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    Post  Arrow Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:03 pm

    I have a feeling that Trump's presidency is going to be a wild ride. He doesn't seem like a stable person. He threatened China that he would destroy it with sanctions. Generally, scaring everyone who is somehow not on the same page with the US. It's doubtful that he would come to an agreement with Russia.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:10 pm

    Don't pay too much attention to what he says.
    He is a businessman who is opening negotiation positions at the moment.
    The fact that he is unstable - or perhaps calling it milder, follows the last mouth close to his ear - was proven.

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    Post  Arrow Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:17 pm

    We'll see, in my opinion Trump can only offer freezing the conflict in its current positions. Which is currently in the West's interest because Ukraine is starting to fall asleep faster and lose ground and the army can fall apart quite quickly, casus September 2014.
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    Post  lyle6 Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:25 pm

    Thing is, Trump never fulfilled any of his promises. Overhyped windbag's only notable foreign policy accomplishment is unleashing Russian IRBMs in the wild. Rest is just a continuation of Obama. Razz

    You're pumping yourselves for nothing. The west will take all the Ls it can take, and then some, while all the goals of the SMO will be achieved.

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    Post  Regular Mon Dec 23, 2024 5:37 pm

    Did anyone of you used Deepstate UA maps?
    It seems that deepstate will be getting deepthroated by agent Syrsky

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    Post  kvs Mon Dec 23, 2024 5:46 pm



    Ritter lays out the lunatics running the asylum scenario for the USA.

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Mon Dec 23, 2024 6:19 pm

    @LegitTargets
    🚨🇷🇺🇺🇦 BREAKING: RUSSIA successfully BOMBED the Control Room of Ukraine's Secret Service (SBU).

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Dec 23, 2024 6:20 pm

    This map shows quite well how once all the built up areas in the hilly ares of the east are captured then it is open and flat, with limited rivers, country ahead of them.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Dec 23, 2024 6:24 pm

    The SBU strike video above is not new, i.e. today or last night. 

    It is probably the strike a few days ago.

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Mon Dec 23, 2024 7:02 pm

    Kyiv has requested a permanent presence of UN representatives at key substations, hoping this will deter Russian strikes,” the newspaper reports.

    As far as I understand, those stations are "legitimate" targets in a war. If UN officials go there trying to use their diplomatic status as a shield they become instead belligerent and a target as much as a Ukrainian colonel or general would be.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon Dec 23, 2024 8:07 pm

    "Thing is, Trump never fulfilled any of his promises. Overhyped windbag's only notable foreign policy accomplishment is unleashing Russian IRBMs in the wild. Rest is just a continuation of Obama. Razz

    You're pumping yourselves for nothing. The west will take all the Ls it can take, and then some, while all the goals of the SMO will be achieved."

    This is quite literally a BS lie, its fine to not like him or whatever but going around saying such complete BS is just counter productive to all standards

    if we go by his first term he did keep most of his promises the stuff he couldn't was he got blocked by Dems and couldn't get it through.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Dec 23, 2024 8:12 pm

    Purely by accident I came across this analysis I can't remember seeing before. Its the explosions that happened on 13 May 2023 in western Ukraine on the outskirts of Khmelnytskyi. It was 3 monster blasts (always worth a revisit Very Happy ) that looked a bit interesting as to what weapon caused them. Watch out for the third!


    Below is a reminder and this thread checks it out https://x.com/griimae/status/1764453373342785760


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    Post  lyle6 Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:04 pm

    These low level nuclear exchanges have been going on for a while. You can revisit every "ammo dump" explosion in the last 30 years - chances are its a tac. nuke.

    Not that it matters. Oreshnik just short circuited the path to escalation.

    Russia can inflict massive damage through "conventional" deep strikes well below the nuclear threshold and NATO would have no answer.

    Its death by a thousand cuts.
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    Post  ALAMO Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:07 pm

    They are nuking Syria now as well? scratch
    Geee! Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  higurashihougi Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:24 pm

    This is Kiev's claim of Russian forces in Kherson:

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    Post  ucmvulcan Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:31 pm

    needs more cowbell. . . .

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    Post  GarryB Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:37 pm

    Ukraine Takes Unconventional Steps to Avoid Energy Collapse – New York Times

    Anything that gets repaired can simply be hit again...

    Floating power plants can be sunk.

    Any UN representatives stupid enough to be near strategic legitimate military targets in an active war zone gets what they deserve...

    Calling it rubbish is a bridge too far in my opinion.

    It is worse than rubbish... it will be a serious financial drain on every force that operates them... they are slower and shorter ranged than most of the aircraft they will be replacing and with a much smaller payload unless they carry external ordinance which totally negates their entire reason for being used... their stealth.

    But it definitely doesn't fit the original goals at any level - which can be transferred to a general project failure.

    When HATO spends 5% of their GDP on defence and it doesn't cover the operational costs of their F-35s, then America will claim it is a success... based on the profit figures for the company that makes it.

    Presidential elections are a month ahead, they will stage some shit.

    The question no one can answer is... will it be a success like Maidan, or a failure like Georgia....

    I have a feeling that Trump's presidency is going to be a wild ride. He doesn't seem like a stable person. He threatened China that he would destroy it with sanctions. Generally, scaring everyone who is somehow not on the same page with the US. It's doubtful that he would come to an agreement with Russia.

    Like most western leaders though he does not think things through... his threat of 100% tariffs on imported goods is just going to make imported goods too expensive to buy so countries will likely stop exporting to the US or try to get their goods into the US by parallel imports or relabelling like the EU food producers pretended their food was a product of Turkey or other non sanctioned country... at the end of the day to start with US shop shelves will be empty until US businesses can fill the gap... they might never fill some gaps.

