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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  gaurav on Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:42 am

    are you OK son? your talkin´ sh!t now
    AM NOT TALIKNG SHT .. IF I was talking non sense then knowledgeable posters/users would have given extremely negative comments..

    I cannot comment anythign more than this.. Evrything I said is real .. this is a fraud and junk relationship Russia trying to gain business from Hindutva cults .... It needs business to stay alive who will give business to russia.. U.S , Germany , France .. U.K wtf are yu talkin about ..
    No it will be ither Indian or Chinese state companies that give business to Russia ..

    Russia China partnership is real but Russia India partnership is full of fraud , backstabbing and perpetual delays .. nothing else..
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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:55 am

    gaurav wrote:
    are you OK son? your talkin´ sh!t now
    AM NOT TALIKNG SHT .. IF I was talking non sense then knowledgeable posters/users would have given extremely negative comments..

    I cannot comment anythign more than this.. Evrything I said is real .. this is a fraud and junk relationship Russia trying to gain business from Hindutva cults .... It needs business to stay alive who will give business to russia.. U.S , Germany , France .. U.K wtf are yu talkin about ..
    No it will be ither Indian or Chinese state companies that give business to Russia ..

    Russia China partnership is real but Russia India partnership is full of fraud , backstabbing and perpetual delays .. nothing else..

    So damn Putin, knows nothing about politics at least not on your level? First please clam down then try to rephrase about partneships and interests. Like what would you expect form Russia´s business partners? No calling names on Indians or Chinese or anybody else. pl
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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:04 am

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    The most credible deal on this Putin Visit to India has been taking over of Indian oil com Essar by Rosneft for 13 b $ in all cash deal. Unless we increase economic cooperation between india and Russia our relationship is going to be limited to defence deals


    Hard to disagree, India is a big market and incredibly fast growing. My question is what could be done to increase interests in joint ventures, investment funds? state support? Both economies lack strong presence on consumer market. Maybe joint aiming of consumer market could have potential??


    Talking about middle clase - this looks like deeper market than EU in foreseeable future...

    "Standard of living in India varies from state to state. With one of the fastest growing economies in the world, clocked at a growth rate of 7.6% in 2015, India is fast on its way to becoming a large and globally important consumer economy. According to Deutsche Bank Research the estimates are nearly 300 million people for all Middle Class.[1] If current trends continue, India's share of world GDP will significantly increase from 7.3 in 2016 to 8.5 percent of the world share by 2020.[2] In 2011, less than 22 percent of Indians lived under the global poverty line, nearly a 10 percent reduction from 29.8 percent just two years prior in 2009.[3]

    According to NCAER, India's middle class population would be 267 million in 2016. Further ahead, by 2025-26 the number of middle class households in India is likely to more than double from the 2015-16 levels to 113.8 million households or 547 million individuals.[4] Another estimate put the Indian middle class as numbering 475 million people by 2030.[5] It is estimated that average real wages will quadruple between 2013 and 2030.[6]"



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_of_living_in_India
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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  Pinto on Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:47 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    Pinto wrote:
    The most credible deal on this Putin Visit to India has been taking over of Indian oil com Essar by Rosneft for 13 b $ in all cash deal. Unless we increase economic cooperation between india and Russia our relationship is going to be limited to defence deals


    Hard to disagree, India is a big market and incredibly fast growing. My question is what could be done to increase interests in joint ventures, investment funds? state support? Both economies lack strong presence on consumer market. Maybe joint aiming of consumer market could have potential??


    Talking about middle clase - this looks like deeper market than EU in foreseeable future...

