Future Possible Romania's Closer Relations With Russia.

@kvs: the globalists and the far-rights (Georgescu, AfD, National Front, Italian Neo-fascist...) are just different factions amongst the elites. Just like militarist Central and Axis vs the West in WW1 and WW2. The far-right represent the local factions of the super rich and elite who are at odd at the globalists due to conflict of interests, and they happen to attract the dwindling middle class whose modest business are endangered by the globalist manipulation, they also attract some of the proles who despise the current neo-liberal government to the point that any changes is welcomed.

But the far right's policy are clearly pro-elite, pro-business and have nothing to do with the demand and desire of the lower strata of the society.

For now, the far-rights court Russia so that they can use Russia as the leverage to get more benefit and power at the expense of the globalists. But then these far-rights can be bribed and brought by the globalists against Russia for the very same reason.

So no, I trust no one from the far-right. Just different color of the same sh*t.

Yeah pretty much this

Meloni was given some of what she wanted and bought off. I suspect Le Pen will be harder to deal with and will insist on some independence from Washington and the EU but ultimately she's completely for Western hegemony, and has indicated as much. Just by a slightly different West.

Now that neo-liberalism is suffering a crisis the mainstream will turn towards the right and court the nationalist vote. The Soros organizations will still continue to operate and court the migrants and shitlibs and LGBTs and whatever. The Western intelligence services will still continue to manipulate Muslims in their countries against Assad and China and so on. Different arms of the same establishment playing divide and rule among their own populations. The main thing is to maintain the policy against Russia, nothing else matters.

But for every potential Meloni there is an Orban too, who senses the winds correctly and wants to skip the sinking ship, or even try to knock some sense into it, as futile as that is. So I wouldn't write off this Georgescu dude until he gains power and has a chance to chart policy.

US Threatens Romania with Negative Security Consequences, by Anton Antonov for VZGLYAD. 12.05.2024.

State Department Press Secretary Miller Warns Romania of Negative Consequences of Rejecting Pro-Western Course.

If Romania's pro-Western and transatlantic course changes, the country faces negative consequences in the areas of security and investment, said US State Department spokesman Matthew Miller.

"The United States values ​​Romania's contribution as a strong NATO ally and partner in the European Union. Romania's hard-won progress in anchoring itself in the transatlantic community cannot be reversed by foreign actors trying to change Romania's foreign policy, distancing it from Western alliances," TASS quotes Miller as saying .

Miller noted that any changes in Romania’s political course could have serious negative consequences for cooperation with the United States “in the area of ​​security.”

He also warned that restrictions on foreign investment would discourage continued investment by American companies in Romania.

Miller said that the United States is closely monitoring the elections in Romania. "It is up to the Romanian people to decide who they will elect, and the United States does not interfere in that choice or that process," Miller assured. At the same time, the State Department's statement mentioned concerns about possible Russian interference in cyberspace and electoral processes in Romania.

As Vzglyad newspaper reported, the Constitutional Court of Romania approved the results of the first round of the presidential elections. Independent candidate Calin Georgescu won the first round, receiving almost 23% of the votes and advancing to the second round together with Elena Lasconi. Georgescu is skeptical about the West's support for Ukraine, the military actions in that country and the conflict with Russia, believing that Romania should maintain good relations with Russia. He also has a positive assessment of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

https://vz.ru/news/2024/12/5/1301658.html

The great thing is that the damage is done and it doesn't matter if every EU and HATO country suddenly had sensible people in charge... the west has lost Russia forever and China too... and there is no way the west are going to drop the sanctions so nothing on that front is going to change much.

I fully expect Russia to fight until Kiev collapses or their military does and when they do collapse why would Russia talk to the US or EU... they created the situation and they kept it going this long... no talks at all with them say I.

The great thing is that the damage is done and it doesn't matter if every EU and HATO country suddenly had sensible people in charge...

There is a thing that amuses me even better.
It seems that all the Soros sponsored NGOs founded, trained, and educated muppets have not lasted even one generation.
The peak of this madness seems to fade away, and in every single country where they have grabbed power in one way or another - it lasted one term at most. And were overthrown by the public voting.
The sole thing they can achieve now is trying to unleash civil unrest, carried by the sponsored crowd in most of the cases...

Washington is frightened by the emergence of a new rebel in Europe, by Evgeniy Pozdnyakov for VZGLYAD. 12.05.2024.

