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    Nagumo

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    Russian Military Airships

    Post  Nagumo on Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:32 pm

    Here is list of soviet airships from 1920 to 1945 with beatiful photos: http://englishrussia.com/2012/02/06/about-soviet-airships/ Exist any post 1945 airships of soviet/russian design?
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:19 am

    Actually The Russians are building new airships now as we speak... they even sold some to China and specialise in tethered airships for use in mountainous areas for communication relay and AWACS use.

    Try this website:

    http://rosaerosystems.com/company/about/


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    Post  Nagumo on Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:53 am

    GarryB wrote:Actually The Russians are building new airships now as we speak... they even sold some to China and specialise in tethered airships for use in mountainous areas for communication relay and AWACS use.

    Try this website:

    http://rosaerosystems.com/company/about/

    Thanks. And existed any Cold War Airships?
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:41 am

    Actually most of the balloon work was western balloons that were floated across the Soviet Union for spying purposes.

    The Soviets invested a lot of money on interceptors like the M-17/M-55 that originally had a 23mm cannon equipped with ammo with very sensitive fuses designed to shoot down balloons.

    The fuses were so sensitive they would detonate if they hit rain, but most of the targets were operating above the weather.


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    Post  Cyberspec on Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:38 am

    Cyberspec wrote:The tethered aerostat complex "Peresvet", which is planned to put a new generation of repeater
    created in the interests of the Russian Defense Ministry, is entering a stage of state tests.

    Source: http://vpk-news.ru/news/24972

    An update on the airship program "Atlant"....sounds like a heavy cargo carrying type

    Russia to Complete Construction of Airship ‘Atlant’ for Army by 2018
    http://sputniknews.com/military/20150628/1023962970.html#ixzz3ePhq6g4e

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    More detailed overview here: http://rosaerosystems.com/news/news808

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    Post  George1 on Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:07 am

    Russia to Complete Construction of Airship ‘Atlant’ for Army by 2018

    'Augur RosAeroSystems' is a leading Russian lighter-than-air manufacturer. The company builds big airships and aerostats equipped with high-precision computer equipment and technology. The recent announcement by the company tells of airship 'Atlant' to be ready for the Russian Army by 2018.

    The ‘Augur-RosAeroSystems’ Holding is set to build the airship ‘Atlant’ by the end of 2018. It will have the capacity of carrying over 16 tons of weight.

    RosAeroSystems is a leading Russian lighter-than-air manufacturer. The company builds big airships and aerostats. It is the only Russian enterprise, and one of the few in the world with own and powerful aerostatic envelope production division, able to produce and test envelopes up to 50 000 cub m volume. The envelope production line is equipped by high-precision computerized cutting equipment and RF welding machines.

    The airship ‘Atlant’ will possibly be used by the Defense Ministry.

    According to the Vice President of the Holding, Mikhail Talesnikov, the development work of the first phase will be completed in December of this year. It will be examined, displaying the innovation system balancing. By 2018, ‘Atlant’ is scheduled to begin flight testing with the first prototype carrying weight capacity of 16 tons and volume of 30 thousand cubic meters.

    The vice president stressed that this innovation cannot be made by anyone else in the world in such a short time span.

    “During the unloading of the weight at the point of arrival, the airship will be able to get heavier via controls without needing ballast, in that way it will not get weightless after unload and will not soar into the stratosphere. This system is unique, nowhere abroad do they have that,” elaborated Talesnikov, media reports.

    It was earlier reported that the modification of the airships towards more militarized concept is being carried out on airship ‘Atlant-30’- carrying capacity of 16 tons and airship ‘Atlant-100’- carrying capacity of 60 tons.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150628/1023962970.html#ixzz3eQrV5keh


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    Post  Flanky on Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:33 pm

    Airships are the future.
    Aerostats would be perfect for detection of cruise missiles, border guarding, in guerilla wars for region monitoring and as electronic warfare platforms...
    But this thing: http://rosaerosystems.com/projects/obj687 is a class in and of itself...
    a true HALE platform... ancher one near the outer border of US maritime border of LA and you would have all the important places right below your nose for observation... Vandenberg AFB, White Sands MR, Groom lake, Nellis AFB... a true ultimate spy tool.

    But the Atlant transport version would be ideal for getting to remote Siberian locations and out of there as well. Airships are the future. With airship you can land anywhere... even in the middle of ocean.
    This is the future....
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    Post  max steel on Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:55 pm

    So basically russia is reinstating its aerostat ballons back like they did earlier and sold it to chinese . Now after seeing american JLENS programme which they'll be using to fend off any russian cruise missile attack . russia is doing the same by making new aerostats . am I right ?


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    Re: Russian Military Airships

    Post  GarryB on Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:58 am

    They have their own issues with weather, but if you have to deliver a 50 ton turbine to a remote area with no roads or rivers and no airfields, then it is cheaper to fly it in via airship than to have to build roads and airports...

    Lots of places benefit from such infrastructure, but with a one off... say a hydro electric dam in the middle of nowhere, where you wont need lots of roads or airports then an airship is ideal... it can pick the turbine up from where it is made and carry it to where it is needed... no truck transfers and awkward drives up narrow winding roads.


    In addition to carrying heavy or large awkward loads they can be tethered and operate in one location for several months... for border patrol or communications relay or other combined duties they are excellent.

    The advancements in fuel cell technology and new composite materials that are light and strong and not combustible the age of the airship is coming... when speed is not critical it would be an ideal way to move things.


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    Post  Viktor on Sat May 06, 2017 8:40 am

    Detailed article about extensive work on Russian military Zeppelins ... and intesersting approach.

    Aplication: - all over but Artic is where they can show their efficiency while doing, EW, air defense, transport of supplies and army, telecommunications etc

    https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20170506/1493770784.html
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    Re: Russian Military Airships

    Post  GarryB on Sun May 07, 2017 4:46 am

    If the operating altitude is to be over 10,000m then I think a return to hydrogen makes sense.

    It is more efficient than helium and vastly cheaper.

    If it is an unmanned vessel to operate at very high altitude then purge the insides with nitrogen so there is no air at all inside. Inside the gas bags fill with hydrogen for max lift.

    In the ballast tanks you can have pure water and a hydrogen fuel cell will enable the converting of hydrogen to water and back again... above the 10,000m zone where there is not so much oxygen rather than converting the hydrogen into water using the fuel cell you could simply use a compressor to compress it down to take away its ability to lift the aircraft... once it is down low enough for atmospheric O2 then decompress the H2 and use the fuel cell to convert it into water which is an excellent ballast material.

    To climb decompress the H2 to gain max floatation and use the fuel cell to convert some water into H2 as well (venting the O2 for safety).

    Solar panels and batteries can provide the necessary energy.

    Redesign of the shape of these air ships could improve performance... for instance a large flying wing shape should reduce drag to minimise energy requirements to maintain station in high altitude slipstreams, while a semi rigid hull with wheels or even hovercraft bottoms could allow a rolling takeoff on almost any surface... on land or at sea.

    The enormous flat area would also allow a lot more solar panel coverage too.


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