    "Standard of living in India varies from state to state. With one of the fastest growing economies in the world, clocked at a growth rate of 7.6% in 2015, India is fast on its way to becoming a large and globally important consumer economy. According to Deutsche Bank Research the estimates are nearly 300 million people for all Middle Class.[1] If current trends continue, India's share of world GDP will significantly increase from 7.3 in 2016 to 8.5 percent of the world share by 2020.[2] In 2011, less than 22 percent of Indians lived under the global poverty line, nearly a 10 percent reduction from 29.8 percent just two years prior in 2009.[3]

    According to NCAER, India's middle class population would be 267 million in 2016. Further ahead, by 2025-26 the number of middle class households in India is likely to more than double from the 2015-16 levels to 113.8 million households or 547 million individuals.[4] Another estimate put the Indian middle class as numbering 475 million people by 2030.[5] It is estimated that average real wages will quadruple between 2013 and 2030.[6]"



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_of_living_in_India

    First Up India and Russia have more misses in genuine trade then hits to there credits, of course carried away by huge defense deals since 1960's onward. Things started changing in Russia after 1991 and it started opening up its state controlled cos and so did India exactly at the same time. But even after opening there economies in 1991 the focus of our leaders has always been on defense and this has proved to be more of a stationery state in our ties now

    you can notice in 2015 there was no worth mentioning defense deals and trade was measly 7 b$ plus, its peanuts for bigger emerging economies like ours and everyone started shouting specially media that India is sold out to EU and US. But the fact of the matter is India has trade with both EU, US and India have growing trade which is around 150 b $ plus at the moment which gave credence to this theory

    now since past couple of years our leaders realized the strategic potential of trade and have started focusing on economic side of relationship.

    Recently there have been very encouraging signs of Russian co signing deal with GAIL(gas authority of India) for laying pipelines for gas in India which entails investment of 25b$.


    Russia's Gazprom sees new LNG deal with India's Gail in six months

    http://in.reuters.com/article/russia-gazprom-india-idINKBN12F0ED

    If more and more such sectors are identified and given push then no US or EU can spoil the Trusted, old, traditional friendly ties between Russia and India

    Many Indian private sector cos have capacity and financial resources to invest in Russia in big way and i am very optimistic about this in next 3-4 yrs to see trade to go up to at least 20 b$ which too will be low but atleast will say 300% jump from today's figures. Many Indian software cos can set up shop in Russia as all of them are cash surplus. Russia too is exploring to set up Truck manufacturing co in India which again is encouraging sign. Russia also now intends to get the raw diamonds to be cut and polished and made commercially ready in surat in India which is diamond industry for such work in the world. So things are looking up although very late and slowly

    Indian middle class is increasing its earning every year and can be big consumer base for Russian industry the areas our govt's needs to decide in which areas Russian cos can benefit

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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sun Oct 16, 2016 3:26 pm

    Pinto wrote:
    If more and more such sectors are identified and given push then no US or EU can spoil the Trusted, old, traditional friendly ties between Russia and India

    Many Indian private sector cos have capacity and financial resources to invest in Russia in big way and i am very optimistic about this in next 3-4 yrs to see trade to go up to at least 20 b$ which too will be low but atleast will say 300% jump from today's figures. Many Indian software cos can set up shop in Russia as all of them are cash surplus. Russia too is exploring to set up Truck manufacturing co in India which again is encouraging sign. Russia also now intends to get the raw diamonds to be cut and polished and made commercially ready in surat in India which is diamond industry for such work in the world. So things are looking up although very late and slowly

    Indian middle class is increasing its earning every year and can be big consumer base for Russian industry the areas our govt's needs to decide in which areas Russian cos can benefit




    As for Russo-Indian relations. There is no business without mutually beneficial cooperation. Otherwise this is like partnership with US - colonialism Smile

    Russia and India for different reasons did not invest much so fat in consumer goods. OK without roads and energy you wont go far but without consumer goods there will be not much of trade. Weapons, food and energy...IMHO this is definitely to govts to build framework for cooperation. Private or state owned companies can fill this but wiphout state support this might not happen or happen with low dynamics.

    True thet US and EU have bigger share in trade with India than Russia. the question is if this will not make India more susceptible on Potential sanctions than Russia...I am sure that Indian elites are aware of this much better then I am. "Friendship" with west ends up first day if you will voice different opinion. Building multipolar world is both in benefit of Russia and India not to mention other BRICS.


    I´d gladly see growing cooperation in microelectronics, consumer electronics or pharmacy.