Experts explain US concerns over Romanian presidential elections.

The course of the presidential elections in Romania has shocked the United States. Against the backdrop of a possible victory for right-wing candidate Calin Georgescu, Washington is intimidating Bucharest by reducing investment and revising cooperation in the security sphere. In the republic itself, a large-scale information campaign has been launched against the politician. Why are the United States and its allies afraid of Georgescu coming to power and will he be able to achieve the presidency?

The United States  has threatened  Romania with "negative consequences" if the country changes its transatlantic course. State Department spokesman Matthew Miller stressed that the White House values ​​Bucharest's contribution to the development of NATO and the European Union, and any shifts in the republic's government could complicate the two countries' security partnership.

He also added that Romania's revision of its foreign policy could negatively affect foreign investment in the country. At the same time, the official statement of the State Department noted that Washington is concerned about possible "Russian interference" in the republic's electoral processes.

The toughness of the US position is dictated by the recent publication by the Romanian secret services of documents indicating undeclared external financing of the campaign of one of the participants in the second round of the presidential elections – Calin Georgescu. According to the publication  Realitatea , the data of the secret services are being checked by the country's prosecutor's office.

At the same time, European media admit that these funds were allegedly sent to the politician from Russia. Georgescu himself does not admit the accusations, calling the publication a fact indicating the "complete despair of the system." The presidential candidate of the republic also denied the information that he is allegedly a "fan of Putin."

"First of all, I am for the Romanians, as I have always been. I do not want to take Romania out of the EU or NATO. But we will negotiate about Romanian interests, we will stand on our feet, not on our knees. Our political class has never been able to negotiate, it has always had an inferiority complex in front of the West," he clarified his position.

Let us recall that on November 24, the first round of the presidential elections was held in Romania   . Georgescu won. He was supported by just under 23% of the population. Elena Lasconi, leader of the Union for the Rescue of Romania party, took second place with 19% of the votes.

The Vzglyad newspaper  reported in detail  on the main participants in the Romanian presidential elections. Thus, Lasconi was born in 1972 in Hateg. For a long time, she worked as a presenter on the regional radio T5 ABC. After moving to Pro TV, she covered the Kosovo war and the conflict in Afghanistan. She began her political career only in 2020, winning the elections for the head of the city of Campulung. In 2024, she was also successfully re-elected to this position.

Georgescu was born in 1962 in Bucharest. He worked in the Romanian Ministry of Environment in the 1990s and served as the UN Special Rapporteur on Human Rights and Hazardous Waste from 2010 to 2012. He has tried to run for Prime Minister several times. In recent years, he has often criticized the EU's position on the conflict in Ukraine.

“Overall, Miller’s statement should definitely be considered an attempt by the United States to interfere in the Romanian presidential elections.

Moreover, such a reaction can also be interpreted as fear. For Washington, Bucharest has long been an inconspicuous point on the outskirts of the collective West. Its commitment to the transatlantic course was not in doubt," said Vadim Trukhachev, associate professor at the Russian State University for the Humanities.

"However, Romania managed to "surprise" the White House. Against the backdrop of Georgescu's likely victory, the States had to urgently think about how exactly to rectify the situation. The Americans could not come up with anything better than rhetorical threats and large-scale media campaigns against the right-wing candidate," he notes.

"Of course, criticism of Georgescu in the US and EU media will continue. But still, there are only four days left until the second round of elections. This is a short period of time to change the opinion of a significant part of Romanian society. Most likely, those who wanted to give him their vote will not abandon the positions they outlined earlier," the interlocutor emphasizes.

"Why are the States so irritated by Bucharest's "insubordination"? NATO arms supplies to Ukraine are carried out through the territory of the republic. The American military base Deveselu is also located here. In addition, Washington is interested in Europe acting as a united front against Russia," the expert believes.

“The emergence of a new rebel in the Western camp will seriously affect the ideological situation in Brussels.

Hungary and Slovakia will have another important ally with whose help they will be able to speak louder about the need to maintain normal relations with Moscow,” he says.

"However, it is not worth overestimating the possible rise to power of Georgescu. Romania is a parliamentary-presidential republic. The opinion of the head of state is, of course, important, but any decision must be agreed upon through close discussions with the government. That is, expecting a sharp change in Bucharest's political course is naive," the interlocutor believes.