    Don't pay too much attention to what he says.
    He is a businessman who is opening negotiation positions at the moment.

    He might be bipolar... quite funny reading some of his posts at 3am though...

    We'll see, in my opinion Trump can only offer freezing the conflict in its current positions.

    Why do you think that?

    Have you forgotten his deal with withdraw from Afghanistan that the Biden administration had to implement.... they bitched and moaned and tried to delay permanently, but in the end they had to go. And it probably saved them a few hundred billion dollars to do that... over the next 10 years they are not there.

    I suspect he wont get what he wants and will just withdraw from project Ukraine.

    The west will take all the Ls it can take, and then some, while all the goals of the SMO will be achieved.

    And the western media will say it was totally successful because Russia is now isolated and lost 20 million men in the conflict... you have to dig down 80 years of soil layers but the remains are there... along with German remains...

    if we go by his first term he did keep most of his promises the stuff he couldn't was he got blocked by Dems and couldn't get it through.

    He promised to withdraw America from forever wars that do nothing to help America... he failed in Syria and Iraq and the Afghan withdrawal happened after he left office but that was him. However his main failure was relations with Russia for the benefit of the US. He promised cooperation with Russia to improve relations and also benefit the US and he was goaded into making things much much worse like a child.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:13 am

    https://responsiblestatecraft.org/elbridge-colby-pentagon-trump/

    Elbridge Colby is the policy man for the pentagon

    The dude wrote articles about how the US industry was devastated and couldn’t keep up with Russian production

    Basically look up his articles and he belongs to the so called “realist” camp

    He basically dooms that US artillery production is paltry, along with its logistics and sustainment capabilities

    Anyway - for those of you who continue to believe Trump will escalate - he just appointed the biggest Ukraine pessimist he could to head the pentagons policy

    He doesn’t even care about Iran much, seems he has a hard on for China

    He’s also the one who told Trump to call missile strikes on Russia stupid - this is the dude advising Trump on the moratorium on missile strikes

    https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-criticizes-ukraines-use-us-missiles-attacks-deep-into-russia-2024-12-12/

    For those crying bitches that wanted Putin to escalate for nothing, in 30 days I’m going to make fun of you for being such pussies

    The dude does not want nuclear escalation to protect Biden family scandals in Ukraine , the whole point is Ukraine is not trumps war - it was always Biden and his cadres who had corrupted goals with biolabs, Burisma, Blackrock and all that

    Trump has nothing to do with that- and he doesn’t care to risk annihilation to support bidens crime enterprise

    People totally misunderstand the driving forces of the US deep state and their motivations in Ukraine

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    Post  Arrow Tue Dec 24, 2024 9:34 am

    In 30 days some people will be convinced here that Trump will not give part of Ukraine to Russia or sign any major agreements with them other than freezing the conflict so that the West can start building new fortifications and continue to arm Ukraine. So he will not abandon the Ukraine project because the West has invested too much there. And still this belief in big agreements and deals with the USA Laughing Laughing Laughing The West probably hasn't fooled the Russians enough times for them to understand that. Let's not forget that it is the idea of ​​the savior of peace Trump to send NATO troops to the demarcation line in Donbas. That is, NATO troops in Donbas and under Crimea. Apart from NATO's ability to deploy such a number of troops. These are precisely Trump's ideas Laughing  Laughing Just wait for those great deals with Trump.


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    Post  PhSt Tue Dec 24, 2024 11:13 am

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    A lot of gullible fools still seem to fall victim to becoming NAziTO assets/ saboteurs inside Russia, perhaps punishment for being an agent of the West is not strong enough to deter such people. I believe its high time to introduce more harsher punishment for people working for NAziTO. Not only the perpetrator should be brought to justice but also their families. Fear is an important deterrent  attack

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:25 pm

    🇺🇦Ukrainian sources report that a bill to lower the draft age in Ukraine to 18 has already been developed and submitted to the Verkhovna Rada.

    So Ukraine is not on the verge of collapse ?

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    Post  The-thing-next-door Tue Dec 24, 2024 4:16 pm

    To those who say that Russia should respond to terrorism with terrorism

    I strongly disagree

    Indeed, Russia should not stoop to such levels, but rather strike nato directly.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Dec 24, 2024 6:48 pm

    Hero of Russia, Vladislav Golovin, call sign "Struna" (String), was elected Chief of the General Staff of the Yunarmiya (The All-Russian Military Patriotic Social Movement "Young Army" supported and funded by Ministry of Defence of Russia).

    Golovin was on the front lines from the first days of the SVO, commanding an airborne assault unit. In 2022, during a battle, covering a subordinate, he was wounded and lost a leg.

    This is the same guy with the red backpack who took Mariupol, who became a symbol of the Russian fighting spirit. It is very good that real patriots and veterans of the SVO now have a path to politics.
    - FRWL

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Dec 24, 2024 7:04 pm

    Fico is in Moscow, seems Trumps proposal got delivered and the Kremlin rejected Trumps proposal

    Now Putins counter is being sent with Fico to Trump

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    Post  ucmvulcan Tue Dec 24, 2024 7:55 pm

    Since any Russian assett anywhere on earth catching fire, sinking, or otherwise being destroyed is now super duper top secret and stealthy Ukrainian and NATO special ops, an oil factory in Cleveland caught fire yesterday, was it beyond super duper top secret and stealthy Russian, Venezuelan, Chinese, Iranian, or North Korean special ops or does the bullshit and scare mongering by the usual group of fear mongering dickheads who Stalin would have put against a wall only work one way?

    https://www.kcbd.com/2024/12/23/crews-responding-fire-ethanol-plant-levelland/

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