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    Syria situation after the fall of Baath regime #1

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Dec 08, 2024 7:08 pm


    Russia is actually harboring that loser maggot?

    Jesus Christ, birds of feather I guess... No

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    Post  sepheronx Sun Dec 08, 2024 7:09 pm

    These are Israel's guys so Israel will win out.

    This was all the agreements signed I guess. Russia keeps its bases in Syria, Israel gets what it wants and Turkey gets to go after Kurds. Iran's biggest lover in this

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Dec 08, 2024 7:14 pm

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    Most likely. It shows what Israel really thinks about these goatfuckers and they are being proactive.

    Apparently the militants moved onto the base and then 5 hours later the IAF destroyed it. Must have been a breakdown in communications Laughing

    The IAF seem to be destroying all Syrian military, research, scientific sites as well as military gear, picture of dead Pantsir, civilian documentation sites etc. 

    Perhaps they are intent on taking the civilisation infrastructure of Syria back to tribal times, making central control very difficult. The IAF announced that they really start work tonight.
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    Post  Kiko Sun Dec 08, 2024 7:14 pm

    Syria's Assad and His Family Arrive in Moscow - Source, 12.08.2024.

    Bashar al-Assad, the former president of Syria, arrived in Moscow with his family, where they were granted asylum by Russia on humanitarian grounds, according to a source in the Kremlin.

    "President Assad of Syria, with his family, has arrived in Moscow. Russia, based on humanitarian considerations, has granted them asylum," the source told RIA Novosti.

    The source added that Russia has always supported the pursuit of a political solution to the Syrian crisis.

    "Russia has always advocated for a political solution to the Syrian crisis. We believe that it is necessary to resume negotiations under the auspices of the UN," the source told the agency.

    Meanwhile, Russian officials are in contact with representatives of the armed Syrian opposition, "whose leaders have guaranteed the safety of Russian military bases and diplomatic missions in Syria," the source added.

    Moscow hopes to continue political dialogue to preserve the interests of the Syrian people and further develop the relations between Russia and Syria.

    https://sputnikglobe.com/20241208/syrias-assad-and-his-family-arrive-in-moscow---source-1121126068.html


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    Post  JohninMK Sun Dec 08, 2024 7:15 pm

    Dr Assad going back to his real vocation, as an eye surgeon?

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    Post  billybatts91 Sun Dec 08, 2024 7:16 pm

    If you actually think Russia will keep their bases there, I have a bridge to sell you!

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    Post  billybatts91 Sun Dec 08, 2024 7:28 pm

    Greater Israel is happening...

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sun Dec 08, 2024 7:33 pm

    Yep Russia will keep its bases as the opposition guaranteed it

    If they do anything funny Russia can just roast kebabs as they guaranteed the bases safety

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    Post  billybatts91 Sun Dec 08, 2024 7:36 pm

    Just like the peace deal was guaranteed in Syria, right? Come on, use your brain....

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    Post  Arrow Sun Dec 08, 2024 7:37 pm

    Post Arkanghelsk Today at 6:33 pm Yep Russia will keep its bases as the opposition guaranteed it If they do anything funny Russia can just roast kebabs as they guaranteed the bases safety wrote:

    The West guaranteed many things to Russia. You haven't learned that yet.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Dec 08, 2024 7:40 pm


    Dark Brandon is about to officiate his unexpected geopolitical victory on live TV


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    Post  billybatts91 Sun Dec 08, 2024 7:43 pm

    Aaaaaaaaand there it is lol...

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    Post  caveat emptor Sun Dec 08, 2024 7:49 pm

    Arkhangelsk
    Yep Russia will keep its bases as the opposition guaranteed it

    If they do anything funny Russia can just roast kebabs as they guaranteed the bases safety

    Only safety of the Russian servicemen is guaranteed. Bases will be evacuated. Hopefully, they'll evacuate everything that can be moved.