    BTW I am not Russian Very Happy
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    Arms deal with Moscow fits into India’s defence needs

    Post  Pinto on Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:17 am

    Ajay Banerjee


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    New Delhi, October 15

    The agreement between India and Russia on military equipment purchase is being tipped as a “game-changer” as it further cements the five-decade-old ties between the two nations.
    The outcome of the Narendra Modi-Vladimir Putin bilateral meeting in Goa this afternoon will be read with keen interest among military observers in China, Pakistan, the US, Japan and Europe.

    Set to cost $5 billion (Rs 39,000 crore), “S-400 Triumf” air defence missiles are mounted on road mobile launchers and carried by specialised trucks. The missile system includes multi-layered radars capable of tracking 300 targets such as missiles, planes, drones, helicopters and shoot down around three dozen simultaneously.

    It can hit incoming airborne targets between 20 km and 400 km — a rarity to have such vast range mated in a single missile system. It can also hit target at an altitude of 55 km. With inter-continental missiles (having more than 5,500 km range) travelling at 70-80 km altitude, this can come in handy for the defence forces. Russia deployed the missile system during the attack launched on the Islamic State in Syria a few months ago.

    (Follow The Tribune on Facebook; and Twitter @thetribunechd)

    The Kamov 226T helicopter will allow pilots to fly to the Siachen glacier or similar altitudes across the Himalayas much safely and with greater load carrying capacities. At least 200 of the twin-engine Kamov — a light utility helicopter — will be produced. These will cost $1 billion (Rs 6,800 crore).

    The helicopters will be deployed for surveillance, dropping small loads and for rescue, including of troops posted at high altitudes such as the Siachen Glacier-Saltoro Ridge region. It has a flight ceiling of 18,700 feet — meaning it can fly over almost all of the Himalayan passes with ease. It will be made in India by public sector Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL).

    Admiral Grigorovich-class (Project 11356) stealth frigates will replace the three Godavari-class frigates that the Navy has. One of these has been de-commissioned while the other two are on their way out. The “Yantar” shipyard in Russia made six of these between 2003 and 2013. Of the four more, two are ready in Russia and will have a Ukrainian engine. The deal had been held up due to frosty relations between Russia and Ukraine. Two others will be made at an Indian shipyard.

    http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/arms-deal-with-moscow-fits-into-india-s-defence-needs/310312.html
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    India, Russia to hold talks on military ties today

    Post  Pinto on Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:32 am



    Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu will be arriving here and will co-chair a meeting of the Indo-Russian Inter Governmental Commission on Military Technical Cooperation (IRIGCMTC) here today with his Indian counterpart Manohar Parrikar.


    India and Russia will today hold detailed discussions on deeper military cooperations, especially on joint production of fifth generation fighter aircraft, upgradation of Su-30 MKI planes and firming up the contract for the S400 Triumf air defence system.


    Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu will be arriving here and will co-chair a meeting of the Indo-Russian Inter Governmental Commission on Military Technical Cooperation (IRIGCMTC) here today with his Indian counterpart Manohar Parrikar.


    The two will have restricted meeting followed by delegation-level talks, defence sources said. It was during a meeting of the commission in Moscow last year that both sides had firmed up plans to acquire the air defence system and other deals which were recently signed on the sidelines of the BRICS meet in Goa.


    Sergei Chemezov, CEO of Rostec State Corporation, a Russian umbrella organisation of 700 hi-tech civilian and military firms, had told PTI that they expect the agreement on fifth generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) to be finalise by this year end.


    After a hiatus of nearly a year, India and Russia had in February revived talks on the much delayed FGFA project after a clearance from Parrikar. Since then, a lot of issues related to work share, IPR and technology transfer among others have been sorted out between the two sides along with the monetary commitments.


    Under the new offer, India will have to pay about USD 3.7 billion, instead of USD 6 billion, for technological know-how and three prototypes of the fighters, the sources said. In 2010, India had agreed to pay USD 295 million towards the preliminary design of the fighter, called in India as Perspective Multi-role Fighter (PMF).


    The two sides are also expected to discuss the upgrade of SU-30 MKI, India's front line fighter aircraft. Russia is also eyeing the multi-billion dollar deal for P75-I project of India under which six conventional submarines are to be built with Air Independent Propulsion systems. With deals over USD 12 billion in kitty this month, including leasing of a second nuclear submarine, Russia hopes to bag more projects as it termed itself as not just a business partner but an "ally" who stood by India in its "darkest hours".