"Nevertheless, Georgescu can adjust it. For example, reduce the volume of arms transit to Ukraine, tighten the conditions for maintaining the US military base, sharply reduce the volume of financial support for the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Even in the States they understand that this will not particularly affect the situation in Europe, but at the moment they do not need additional rebels in the allied camp," Trukhachev reasons.

The actions of the US State Department may well affect the outcome of the elections, notes Romanian political analyst Roman Mihaesh. "The fact is that the day before, the republic's special services declassified a number of documents that testified to the undeclared financing of Georgescu's campaign. In fact, this is what the criticism of American politicians and the media is built around," he notes.

“For many Romanians, relations with Washington are important.

Of course, they are not a priority in the final choice of citizens, but American statements will still be able to convince someone. Especially since rumors about foreign financing of the right-wing candidate do not play into his hands either,” the interlocutor believes.

"At the same time, it is not enough for Georgescu to simply win the elections. The data of the special services will soon be verified by the law enforcement agencies of Romania. Accordingly, if the claims against him are legally confirmed, Lasconi and Cioalacu will have the opportunity to protest the right-wing candidate's coming to power," the source adds.

"But they won't be able to get rid of Georgescu so easily. According to the latest opinion polls, about 47% of citizens are ready to vote for him. His opponent Laskoni has 43%. The gap is extremely small. Moreover, no one will stop criticism of the right-wing candidate in the information space," the expert emphasizes.

“They remind him of all the mistakes of the past, and actively spread the theme of Georgescu’s positive statements about the Nazis during World War II.

There is, of course, not much time to change anything. But given Laskoni's considerable percentage of support, a relatively small number of people will have to be convinced," he notes.

Statements from the US can be qualified as pressure and an attempt to influence the election process, says political scientist and expert on the Danube region countries Oleg Krokhin. "This goes beyond the diplomatic norm. The formulations about the course and threats to limit investments can be considered as a soft but obvious interference in the election campaign," he said.

At the same time, Washington's position may influence voters who are oriented towards the West, but in the case of Georgescu's electorate, the State Department's statement risks having the opposite effect. "Moreover, it may cause irritation among young people and a desire to resist external pressure," the expert admitted. In his opinion, the data from sociologists in the current campaign is not trustworthy, which was eloquently confirmed by the results of the first round. At the same time, he did not rule out that if Lasconi loses in the second round, rallies could take place across the country. Supporters of the pro-European course have already taken to the streets in many major cities of Romania after the first round and called on young people not to vote for the "pro-Putin dictator Georgescu."

"At the same time, keeping Bucharest "obedient" is important for both the EU and the US, and for continuing to provide assistance to Ukraine. Therefore, the probability of falsifications in the second round is high. There is also a risk of escalation between supporters of different candidates and protracted protests in the post-election period," Krokhin concluded.

https://vz.ru/world/2024/12/5/1301790.html

Supporters of the pro-European course have already taken to the streets in many major cities of Romania after the first round and called on young people not to vote for the "pro-Putin dictator Georgescu."

Most young people I know don't like to be told who to vote for... when American news channels and their royalty (hollywood stars and tv stars) told them to vote for Harris... they vote for Trump in enormous numbers.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's gone!

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/114830

You will vote until you vote correctly:

  Romania's Constitutional Court has annulled the entire electoral process of the country's presidential election after the "pro-Russian candidate" won: "At a session on December 6, 2024, the Constitutional Court, in order to ensure the correctness and legality of the electoral process, decided: to annul the entire electoral process for the election of the Romanian president... The electoral process will be restarted, the government must set a new date for the election of the president."

Romania stages coup against sensation, by Gevorg Mirzayan for VZGLYAD. 12.07.2024.

The sensational decision of the Constitutional Court of Romania, which cancelled the first round of the presidential elections, has already been called "illegal and immoral". How do the Romanian authorities explain such a radical step - and why are both candidates who made it to the second round unhappy with it?

The results of the first round of the presidential elections held in Romania have been cancelled . This was decided on December 6 by the country's Supreme Court, which considered that Calin Georgescu's victory in the first round was illegal.

And it made its decision based on the findings of national intelligence. “Romanian authorities have decided to declassify and publish intelligence reports on malicious foreign operations, including illicit financing, support for the digital election campaign, and cyberattacks during the presidential elections in Romania,” the country’s Foreign Ministry said in a statement on December 5. The reports alleged that Russia had carried out a large-scale information campaign in support of Georgescu on Telegram and TikTok.