    Edit:
    I just want to add that this is a relatively favorable way out, Turkey is providing to Russia. Things could've turned much worse for Russian servicemen, especially ones isolated in distant bases. Russia has been bombarding goatfuckers for almost a decade and in this situation they would want to return a favor. So, kudos to Turkey!


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    Post  thegopnik Sun Dec 08, 2024 7:51 pm

    Wow still no satellite info and actual officials confirming it, thanks billy. Atleast we had Syrias opposition leader state he doesnt care that they are there also the liveUA map is still showing red where Russias bases are at.
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    Post  Kiko Sun Dec 08, 2024 7:51 pm

    Why are Israel and the US Salivating Over Syria’s Break-Up?, by Ekaterina Blinova for Sputnik. 12.08.2024.

    The situation in Syria remains complex but recent developments point to potential future scenarios, Stanislav Tarasov, a political analyst and expert on the Middle East and Caucasus region, told Sputnik.

    Why did regime change happen so quickly?

    Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has peacefully transferred power to the opposition in line with the Doha agreement days after the militants launched their advance.

    "An internal conspiracy was likely brewing within the Syrian leadership and military personnel," Tarasov suggested.

    Who will govern Syria?

    It is still unclear which opposition group will dominate. Tarasov argued that if the secular opposition prevails, Syria will have a secular government. Conversely, if Islamist factions take control, the country may see a Taliban*-style leadership.

    Why are Israel and the US interested in balkanizing Syria?

    Tarasov believes the odds of Syria's fragmentation are high, with potential scenarios including:

    • Turkiye taking control of Aleppo and Idlib

    • The Kurds establishing their own state with backing from Israel and the US

    • The rest of the country being divided into various enclaves.

    According to Tarasov, the US and Israel have already started implementing their plan for Syria's fragmentation, as shown by the ongoing conflict in Gaza.

    Regional ambitions and possible risks

    Tarasov claims that Israel may be planning to annex Gaza and the West Bank and to fragment Lebanon in order to weaken Lebanese Islamic resistance movement Hezbollah.

    *Under UN sanctions for terrorist activities

    https://sputnikglobe.com/20241208/why-are-israel-and-the-us-salivating-over-syrias-break-up-1121126981.html


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    Post  billybatts91 Sun Dec 08, 2024 7:55 pm

    thegopnik, you are a very naïve human being.
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    Post  billybatts91 Sun Dec 08, 2024 7:58 pm

    Greater Israel is happening...

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    Post  d_taddei2 Sun Dec 08, 2024 8:00 pm

    So Assad in Russia now, so will be just sit on whatever money he took with him and fester away to old age? Or will Russia use him as some middle east envoy?

    As for the Russian bases it still up in the air. It will really depend on what type of government is formed and which way they lean

    Nobody knows if it will turn into a terrorist haven, or a Libya style of chaos, or something better than what Assad was running. As for Kurds its also up for debate.
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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sun Dec 08, 2024 8:04 pm

    This is likely to be one of the biggest defeats suffered by the Multipolar World Order and it will become much bigger.

    This collapse, this self-abandonment, even this breaking out of Assad and Syria will have the most serious consequences for everyone in the resistance.

    All the people who had the hope that they could stand up to the West and the Zionists were betrayed tonight. Yes, almost sold.

    The Domino chain will trigger now and in the end Moscow will fall just like Damaksu did tonight.

    All efforts in Ukraine are in vain. The resistance was destroyed tonight.

    Iran only talked, but it did not act. Russia was just talking, making deals and selling Syria along with it. The IDF will now bomb every resistance and remnants of threats away.

    Lebanon follows, Iraq follows. Countries will fall and Russia will have to watch as well as the Mossad agents in Iran in the government and the military. They were so stupid and watched in Syria instead of making an internal coup to keep Syria.

    Failure across the board. This is criticism and I'm just disappointed at how easy it was for Russia and Iran to let the butter get off their bread here. Syria was the most important link, and in a few years the lemmings will also realize this.

    One should have brought loyal military men to the top in Syria when Assad was tired. It was far too important to leave it to the enemies.