    Read more at: http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/cu...ies-today_7830081.html?utm_source=ref_article
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    Russia, India further Bond Friendship Over Missiles and Submarines

    Post  Pinto on Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:46 pm

    (Bloomberg) -- Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Russian President Vladimir Putin have sought to correct a decade-long decline in their defense ties, reestablishing Moscow as New Delhi’s closest military partner.

    Putin and Modi on Oct. 15 inked four big ticket defense deals worth over $10 billion when they met in Goa earlier this month.

    Under the deals -- the commercial details of which were discussed on Wednesday in a closed door meeting between their defense ministers, according to India’s defense ministry -- Moscow will supply India with S-400 Triumf air defense missiles that Russia has previously exported only to China.

    It will also deliver four Admiral Grigorovich-class warships and build military helicopters through a joint venture in India.

    Minister of Defence Manohar Parrikar met with Russian counterpart Sergei Shoigu in New Delhi, co-chairing an annual meeting of the Inter-Governmental Commission on Military-Technical Cooperation.
    The two discussed joint projects such as the fifth generation fighter aircraft and the upgrading of the Sukhoi combat plane in the Indian Air Force’s inventory. They also dealt with the establishment of agreements and joint ventures signed on the sidelines of the BRICS summit in Goa, including the frigates and military helicopters.


    "Russia is India’s time tested and closest partner and it will continue to remain our primary defense partner," Parrikar told the meeting on Wednesday, according to the Ministry of Defence.


    If the cost negotiations for the S-400 missiles are completed within a year and the commercial deal is signed, they could be delivered in 2020, the ministry said.

    The $4-billion deal for the multi-purpose 4,000-tonne frigates involves building two in Russia, with the rest constructed in India under Modi’s “Make in India” project aimed at stimulating domestic manufacturing.

    Moscow has also agreed to lease a nuclear-powered submarine to India, according to Russian media reports. India’s navy has operated a Russian-origin nuclear-powered submarine of the same class since 2012 under a nearly $1 billion, 10-year lease.

    Even with such significant Russian investment, the U.S. remains the largest arms supplier to India with over $15 billion in orders in the last decade as well as a defense logistics agreement signed earlier this year.

    http://www.bloombergquint.com/business/2016/10/26/russia-india-deepen-friendship-over-missiles-and-submarines
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    India Russia to remain main defence ally: Manohar Parrikar

    Post  Pinto on Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:10 am

    Brushing aside Russian concerns that India may be drifting towards the US, particularly after the signing of the Logistics Exchange Memorandum of Agreement with the US providing access to Americans to Indian military bases, defence minister Manohar Parrikar said Indo-Russian friendship had stood the test of time.


    “Russia is India’s time-tested and closest partner and it will continue to remain our primary defence partner,” Parrikar said in his opening remarks at the 16th meeting of the India-Russia Intergovern-mental Commission on Military-Technical Co-operation (IRIGC-MTC).


    However, he sought a more focused military-to-military cooperation. “While our military technical cooperation is progressing well, I feel that the traditional military-to-military cooperation needs more focus. The pace and depth of our exchanges at the level of chiefs, training of personnel in each other’s institutions, joint military exercises between all armed forces should be enhanced.”


    On October 15, India and Russia signed 16 agreements on the sidelines of the Brics Summit in Goa which included supply of the powerful S-400 Triumf air defence systems, four new guided missile stealth frigates and setting up a joint venture to jointly manufacture Kamov 226T helicopters.


    But the Russian media had reported that what was not made public in the announcement was a $2 billion deal to lease a multipurpose Project 971 nuclear submarine to India from the Russian Navy. While Parrikar led the Indian side, his counterpart General Sergey Shoigu led the Russian delegation.