Thus, on the second attempt (the first took place on November 29, when the decision was made to recount the votes), the judges overturned the sensational, in the opinion of many, results of the first round.

Georgescu is, of course, unhappy. "They cannot accept that the Romanian people have finally said: 'We want to take back our lives, our country, our dignity,'" the politician says . Moreover, he even accused the Romanian authorities of a coup d'etat. However, this decision can no longer be challenged, and now the Romanian authorities must organize the entire electoral process anew.

In fact, the authorities are not against it. Prime Minister Marcel Ciolacu called the decision to annul the results “the only correct one,” since “the vote of the Romanian people was grossly distorted as a result of Russia’s interference.” In fact, it is no secret that the goal of the current government – ​​as well as its EU bosses in Brussels – was to prevent Calin Georgescu from winning in the second round.

The president in Romania is not a ceremonial figure. He is elected for a five-year term and has a range of powers over national security, foreign policy and judicial appointments.

For example, in his role as Supreme Commander-in-Chief, he can slow down decisions related to the transit of military cargo and the allocation of money for military aid to Ukraine – and Georgescu has already stated that if successful, he will do so. He will stop sponsoring the Kiev regime and supplying it with cargo.

The problem here is not only that Romania is an important logistics hub for supplying Ukraine – it is also a member of the collective West, whose leaders decided to organize an unprecedented cancellation of the vote.

"They took this step guided by the logic of wartime. In the face of confrontation with Russia, unity of the EU and NATO ranks is needed. And President Georgescu, even with limited powers, would have violated it," explains Vadim Trukhachev, associate professor at the Russian State University for the Humanities, to the Vzglyad newspaper.

The second important point was to prevent another “Trump man” from coming to power. That is, a nationally oriented (along with Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, his Slovak counterpart Robert Fico and the like) right-wing leader, on whom the American president could rely in his already obvious conflict with the Brussels bureaucrats.

The goal is clear and logical. But the instrument for its implementation, at first glance, may lead to the opposite effect. Georgescu's voters, outraged by the obvious lawlessness towards their idol, will only mobilize even more, as a result of which the number of votes cast for him may increase.

The Supreme Court, of course, can exclude Calin Georgescu from the voting lists altogether (the Prosecutor General's Office is already initiating criminal cases for interference in the elections, and it is unlikely that Georgescu will go as a witness in them), but this option is fraught with street riots. After all, voting for Georgescu was a protest - Romanians voted against the economic crisis, excessive spending on Ukraine, the unresolved Roma issue and other economic troubles in the country. And against Brussels, of course, whose pressure they consider one of the reasons for these problems. And in this situation, removing Georgescu will be seen as depriving the Romanian population of the right to choose and the right to a better life.

However, it is possible that the strategy chosen to prevent Georgescu's victory is somewhat different - much more cunning. In this case, the target of the Supreme Court's decision is not Georgescu, but Elena Lasconi, who took second place (and, accordingly, advanced to the second round with him).

The thing is that Lasconi is a radical pro-European politician who openly puts Brussels' interests above Romania's. And that's why she is an extremely convenient candidate for Georgescu. Against her background, he looks like a patriot, which means he can collect the votes of moderate voters and win the second round.

But if he had been up against third-placed Marcel Ciolacu, Georgescu's chances of winning would have been much smaller. "He is a systemic leftist, a left-centrist. With a slight touch of nationalism, as is often the case in the region. He is for following the EU and NATO, but not blindly. And he recalls the oppression of Romanians in Chernivtsi, which Laskoni does not do. And he knows his limits with regard to Russia, and does not declare it an "existential threat" to Romania," says Vadim Trukhachev. And against the backdrop of Ciolacu, Georgescu already looks like a radical to many Romanian centrists.

Therefore, the Supreme Court's decision could only have been taken to change Georgescu's opponent in the second round. Fortunately, Ciolacu's gap with Lasconi was a paltry 0.03% (or less than three thousand votes). And these figures can always be corrected, or at least drawn up.

Laskoni herself, of course, understands that she is now being deprived of a second round. That is why she – despite all her Russophobia and pro-Europeanism – has already condemned the court’s decision. She called it “illegal, immoral, undermining the very essence of democracy.”


