


http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2014/01/blog-post_254.html?m=1
zg18 wrote:30 T-72B3 transferred to Eastern MD
volna wrote:zg18 wrote:30 T-72B3 transferred to Eastern MD
Nice photos,thanks!
I've a question on T-72B3:
Does it fitted with the new 2A46M-5 gun?
TR1 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5F-TJuKclg#t=37
Russian T-72Bs arrive in Crimea, while T-64s are being sent back to Ukraine.
The tanks look immaculate, I suspect these are some of the T-72s kapremont-ed and sent in replacement of retired T-80s.
Would make sense given the wild numbers of supposedly modernized T-72B3s the media has been throwing around.
I would've thought T-72B3s would be a priority for Crimea, minimum.
Vympel wrote:TR1 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5F-TJuKclg#t=37
Russian T-72Bs arrive in Crimea, while T-64s are being sent back to Ukraine.
The tanks look immaculate, I suspect these are some of the T-72s kapremont-ed and sent in replacement of retired T-80s.
Would make sense given the wild numbers of supposedly modernized T-72B3s the media has been throwing around.
You've got a time-stamp in that link there. What's "kapremont-ed"?
Its disappointing they're sending basic Kontakt-ERA T-72Bs there - without even Kontakt-V. I would've thought T-72B3s would be a priority for Crimea, minimum.
EDIT: wait - is Ukraine actually allowing Russia to train in tanks? Or are these going to be shipped across the Kerch strait?
GarryB wrote:I would've thought T-72B3s would be a priority for Crimea, minimum.
Such vehicles are only likely to face Ukrainian forces... what does the Ukraine have that would require a better tank?
GarryB wrote:
Such vehicles are only likely to face Ukrainian forces... what does the Ukraine have that would require a better tank?
TR1 wrote:
Kapitalnyi Remont- Capital Repairs- basically a major overhaul on a vehicle that has otherwise expired. By itself it might include no modernization or only small additions.
Vympel wrote:TR1 wrote:
Kapitalnyi Remont- Capital Repairs- basically a major overhaul on a vehicle that has otherwise expired. By itself it might include no modernization or only small additions.
Ah good. Speaking of upgrades - is the T-72B3 created solely from T-72Bs equipped with Kontakts-5 ERA, or do they take any T-72B, and by the time they're done, its equipped with Kontakts-5?
(because I know T-72BA tanks with the wind sensor etc could be created from both T-72B w/ Kontakts and T-72B w/ Kontakts-5, but they never upgraded the ERA from Kontakts to Kontakts-5 in that instance)
Werewolf wrote:Vympel wrote:TR1 wrote:
Kapitalnyi Remont- Capital Repairs- basically a major overhaul on a vehicle that has otherwise expired. By itself it might include no modernization or only small additions.
Ah good. Speaking of upgrades - is the T-72B3 created solely from T-72Bs equipped with Kontakts-5 ERA, or do they take any T-72B, and by the time they're done, its equipped with Kontakts-5?
(because I know T-72BA tanks with the wind sensor etc could be created from both T-72B w/ Kontakts and T-72B w/ Kontakts-5, but they never upgraded the ERA from Kontakts to Kontakts-5 in that instance)
Kontakt isn't used since early 80s.
Kontakt 5 is standard and Kaktus,Relikt are the new ERA's.
magnumcromagnon wrote:Werewolf wrote:Vympel wrote:TR1 wrote:
Kapitalnyi Remont- Capital Repairs- basically a major overhaul on a vehicle that has otherwise expired. By itself it might include no modernization or only small additions.
Ah good. Speaking of upgrades - is the T-72B3 created solely from T-72Bs equipped with Kontakts-5 ERA, or do they take any T-72B, and by the time they're done, its equipped with Kontakts-5?
(because I know T-72BA tanks with the wind sensor etc could be created from both T-72B w/ Kontakts and T-72B w/ Kontakts-5, but they never upgraded the ERA from Kontakts to Kontakts-5 in that instance)
Kontakt isn't used since early 80s.
Kontakt 5 is standard and Kaktus,Relikt are the new ERA's.