    The Russian media quoted Shoigu as saying that the two sides discussed issues pertaining to after-sales service of previously supplied military equipment.


    http://www.asianage.com/india/russia-remain-main-defence-ally-manohar-parrikar-222
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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  miketheterrible on Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:21 pm

    India wants to buy 464 of the T-90MS

    Cant post link just yet. Article can be found on VPK.name

    As announced on 31 October 2016, the Indian version of the portal network "MailOnline" British newspaper "Daily Mail", the Indian army plans to buy 464 of the newest Russian tank T-90MS development of JSC "NPK "Uralvagonzavod". Discussing the contract with a value of 13488 crore rupees (about 2 billion U.S. dollars) must include an Assembly of tanks (apparently. part specified number) in the Indian enterprise Heavy Vehicles Factory (HVF) in Avadi near Chennai.


    This purchase is approved by the high command of the Indian army, and soon must be approved by the Council for defence procurement, led by defence Minister of India Manohar parrikar of the.


    The acquisition of 464 tanks T-90MS will allow in a relatively short period of time (three to four years) to equip them ten tank regiments of the Indian army deployed on the Western border of India with Pakistan. Now, the Indian army has approximately 850 tanks T-90S tanks, which are equipped with 18 tank regiments.

    Review bmpd. As can be seen, the proposed purchase of India T-90MS initiated by the slow pace of license production at HVF in Avadi T-90S tanks. A total of three agreements with the Russian side India in 2001, 2006 and 2007, contracted 1657 T-90S tanks, of which 248 were supplied ready-made "Uralvagonzavod" (UVZ), 409 were collected in Avadi from Russian kits, and 1000 are manufactured there under license (with a planned period to 2020). However, given the fact that now the Indian army has only 850 T-90S tanks, it is obvious that during the licensed production since 2009, the factory HVF was able to produce only about 200 T-90S tanks, and, according to Indian sources by 2020 will be able to build no more than 400 tanks.


    Thus, to accelerate the replenishment of the tank Park, India again in 2007, will resort to direct purchase of tanks in Russia (now the new improved T-90ms), some of which, apparently, will come ready with Uralvagonzavod, and others - to gather HVF of the supply from DC kits.
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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  George1 on Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:42 am

    Contract signed for the supply to India of another two AWACS command and control aircrafts A-50EI

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2275031.html
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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:53 am

    Pinto wrote:Ajay Banerjee

    this means it is again Putin´s fault? :d

    Pinto wrote:
    Tribune News Service

    New Delhi, October 15

    The agreement between India and Russia on military equipment purchase is being tipped as a “game-changer” as it further cements the five-decade-old ties between the two nations.
    The outcome of the Narendra Modi-Vladimir Putin bilateral meeting in Goa this afternoon will be read with keen interest among military observers in China, Pakistan, the US, Japan and Europe.


    Every time there is talk about mutual cooperation its definitely good. But once I hear - Russia and india joined forces to build SJ-100 together and export to 3rd countries it would be great.
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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  George1 on Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:28 am

    Implementation of the contract for the supply of tank shots "Mango" in India

    As reported in a press release Group "Tehmash" Rostec State Corporation, the company successfully implemented a contract for the supply to India of tank shots 3VBM-17 "Mango". By agreement of the parties, the transfer of ammunition is carried out in two stages. India received in 2016, the first batch of shells. Delivery of the second batch is scheduled for February 2017.



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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  George1 on Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:51 am

    Russia completed the delivery of MiG-29K fighters to India on contract
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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  George1 on Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:04 am

    India’s portfolio of defense orders from Russia exceeds $4 bln

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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  JohninMK on Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:31 pm

    Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation Deputy Director said that Russia and India have agreed a draft contract for the joint development of the fifth-generation fighter aircraft, the Russian side is ready for its signing.

    BENGALURU (India) (Sputnik) – Russia and India have agreed a draft contract for the joint development of the fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA), the Russian side is ready for its signing, Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSMTC) Deputy Director Vladimir Drozhzhov told Sputnik Tuesday.

    "Russian and Indian experts agreed and initialed the draft contract on the design work on the creation of prospective multifunctional fighter. The Russian side is ready to sign the contract. We expect the decision of our Indian partners on this issue, " Drozhzhov said.

    He noted that the volume of investments in the project was the subject of negotiations.


    https://sputniknews.com/world/201702141050663783-russia-india-fighter-jet/
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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  George1 on Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:56 am

    Russia to repair thirty Indian Mi-17-1B helicopters

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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  max steel on Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:25 pm

    India's plans to buy strategic Russian weapons are in jeopardy   Rolling Eyes


    India’s plans to procure strategic defence equipment from Russia including contracts of $5.5 billion for shipbuilding appear to be in jeopardy because Russian firms are unable to furnish the requisite guarantees from Indian banks owing to sanctions imposed by the US.

    This has raised concerns in India over procurement of the S-400 missile shield as well, which is sorely needed to seal the country’s airspace with Pakistan, said people familiar with the matter.

    Russia had in October last year signed an inter-governmental agreement with India for the sale of four Project 1135.6 class stealth frigates, two of which are to be made in India. The deal also involves creating shipbuilding infrastructure in India. Besides, Russia will be a key contender in an upcoming tender for a new class of conventional submarines under the P75I project of the Indian Navy. Both these projects seem to have hit a roadblock due to the US-imposed sanctions.

    As per Indian rules, all foreign vendors of defence equipment need to furnish guarantees from designated Indian banks before bidding for any project.

    However, with the US-imposed Specially Designated Nationals (SDN) sanctions on Russia’s United Shipbuilding Corporation, which were extended last year to include all entities attached to the company, Indian banks are not in a position to grant guarantees for the contracts.

    “No Indian bank can deal with any entity on the SDN list as this will get them into major trouble with the US. As international transactions involve trade in dollars, no bank can afford to be noncompliant with the sanctions list,” an official told ET on condition of anonymity.

    The matter can be resolved only if India amends its procurement rules to give Russian entities special exemption from the clause mandating bank guarantees, the people cited earlier said.

    The last deal India signed with a Russian shipyard was to overhaul its Kilo class submarines at the Zvezdochka shipyard.

    Two Indian submarines are already undergoing the life extension programme. However, Zvezdochka too was named in the extended list of sanctions by the US late last year.

    One of India’s biggest deals with Russia till date, for the S-400 missile shield, too faces uncertainty due to the sanctions. Almaz-Antey, which manufacturers the cutting-edge missile shield, is also on the SDN list, making it impossible for Indian banks and even private sector companies that have other overseas interests to deal with it.

    “India may need to change its rules to allow the Russian companies to furnish guarantees either directly from Russian banks or have some other arrangements if these projects have to go through,” the official said.

    Asenior team from Russia is expected to discuss the matter with the Indian side later this month. Russia has traditionally been India’s largest military supplier, accounting for most major purchases by the air force, army and navy.

    This position has, however, been strongly contested, with the US inking large deals in the past five years that have taken it to the top position.

    India’s plans for military acquisitions in the future envisage mostly joint development and production of equipment domestically with assistance from foreign vendors.


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    Post  Svyatoslavich on Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:42 pm

    Good opportunity to see where India stands. Is it a Russian ally, or a US stooge?
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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:31 pm

    Svyatoslavich wrote:Good opportunity to see where India stands. Is it a Russian ally, or a US stooge?

    Cant they just use a Rupee-Rouble transaction and not involve the U.S. Dollar?
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    Post  miketheterrible on Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:59 pm

    Svyatoslavich wrote:Good opportunity to see where India stands. Is it a Russian ally, or a US stooge?

    India is a nation of backstabbing whores in reality. They are so corrupt they can't remember something 20 years ago of Russia sticking its neck out for India.

    Don't be surprised if the deals don't go through. Expect Russia to retaliate against India in form of cutting deals with India's enemies and pushing countries away from India (make deals with Sri Lanka and Bangladesh). And then watch India squirm as they know they are screwed with half of their equipment and will have to buy US and French which has massive strings attached.

    Though this is a wake-up call for Russia to get their business in order and make their banks more aggressive internationally. Maybe even lift the stupid sanctions on Iran. And forget about India's crying when dealing with Pakistan and others.
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    Post  Viktor on Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:06 am

    Svyatoslavich wrote:Good opportunity to see where India stands. Is it a Russian ally, or a US stooge?

    I have read that the problems mentioned in the article is the precise reason why India is changing its legislation. We will know pretty soon.
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    Modi looks to pacify Putin; expedites multi-billion dollar defence deals after Russia’s growing bonhomie with Pakistan

    Post  Tsavo Lion on Fri May 12, 2017 2:43 pm

    In fact, only three of the eight Tu-142M aircraft inducted were airworthy when retired.
    http://www.aviationanalysis.net/2017/03/indian-navy-retires-tu-142m-maritime-patrol-aircraft.html?m=0
    Three of eight retired Tu-142Ms to flown to naval establishments as historical static displays. Decision to be taken on the others.
    https://twitter.com/livefist/status/846404080771715074
    I won't be surprised if Russia gets some of them back and some museum(s) in the USA acquires the type as well! IL-38SD MPA will probably stay, while the older IL-38s upgraded or retired. Unless a decision is made to order more, they'll get 12 P-8s from USA total:
    http://www.janes.com/article/69129/indian-navy-retires-fleet-of-tu-142m-maritime- patrol-aircraft
    Indian Navy’s naked underbelly that no amount of nostalgia can cover up http://www.dailyo.in/politics/indian-navy-submarines-asw-helicopters-warfare/story/1/16446.html
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    Arun Jaitley to lead military delegation to Russia, defence projects worth $10.5 billion to be final

    Post  Pinto on Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:22 pm

    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...lion-to-be-finalised/articleshow/59230103.cms

    Defence minister Arun Jaitley will be leading a high-powered military delegation to Novosibirsk and Moscow this week, at a time when Russia is desperate to wrest back from the US its long-standing numero uno position in the lucrative Indian arms market.

    Jaitley is slated to hold wide-ranging discussions with the Russian deputy PM Dmitry Rogozin and defence minister General Sergey Shoygu during the first India-Russia science technology commission and the 17th inter-governmental commission on military-technical cooperation during his visit from June 20 to 23. It comes just before PM Narendra Modi travels to the US on June 25-26 for his first meeting with US prez Donald Trump.

    Though India has increasingly turned to the US for mega arms deals in recent years, Russia can take solace from the fact that defence projects worth around $10.5 billion are now on the verge of being finalised with it. These range from the acquisition of five S-400 Triumf advanced air defence missile systems, four Grigorivichclass frigates and 200 Kamov-226T light helicopters as well as the lease of a second nuclear-powered submarine after INS Chakra.




    But India is yet to be convinced about the economic and technical viability of going in for the multi-billion dollar joint development and production of a fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) called the Sukhoi T-50 or PAK-FA with Russia.

    As reported by TOI earlier, India will ink the long pending final R&D contract for the FGFA -it will require an estimated $25 billion to induct 127 such single-seat jets -only if there is extensive transfer of technology and “benefits“ for the indigenous plan develop its own advanced medium combat air craft (AMCA). “The cost-benefit analysis is still under way ,“ said a source.

    But the news is much better on other fronts. With the joint venture on the $1 billion project to manufacture 200 Russian Kamov Ka-226T light utility helicopters in India finally firming up, sources said the RFP (request for proposal) for the project will be issued soon. “The JV will then submit its techno-commercial proposal,“ said a source.

    Similarly , negotiations on the $5.5 billion acquisition of five S-400 Triumf systems, which can destroy hostile aircraft, stealth fighters, missiles and drones at ranges up to 400-km, are now in the final stages. “The deal should be finalized within this year. Three of the S-400 systems are meant for the west (read Pakistan) and two for the east (China) to plug gaps in our air defence coverage,“ said the source.

    India, of course, is also on course to acquire the second nuclear-powered submarine on lease from Russia. Indian Navy had inducted the first Akula-II submarine, christened INS Chakra, on a 10-year lease from Russia in April 2012, under a secret $900 million deal inked way back in January 2004. Jaitley is being accompanied by defence secretary Sanjay Mitra, defence production secretary A K Gupta, DRDO chief S Christopher, BrahMos chief Sudhir Mishra as well as top military officials like Lt-Gen S K Patyal, Air Marshal R Nambiar and Vice Admiral G S Pabby , among others.
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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  Pinto on Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:25 pm

    So we will soon know what's going to happen with FGFA

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