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    T-72 ΜΒΤ modernisation and variants

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    Post  ahmedfire Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:11 pm

    Hole wrote:This has already been debunked. The unit that prepared the missiles made a mistake. A costly one.

    Could you specify which mistake they did ? i supposed the choosed crews for a show are at least a good crews .
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    Post  ahmedfire Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:51 pm


    Nice shots by different platforms including T-72 on vehicles of mock terrorists

    https://www.facebook.com/mod.mil.rus/videos/309470863648134/?t=3

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    T-72 ΜΒΤ modernisation and variants - Page 25 Empty Uralvagonzavod supplied the Russian Ministry of Defense with upgraded T-72B3 tanks.

    Post  lyle6 Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:13 pm

    Uralvagonzavod, which is part of the Rostekh State Corporation, sent a batch of upgraded T-72B3 tanks to the Russian Ministry of Defense. The combat vehicles received a new powerful engine, a modern fire control system, a rear view camera and a Mehvod display complex.

    The work was carried out as part of the state defense order, under which the T-72B tanks received from the Remfund underwent an overhaul and deep upgrade to the T-72B3 level. During the development of the T-72 tank, the designers laid down a significant upgrade potential, which is now being actively used.

    The upgrade affected almost all systems, which resulted in improved maneuverability and increased firepower and protection. One of the main solutions is to equip the vehicle with additional protection modules in the so-called soft case, which increased the armor resistance without significantly increasing the weight of the tank.

    The T-72B3 is also equipped with a new high-power power plant, a rear view camera, a modern digital communication system, and a mechanic-driver display complex. The combat vehicle is equipped with a new fire control system with a target follow-through automatic weapon, which allows to significantly reduce the time spent on training gunners-operators without reducing the effectiveness of firing. The Russian-made thermal imaging channels have the same characteristics as those previously installed in foreign countries.

    Each tank has passed acceptance tests, during which officers of the military mission personally checked all systems from the driver's, gunner-operator's and commander's positions. As a result, the combat vehicles were accepted by the customer.

    https://rostec.ru/news/uralvagonzavod-postavil-minoborony-rossii-modernizirovannye-tanki-t-72b3/

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    Post  lancelot Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:44 am

    I don't get it. I thought they were switching to the T-72B3M.
    Are these plain T-72B3s? The upgraded engine talk suggests these are T-72B3Ms.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:54 am

    lancelot wrote:I don't get it. I thought they were switching to the T-72B3M.
    Are these plain T-72B3s? The upgraded engine talk suggests these are T-72B3Ms.

    It is the Obr 16 instead of Obr 11.

    People were misled by the special TB model and think the M has a second independent TC viewer.
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    Post  franco Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:32 am

    I don't think they either care or bother with explaining the difference. There seems to be a good chance that that the first 300 or so of what are called the T-72B3 may actually have been the T-72B2, which may be more in line with the T-72B3M. It is never simple tracking these changes.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:55 am

    franco wrote:I don't think they either care or bother with explaining the difference. There seems to be a good chance that that the first 300 or so of what are called the T-72B3 may actually have been the T-72B2, which may be more in line with the T-72B3M. It is never simple tracking these changes.

    B2's would have been very characteristic. No B2 ever made it to serial.
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    Post  franco Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:04 pm

    B2's were used the first Army games if my memory serves me correctly.
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    Post  Isos Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:49 pm

    It was meant to face m1 abrams and leopard 1 on european countryside head on.

    It was not meant to face m1a2 with total air domination with thermals with outdated rounds and no optics in a storm in the middle of the desert. Even less designed to face ATGM on a buildings in the middle of a city.

    Technically speaking it has some bad points however. Crew sitting on ammo. Rear speed very bad. Not very powerfull engine. Compact so any hit would make the ammo explode. T-80U was much better. And they didn't correct those mistakes on first t-90, only on t-90MS.


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    Post  lyle6 Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:48 am

    In what way is the Ayy'Brapps any better? It has most if not all ammo sitting within the turret, a location far more likely to be hit than any other on the tank. Any penetrating hit through the frontal armor has a very high chance of punching through the measly thick ammo doors immediately behind, allowing the crews a nice hot dose of propellant gases as the ammo vents after being set alight by the outgoing projectile. M1 crews should be thanking their lucky stars the Russians never made it a habit of exporting their very best ammo to their clients or even non-neutered domestic articles, as those would have surely gave a lot of them very, very bad ends.

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    T-72 ΜΒΤ modernisation and variants - Page 25 Empty The Russian army will receive more than 800 tanks and other armored vehicles this year

    Post  The_Observer Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:05 pm

    "By the end of this year, more than 800 units of armored vehicles are planned to be delivered to the formations and military units of the ground forces of the RF Armed Forces," the RF Ministry of Defense said in a statement.
    The military said that the military-industrial complex will transfer to the Ministry of Defense modern and modernized models of armored vehicles, which have proven themselves in various climatic zones.
    "The troops will receive more than 90 modern T-72B3, T-72B3M tanks, about 80 T-80BVM units with a gas turbine power plant, a batch of T-90M" Proryv "tanks, some of which will be transferred by the manufacturer to the Kazan Higher Tank Command School for training future tank officers, "- the message says.
    "More than 120 BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles, over 280 modernized BMP-2 with a Berezhok fighting compartment, as well as about 300 armored personnel carriers BTR-82A and BTR-82AM will be delivered to formations and military units," the Russian Defense Ministry said.


    https://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=545964&lang=RU

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