Is there any news of new generation ERA for Armata platforms? Will Kurganets have ERA? Also whats the advantage of Relikt and Kaktus over Kontakt 5? I know Kontakt has a proven record; in a joint effort between Germany and America on a tank testing ground in West Germany, Kontakt has proven itself very effective at defeating NATO HEAT and APFSDS rounds of that generation, forcing NATO to redesign their rounds!
Zivo wrote:magnumcromagnon wrote:Werewolf wrote:Vympel wrote:TR1 wrote:
Kapitalnyi Remont- Capital Repairs- basically a major overhaul on a vehicle that has otherwise expired. By itself it might include no modernization or only small additions.
Ah good. Speaking of upgrades - is the T-72B3 created solely from T-72Bs equipped with Kontakts-5 ERA, or do they take any T-72B, and by the time they're done, its equipped with Kontakts-5?
(because I know T-72BA tanks with the wind sensor etc could be created from both T-72B w/ Kontakts and T-72B w/ Kontakts-5, but they never upgraded the ERA from Kontakts to Kontakts-5 in that instance)
Kontakt isn't used since early 80s.
Kontakt 5 is standard and Kaktus,Relikt are the new ERA's.
Is there any news of new generation ERA for Armata platforms? Will Kurganets have ERA? Also whats the advantage of Relikt and Kaktus over Kontakt 5? I know Kontakt has a proven record; in a joint effort between Germany and America on a tank testing ground in West Germany, Kontakt has proven itself very effective at defeating NATO HEAT and APFSDS rounds of that generation, forcing NATO to redesign their rounds!
Armata should use Relikt. IIRC Relikt has multiple layers of explosives and other material sandwiched together to form a large block. Kontakt 5 only has 3 layers, a steel plate on the back, the explosives, than a front steel plate. I believe "Kaktus" is the same thing as Relikt, but is just the name given to the layout of relikt when it's used as integral armor instead of add-on armor as we seen on Object 640.
flamming_python wrote:Zivo wrote:magnumcromagnon wrote:Werewolf wrote:Vympel wrote:TR1 wrote:
Kapitalnyi Remont- Capital Repairs- basically a major overhaul on a vehicle that has otherwise expired. By itself it might include no modernization or only small additions.
Ah good. Speaking of upgrades - is the T-72B3 created solely from T-72Bs equipped with Kontakts-5 ERA, or do they take any T-72B, and by the time they're done, its equipped with Kontakts-5?
(because I know T-72BA tanks with the wind sensor etc could be created from both T-72B w/ Kontakts and T-72B w/ Kontakts-5, but they never upgraded the ERA from Kontakts to Kontakts-5 in that instance)
Kontakt isn't used since early 80s.
Kontakt 5 is standard and Kaktus,Relikt are the new ERA's.
Is there any news of new generation ERA for Armata platforms? Will Kurganets have ERA? Also whats the advantage of Relikt and Kaktus over Kontakt 5? I know Kontakt has a proven record; in a joint effort between Germany and America on a tank testing ground in West Germany, Kontakt has proven itself very effective at defeating NATO HEAT and APFSDS rounds of that generation, forcing NATO to redesign their rounds!
Armata should use Relikt. IIRC Relikt has multiple layers of explosives and other material sandwiched together to form a large block. Kontakt 5 only has 3 layers, a steel plate on the back, the explosives, than a front steel plate. I believe "Kaktus" is the same thing as Relikt, but is just the name given to the layout of relikt when it's used as integral armor instead of add-on armor as we seen on Object 640.
Relikt's been around for a while - ain't there anything newer in the works?
And Kaktus I think operates on a different principle than Relikt, I may be wrong though.
Werewolf wrote:
Kontakt isn't used since early 80s.
Kontakt 5 is standard and Kaktus,Relikt are the new ERA's.
Vympel wrote:Werewolf wrote:
Kontakt isn't used since early 80s.
Kontakt 5 is standard and Kaktus,Relikt are the new ERA's.
That doesn't actually answer my question though, sorry.
To reiterate - does the T-72B3 upgrade derive solely from T-72B tanks already equipped with Kontakts-V, or do they also take T-72B tanks without Kontakts-V and equip them with it during the upgrade process? Because its clear the T-72B3 only has Kontakts-V, not Relikt.
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