"We had to respect the will of the Romanian people. Whether we like it or not, from a legal and legitimate point of view, 9 million Romanian citizens… expressed their preference for a certain candidate through their votes. We cannot ignore their will!" she was indignant. And she added that the issue of Russia's interference in the elections should have been decided after the vote.

However, no one asks her opinion. They simply sacrifice her. After all, there are a ton of pro-European candidates in Romania – they can always be sacrificed for their own interests.

Georgescu decides to appeal the annulment of the elections to the Supreme Court of Romania, by Vera Basilia for VZGLYAD. 12.07.2024.

Georgescu has decided to file a complaint with the Supreme Court of Romania against the cancellation of the first round of elections.

Romanian presidential candidate Calin Georgescu intends to appeal to the Supreme Court the decision to annul the first round of elections, said Romanian MP and chairman of the Alliance for the Unification of Romanians (AUR) party George Simion.

According to Simeon, Georgescu and his team will file a motion in court on Sunday to challenge the decision of the Constitutional Court, and the Alliance for the Unification of Romanians party will also file a motion in court, RIA Novosti reports .

Simion added that the action would be peaceful. He also announced that the AUR party had launched a petition demanding free elections in the country. According to him, this document would be sent to the Venice Commission and other European institutions, such as the Council of Europe and the OSCE.

Earlier, independent presidential candidate Calin Georgescu of Romania spoke of the undermining of democracy following the Constitutional Court's decision to annul the results of the first round of elections.

Georgescu says Biden wants to drag Romania into Ukraine conflict, 12.08.2024.

Georgescu: US, represented by Biden, wants to drag Romania into the conflict in Ukraine.

BUCHAREST, December 8 - RIA Novosti. Romanian presidential candidate Calin Georgescu said the US Biden administration is trying to drag the country into the conflict in Ukraine.

On Friday, judges of the Constitutional Court of Romania ruled to annul the first round of elections after re-examining complaints from public organizations, presidential candidates and government agencies. The requests cited documents declassified by the country's Supreme Security Council, according to which the election campaign was held with violations. Romanian Prime Minister Marcel Ciolacu has already welcomed the Constitutional Court's decision, calling it correct.

"The reason for the cancellation of the presidential elections in Romania was the fact that the administration of the outgoing President Biden seeks to use Bucharest as a tool to continue the conflict in Ukraine , trying to drag Romania into the war," Georgescu said on Saturday evening on Realitatea TV.

He added that the current President of Romania, Klaus Iohannis, is leading the country to war, acting in the interests of Western allies.

Romania held presidential elections on November 24, which are held every five years. The first round saw independent candidate Georgescu, who campaigned on TikTok , take first place with 22.94% of the vote . Elena Lasconi, who supports partnership with NATO and the United States, received 19.18% of the vote.

Now what? The first round voting result is restored?

 No Russian interference…

The Romanian tax authority ANAF has determined that the campaign on TikTok for Kelin Georgescu, the winner of the canceled first round of Romania's presidential election, was not funded by Russians, as claimed by Romanian intelligence (which was the formal reason for the cancellation of the first round's results), but by the pro-European National Liberal Party of Romania.

This was reported by the Romanian publication HotNews.

According to their information, the tax authority found that Georgescu's social media campaign was funded by the National Liberals, with the goal of drawing voters away from their rivals, the Social Democrats.

@ukraine_watch

I asked "now what" and here is the answer. If Zelinsky can get away with it as an expired term President, why not Romania's expired but still legally acting President? He has reappointed the old Government as the new one.

ROMANIA COUP UPDATE:


Former Romanian President Klaus Iohannis has REFUSED to LEAVE OFFICE after his term expired yesterday.


He now ILLEGALLY occupies his office on behalf of his GLOBALIST MASTERS.


MICHAEL🪽
@_samuel_72


Klaus Iohannis' term as Romanian President has indeed expired, but he will remain in office until a new president is elected, according to the country's laws. 


This isn't an unusual situation, as the Constitutional Court of Romania recently annulled the results of the presidential election due to alleged Russian interference. 


A new election is expected to take place, likely in March, and until then, Iohannis will continue to serve as president.


Meanwhile

Călin Georgescu went to the High Court to challenge the CANCELLATION of Romania's Presidential elections.

Klaus Iohannis' term as Romanian President has indeed expired, but he will remain in office until a new president is elected, according to the country's laws.

Obviously the plan all along...

What a clownery show!

Utterly despicable "garden of Eden"..