    You can't play als gentlemen against an evil snake. Sometimes you have to be angry yourself. Otherwise you end up like Syria, Libya, Iraq, GAZA, etc.

    The statements from Russia and Iran are pathetic. Radical measures must be taken. This is especially true in the Russian Foreign Office. Negotiations with the West are always negotiations with the devil. He will never stick to it! So put an end to this! Send military and defend the coast, build up resistance there and keep the piece of land from where you can come back or at least Hezbollah can still give support,.

    Finally realize that Syria is and was the key. Otherwise you are lost like Syria! We are then lost! All of us!!!

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sun Dec 08, 2024 8:13 pm

    @stairwayto3dom
    🚨🇮🇷 Iranian Officials:

    “Iran warned Assad two months ago that HTS was preparing to make a move, but he dismissed the threat. So the Turkish Foreign Minister gave us assurances that nothing will take place, which turned out to be a lie. After HTS entered Western Aleppo, Iran expected Assad to ask for military assistance, and we were fully prepared to oblige with troops and whatever else was needed – but no such request came.

    After Aleppo fell, it became clear that Assad had no real intentions of staying in power, so we started to engage in diplomatic talks with the opposition, and arranged the safe exit of our troops from Syria. If the SAA does not fight, neither will we risk our soldiers' lives. Russia and the UAE had managed to convince him to step down, so there was nothing we could do.”
    https://x.com/stairwayto3dom/status/1865829379713999239

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    Post  George1 Sun Dec 08, 2024 8:14 pm

    Kiko wrote:Why are Israel and the US interested in balkanizing Syria?

    Tarasov believes the odds of Syria's fragmentation are high, with potential scenarios including:

    • Turkiye taking control of Aleppo and Idlib

    • The Kurds establishing their own state with backing from Israel and the US

    • The rest of the country being divided into various enclaves.

    According to Tarasov, the US and Israel have already started implementing their plan for Syria's fragmentation, as shown by the ongoing conflict in Gaza.

    Turkey also doesnt want a indepedent Kurdish state at their borders, so i think the next war is inevitable

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Sun Dec 08, 2024 8:17 pm

    It is still too early to say. We will have to wait till the end. What it can be said that you're paying a great price for it. Which is to be expected after so many mistakes.

    I'm afraid that the West - being ecstatic from its victory in Syria - will now push even harder in Ukraine. They saw how easily Russia was defeated in Syria and they are convinced that Russia is never going to retaliate no matter how much the West escalates (and Putin is to blame for this with his endless restraint!).

    I'm also afraid Russia will have to find a way to hit West directly (hopefully without causing WWIII) to secure its victory in Ukraine. The West is not going to allow a Russian victory to happen unless they are convinced that their own existence is in danger. Currently they are not.
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    Post  nomadski Sun Dec 08, 2024 8:19 pm

    About Russian ports and bases in the Med Sea , or any base outside of Russian territory . A base can be self sustaining or not . A self sufficient base , is best . Difficult to imagine ? Not if this base exists within a territory , with an industrial base . In this case then , it does not need an umbilical cord to mother nation .

    But most bases , or all bases can not be like this . They need to be within reach . But what if a base , like a valuable parcel that contains weapons for defence , is placed inside the house of the enemy ? An enemy , who is strong enough to stop you , from breaking into his house easily , to get such weapons .

    Logic dictates , that you preserve all weapons within reach , and not store them inside the house of the enemy . You then can use all forces , to break down the house of your enemy , that stands in the way .

    Turkey and Bosphorus , and Syria bases or Cuban bases is such a situation . All or most forces are needed to break through . If sufficient forces exist to allow breakthroughs along Bosphorus , then excess forces can disperse , with umbilical cord .

    The part of the equation , lacking in Syria , following the near defeat of extremism , was mass investment . Russia or Iran were not wealthy enough to do this . China was . If the Eastern economic union , is to succeed , then smart mass investments are needed in strategic locations . Simple military victories will not achieve this . The Americans learnt this in Afghanistan . Russia /Iran / China should learn this , and apply lessons in the Euro - Asian continent .

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