently facing are engine performance problems in addition to the airframe having a larger radar cross-section than planned.

Currently, Russia is planning on purchasing 12 PAK FA down from an initial order of 52 due to problems with the plane, rising cost, and problems facing Russia's economy.

nemrod wrote:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/incredible-graphic-shows-firepower-russias-012300270.html

Business Insider By Jeremy Bender
February 16, 2016 8:23 PM

As the US continues to push ahead with the development of its fifth-generation fighter the F-35, Russia has been hammering away at its own next-generation aircraft.

The PAK FA, also known as the T-50, is Russia's answer to America's F-35 and China's J-20. Moscow envisions their fighter to carry out long-range strikes, intelligently target ground targets, and destroy enemy aircraft all the while  stealth.

To accomplish those goals, the PAK FA will come armed with an extensive set of armaments. Below is an infographic by Russia-based designer Anton Egorov depicting the PAK FA's weapons:

Any specifications for the PAK FA are currently open to a number of disclaimers. Firstly, there is no guarantee that what Moscow is announcing for the aircraft are accurate as the plane will likely not be ready for combat until somewhere between 2018 and 2020.

Secondly, like the F-35, the PAK FA is undergoing its own range of developmental problems that could influence the viability of the aircraft and the weapons that it could carry. For example, some of the problems the aircraft is currently facing are engine performance problems in addition to the airframe having a larger radar cross-section than planned.

Currently, Russia is planning on purchasing 12 PAK FA down from an initial order of 52 due to problems with the plane, rising cost, and problems facing Russia's economy.

kvs wrote:

nemrod wrote:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/incredible-graphic-shows-firepower-russias-012300270.html

Business Insider By Jeremy Bender
February 16, 2016 8:23 PM

As the US continues to push ahead with the development of its fifth-generation fighter the F-35, Russia has been hammering away at its own next-generation aircraft.

The PAK FA, also known as the T-50, is Russia's answer to America's F-35 and China's J-20. Moscow envisions their fighter to carry out long-range strikes, intelligently target ground targets, and destroy enemy aircraft all the while  stealth.

To accomplish those goals, the PAK FA will come armed with an extensive set of armaments. Below is an infographic by Russia-based designer Anton Egorov depicting the PAK FA's weapons:

Any specifications for the PAK FA are currently open to a number of disclaimers. Firstly, there is no guarantee that what Moscow is announcing for the aircraft are accurate as the plane will likely not be ready for combat until somewhere between 2018 and 2020.

Secondly, like the F-35, the PAK FA is undergoing its own range of developmental problems that could influence the viability of the aircraft and the weapons that it could carry. For example, some of the problems the aircraft is currently facing are engine performance problems in addition to the airframe having a larger radar cross-section than planned.

Currently, Russia is planning on purchasing 12 PAK FA down from an initial order of 52 due to problems with the plane, rising cost, and problems facing Russia's economy.

Fantasy fiction from the waste of space western MSM.  Engine problems?  LOL.  The current engine delivers quite nicely and the
planned and on schedule final version will deliver even more.   As for the radar cross-section, there is no f*cking way this reporter
or any of his hypothetical sources would know if such an issue even existed.  

The T-50 has the best side profile by far.   It does not have the stupid billboard sized rudders of the F-22 and the brick shape of the
F-35.  Anyone with a functional brain and eyeballs and see this.   And the scatter of EM radiation is all about the cross section.
Slanted or not.

magnumcromagnon wrote:Don't know why people still cite Yahoo news.

Berkut wrote:

GarryB wrote:What do you mean?

I see paint being used to disguise the size and outline of the aircraft... what are you seeing?

Look at the pink coloration on the leading edge of the nearest wing.

GarryB wrote:

Look at the pink coloration on the leading edge of the nearest wing.

It is hard to say... look at the photos near the top with the aircraft on the runway (ie top two photos in that post) the leading edge of the wing seems to be painted the same colour as the rest of the edges... ie white.

The photo you reposted seems to show the wing being painted with a mix of white and some other colour to break up the shape of the white outer area... to make the white outer area blend in better with the background and make the dark area of paint look like the actual aircraft.

I suspect the picture you posted shows a pinkish tinge to the leading edge because it is probably reflecting light from low on the horizon.

The british painted their recon aircraft pink as a camouflage for use in clouds and desert because from some angles it blends in.

If you click on the image and view it full size you can see the leading edge is not really pink but the wing from the leading edge to where the dark paint starts is different colours.

GarryB wrote:

Look at the pink coloration on the leading edge of the nearest wing.

It is hard to say... look at the photos near the top with the aircraft on the runway (ie top two photos in that post) the leading edge of the wing seems to be painted the same colour as the rest of the edges... ie white.

The photo you reposted seems to show the wing being painted with a mix of white and some other colour to break up the shape of the white outer area... to make the white outer area blend in better with the background and make the dark area of paint look like the actual aircraft.

I suspect the picture you posted shows a pinkish tinge to the leading edge because it is probably reflecting light from low on the horizon.

The british painted their recon aircraft pink as a camouflage for use in clouds and desert because from some angles it blends in.

If you click on the image and view it full size you can see the leading edge is not really pink but the wing from the leading edge to where the dark paint starts is different colours.

PapaDragon wrote:Engines will be covered in the final version, there are photos of new airframe several pages back with full engine covers.

T-50-1 - 274 hours 227 landings.
T-50-2 - 244 hours, 241 landings.
T-50-3 - 340 hours and 175 landings.
T 50-4 - 225 hours, 152 landings.
T-50-5R (renovated) - 19 hours and 12 landings.

max steel wrote: