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    Post  Guest on Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:44 pm

    Stealthflanker wrote:Those captured abrams hurt my eyes...why the fuck they deployed it without support.

    Anyway i wonder if Russia can take chance and snap one.. They're M1A2, the best US can offer for export.

    As for me.. well i'd be happy to travel alongside those Houthi rebels with my retractable rules.. and measure the Abram's turret thickness.

    M1A2S is exact designation for Saudi export version i belive, some were originally made as M1A2s and some were converted from M1A1s (50+) via AIM overhaul concept used by US Army.
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    Post  Werewolf on Sat Sep 26, 2015 11:33 pm

    Stealthflanker wrote:Those captured abrams hurt my eyes...why the fuck they deployed it without support.

    Anyway i wonder if Russia can take chance and snap one.. They're M1A2, the best US can offer for export.

    As for me.. well i'd be happy to travel alongside those Houthi rebels with my retractable rules.. and measure the Abram's turret thickness.

    Hard to snatch a tank that is so heavy, the best anti-stealing technology. Make it fat and slow and very hard to pull out.
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    Post  Guest on Sat Sep 26, 2015 11:55 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    Stealthflanker wrote:Those captured abrams hurt my eyes...why the fuck they deployed it without support.

    Anyway i wonder if Russia can take chance and snap one.. They're M1A2, the best US can offer for export.

    As for me.. well i'd be happy to travel alongside those Houthi rebels with my retractable rules.. and measure the Abram's turret thickness.

    Hard to snatch a tank that is so heavy, the best anti-stealing technology. Make it fat and slow and very hard to pull out.

    When we are at "anti-stealing technology", some years ago (2008. i belive) one guy that claimed he served in the US Marine 1st Armored batallion under 1st Marine Division told me that commander has to enter certain code that he gets distributed to him by direct upper commander that allows the crew to operate the vehicle. To me this looks quite unlikely, coz i know what kind of mess "combat ready" order becomes in 3 AM when guys run around without one boot and both socks while trying to get to the vehicles, imagine now having to enter some code when you are in. Or question is, when code expires? When engine is off? Or APU? Or when you turn off Battle managament system?

    I dont really see how this would work in field. Something went wrong, you lost all power, you are turning systems back on, enemy is engaging and you are entering code to arm your main gun O.o? So does anyone around here has such information, does this code really exists, coz i had some quite good literature regarding M1A1 and i never read about something of a kind. We did have codes here in army for certain stuff, but that was mostly just for identification during communication.
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    Post  Werewolf on Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:02 am

    Militarov wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:
    Stealthflanker wrote:Those captured abrams hurt my eyes...why the fuck they deployed it without support.

    Anyway i wonder if Russia can take chance and snap one.. They're M1A2, the best US can offer for export.

    As for me.. well i'd be happy to travel alongside those Houthi rebels with my retractable rules.. and measure the Abram's turret thickness.

    Hard to snatch a tank that is so heavy, the best anti-stealing technology. Make it fat and slow and very hard to pull out.

    When we are at "anti-stealing technology", some years ago (2008. i belive) one guy that claimed he served in the US Marine 1st Armored batallion under 1st Marine Division told me that commander has to enter certain code that he gets distributed to him by direct upper commander that allows the crew to operate the vehicle. To me this looks quite unlikely, coz i know what kind of mess "combat ready" order becomes in 3 AM when guys run around without one boot and both socks while trying to get to the vehicles, imagine now having to enter some code when you are in. Or question is, when code expires? When engine is off? Or APU? Or when you turn off Battle managament system?

    I dont really see how this would work in field. Something went wrong, you lost all power, you are turning systems back on, enemy is engaging and you are entering code to arm your main gun O.o? So does anyone around here has such information, does this code really exists, coz i had some quite good literature regarding M1A1 and i never read about something of a kind. We did have codes here in army for certain stuff, but that was mostly just for identification during communication.

    AFAIK only detterance weapons have such codes and are very problematic to keep running like you said for actual combat, not to mention one vehicle is always issued to several drivers/pilots and no exclusive pilot/mechanic/driver etc.
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    Post  Guest on Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:06 am

    Werewolf wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:
    Stealthflanker wrote:Those captured abrams hurt my eyes...why the fuck they deployed it without support.

    Anyway i wonder if Russia can take chance and snap one.. They're M1A2, the best US can offer for export.

    As for me.. well i'd be happy to travel alongside those Houthi rebels with my retractable rules.. and measure the Abram's turret thickness.

    Hard to snatch a tank that is so heavy, the best anti-stealing technology. Make it fat and slow and very hard to pull out.

    When we are at "anti-stealing technology", some years ago (2008. i belive) one guy that claimed he served in the US Marine 1st Armored batallion under 1st Marine Division told me that commander has to enter certain code that he gets distributed to him by direct upper commander that allows the crew to operate the vehicle. To me this looks quite unlikely, coz i know what kind of mess "combat ready" order becomes in 3 AM when guys run around without one boot and both socks while trying to get to the vehicles, imagine now having to enter some code when you are in. Or question is, when code expires? When engine is off? Or APU? Or when you turn off Battle managament system?

    I dont really see how this would work in field. Something went wrong, you lost all power, you are turning systems back on, enemy is engaging and you are entering code to arm your main gun O.o? So does anyone around here has such information, does this code really exists, coz i had some quite good literature regarding M1A1 and i never read about something of a kind. We did have codes here in army for certain stuff, but that was mostly just for identification during communication.

    AFAIK only detterance weapons have such codes and are very problematic to keep running like you said for actual combat, not to mention one vehicle is always issued to several drivers/pilots and no exclusive pilot/mechanic/driver etc.

    My thoughts exacly, even our Luna-Ms didnt have launch codes to my knowledge (i guess they had physical launch key), why da hell would tank then it complicates stuff beyond imagination.
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    Post  JohninMK on Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:27 am

    Militarov wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:
    Stealthflanker wrote:Those captured abrams hurt my eyes...why the fuck they deployed it without support.

    Anyway i wonder if Russia can take chance and snap one.. They're M1A2, the best US can offer for export.

    As for me.. well i'd be happy to travel alongside those Houthi rebels with my retractable rules.. and measure the Abram's turret thickness.

    Hard to snatch a tank that is so heavy, the best anti-stealing technology. Make it fat and slow and very hard to pull out.

    When we are at "anti-stealing technology", some years ago (2008. i belive) one guy that claimed he served in the US Marine 1st Armored batallion under 1st Marine Division told me that commander has to enter certain code that he gets distributed to him by direct upper commander that allows the crew to operate the vehicle. To me this looks quite unlikely, coz i know what kind of mess "combat ready" order becomes in 3 AM when guys run around without one boot and both socks while trying to get to the vehicles, imagine now having to enter some code when you are in. Or question is, when code expires? When engine is off? Or APU? Or when you turn off Battle managament system?

    I dont really see how this would work in field. Something went wrong, you lost all power, you are turning systems back on, enemy is engaging and you are entering code to arm your main gun O.o? So does anyone around here has such information, does this code really exists, coz i had some quite good literature regarding M1A1 and i never read about something of a kind. We did have codes here in army for certain stuff, but that was mostly just for identification during communication.

    AFAIK only detterance weapons have such codes and are very problematic to keep running like you said for actual combat, not to mention one vehicle is always issued to several drivers/pilots and no exclusive pilot/mechanic/driver etc.

    My thoughts exacly, even our Luna-Ms didnt have launch codes to my knowledge (i guess they had physical launch key), why da hell would tank then it complicates stuff beyond imagination.
    ECU probably has a diagnostic port, just like the top end cars that are being 'exported' from the EU. Smile
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    Post  HUNTER VZLA on Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:18 am

    Houthis channel shows a US made M167 Vulcan air defense system


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    Post  Zivo on Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:22 am

    HUNTER VZLA wrote:Houthis channel shows a US made M167 Vulcan air defense system


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    Next stop, the back of a white Toyota. attack
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    Post  Guest on Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:47 am

    HUNTER VZLA wrote:Houthis channel shows a US made M167 Vulcan air defense system


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    To my knowledge this is not suprising, Yemen has/had M167 VADS in their military service. Tho its still quite exotic system, not many were built compared to other AA guns around.
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    Post  Zivo on Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:05 am

    It's not the first one they captured.

    Here's one on a BTR-152.

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    Here's another on a M35(?)

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    Post  Guest on Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:19 am

    Zivo wrote:It's not the first one they captured.

    Here's one on a BTR-152.

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    Here's another on a M35(?)

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    Yeah, Sudan and Yemen both mounted them on BTR 152. Good eye that truly is M35, tho i think it has double back tires so its probably M45 or whatever they called it, tho that photo looks like crap, it could have pancakes instead of back tires i wouldnt tell a difference.
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    Post  George1 on Sun Sep 27, 2015 7:33 pm

    Allegedly, the first captured Leclerc tank from Huthis

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    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1491441.html
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    Post  medo on Sun Sep 27, 2015 7:39 pm

    George1 wrote:
    Allegedly, the first captured Leclerc tank from Huthis

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    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1491441.html

    I wonder if they will be able to use it, or will just blow it up.
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    Post  Werewolf on Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:00 pm

    Send all those tanks to russia and china as a repayment for the stolen equipment via proxy customers.
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    Post  HUNTER VZLA on Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:02 pm

    MRAPS column Saudis destroyed by the Yemeni army in the city of Jizan


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    Post  Guest on Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:06 pm

    Werewolf wrote:Send all those tanks to russia and china as a repayment for the stolen equipment via proxy customers.

    Russia could totally use these channels to obtain M1A2S and AMX Leclerc for evaluation, maybe even some other stuff that Saudi Arabia and UAE are using and Russia never had chance to lay hands on. Mby some downed AH64D will end up with most of its electronics untouched Very Happy The more you know... NATO and USA most notably always used these proxy wars to obtain USSR equipment for trials and evaluation.
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    Post  flamming_python on Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:15 pm

    Bloody hell, what a grinder for the Saudis.
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    Post  JohninMK on Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:26 pm

    flamming_python wrote:Bloody hell, what a grinder for the Saudis.
    Is there some kind of Muslim protocol to clear away any dead bodies before photographing the site?
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    Post  Guest on Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:47 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:Bloody hell, what a grinder for the Saudis.
    Is there some kind of Muslim protocol to clear away any dead bodies before photographing the site?

    Not to my knowledge, they are actually very often taking photos of maimed bodies from what i can observe.
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    Post  marat on Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:48 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Is there some kind of Muslim protocol to clear away any dead bodies before photographing the site?
    I noticed that also there is no dead body in any video or picture, i start to believe that saudies just run away as soon as first shoot is fired.

    Compare Yemen videos with Ukraina...
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    Post  iraqidabab on Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:01 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:Bloody hell, what a grinder for the Saudis.
    Is there some kind of Muslim protocol to clear away any dead bodies before photographing the site?

    Not a Muslim protocol. Houthi protocol, their leader Abdel Malik al Houthi doesn't allow it, for the same reason you saw Saudi soldiers captured by Houthis treated as humans, not as enemies or any of the things IS does.
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    Post  mack8 on Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:01 pm

    marat wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    Is there some kind of Muslim protocol to clear away any dead bodies before photographing the site?
    I noticed that also there is no dead body in any video or picture, i start to believe that saudies just run away as soon as first shoot is fired.

    Compare Yemen videos with Ukraina...

    A member on forcesdz had a very good point, the houthis are using a very professional PR tactic,  no gore means their exploits can be seen by the maximum amount of peoples, while the images of charred saudi and GCC rats might cause sympathy to some and paint them in a bad way, which certain "interests" might use to compare them to the ISIS rats.

    Personally, i wish the houthis good hunting, waste as many saudi & GCC rats as they can, and i hope they will prevail in their struggle.


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    Post  flamming_python on Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:30 pm

    With the amount of Saudi vehicles standing around and not doing s**t while being leisurely targeted by Houthi ATGMs and RPGs; I'm starting to think that most of the explanation really does come down to the fact that Saudi forces and paid mercenaries really do bail and flee as soon as the first pellet pings off their tank armour.
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    Post  JohninMK on Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:40 pm

    flamming_python wrote:With the amount of Saudi vehicles standing around and not doing s**t while being leisurely targeted by Houthi ATGMs and RPGs; I'm starting to think that most of the explanation really does come down to the fact that Saudi forces and paid mercenaries really do bail and flee as soon as the first pellet pings off their tank armour.
    Perhaps a protocol has developed, Houthis fire a few rounds at Saudi vehicles, soldiers decamp and flee unhurt, Houthis ransack then destroy that which they don't need. Everyone wins, minimum casualties on either side, plenty of destruction (we put up a hell of a fight before we escaped), no fear in the next encounter, Saudis order more gear from the US. Its win win.

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