Arrow wrote:Ukraine is asking for US THAAD on Oreshnik. Trump reportedly fully supported attacks on Russia with NATO weapons. So those who believe in Trump so much will soon be disappointed.
Hopefully the US will comply and send the THAAD so that Russia prove its utter inability to shoot down these missiles. They couldn't even shoot down Iranian missiles with it in Israel.
Some people are really gullible. Thinking you can intercept a Mach 10 weapon with a Mach 8 missile.
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Eugenio Argentina wrote:An emergency meeting of the Ukraine-NATO Council will be held on November 26 to discuss the consequences of the use of a new Russian missile at a Ukrainian defense industry facility, the AFP agency reported, citing its diplomatic sources.
that den of villiany would be perfect for some sort of gas leak and some guy smoking by the furnace
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Eugenio Argentina wrote:An emergency meeting of the Ukraine-NATO Council will be held on November 26 to discuss the consequences of the use of a new Russian missile at a Ukrainian defense industry facility, the AFP agency reported, citing its diplomatic sources.
that den of villiany would be perfect for some sort of gas leak and some guy smoking by the furnace
You might have just written the script for the next mission impossible movie
Some people are really gullible. Thinking you can intercept a Mach 10 weapon with a Mach 8 missile.
actually you can - sending like 500, on one Oreskhin Oreshnik you got a pretty good chance. This way Russia can bankrupt west just with Oresnkihs alone
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I am wondering how that strike with a prototype missile may have developed. Perhaps the Russians do want the IRBM back, and they may see an opportunity wiith Trump, so they had this test scheduled, and what better test then a live target. I am not sure if it is 6 or 36 projetiles that hit the factory, but I am pretty sure they will send a hail of super high energy shrapnel that will cause vast damage to all kinds of equipment. Also it shows the idiotic Europeans what they will be facing if they host US IRBMs in the future. So they maximized a scheduled test to send a powerful message. We will see what the moronic British and USA do next. Biden is a a traitor, its clear as day. Maybe the Russias need to provide the Houthis with missiles to stirke the RAF base in Cyprus. It would be an exact copy of what the British did to them. Also a way to strike US ships. But its possible they already did that, and that is why the US is angry and acting more deranged then normal.
Well the decisions are made by the few or the one . Then a country's fate rests on one person's psychology . Take the case of Iran ; for years there was no response to various assassinations and sabotage . This inaction lead to overt attack on Embassy . This necessitated an overt military action from Iranian soil . But still there was no proportionality . No Israelis were killed . And so on and so forth . Now Iranians are at a stage of having to wage war . Can you see similarities to Russia ? The numerous red lines being crossed ? Now there are ICBM's flying . There are various defence mechanisms in psychology . A person can be over reliant on one defence mechanism . This is when maladaptive behaviours display themselves . Over intellectualization or over thinking a problem , instead of acting is one very common problem .
flamming_python wrote: ... I am an adult And I would very much prefer to avoid WW3...
It's not up to you or any other Russian
If USA wants WW3 it will happen
Playing hippie will get you nowhere just like it got USSR nowhere (literally)
They were so terrified of WW3 that they kept pussying out and getting assblasted for 40 years until they decomposed
They had everything they needed to win and they lost because they were pussies
flamming_python wrote:..... NATO is firing cruise missiles into Russia, it's irrelevant from whose territory.....
Unless NATO officially enters war it's the only relevant thing
If you want to respond appropriately without triggering that WW3 you are so terrified of then you will simply have to find some territory out there which is hostile to NATO, give them some cool toys and let them go buck wild
Like I said before don't be butthurt just because USA planned this better than you did
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Backman wrote:.... Surely there was a target closer to Kiev to demonstrate this weapon. Something anyone in Kiev, including the MOD , govt and embassies would have heard with their own ears.
Why do the poor saps on the outskirts always have to feel the brunt of it for the decisions being made in Kiev ? While life goes on like in any other European city, in Kiev.
Because those "poor" saps are happily following orders from Kiev while yelling 'slava ukraiini'
More of them get the killed less problems there will be in the future
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RTN wrote: Bullshit! Can't you see all these third world states like Pakistan, India issuing a NOTA several times a year before testing their MRBM and IRBM.
GARRY isn't wrong, it's not mandated but most countries will do it out of goodwill
For example in the US we aren't mandated to notify either
GARRY isn't wrong, it's not mandated but most countries will do it out of goodwill For example in the US we aren't mandated to notify either
And what - in detail - US is supposed to report? A test of 50 y/o technology checking if it will fall apart at the usual ratio? Geee! That will surely impress everyone out there
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Surely there was a target closer to Kiev to demonstrate this weapon. Something anyone in Kiev, including the MOD , govt and embassies would have heard with their own ears.
If they were to do that it might be better to choose a target the other side of Kiev, perhaps in the Lviv area or closer to the western border so NATO thinks it could be aimed at them to test their reaction.
In latest surveys of Nazi Germany, conducted in Jan 1945, and average of 52% of Germans would like to see their country negotiate an end to the war as soon as possible. But nearly four in 10 Germans (38%) believe their country should keep fighting until victory.
Not gonna happen.
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Do these stock/production numbers look reasonable? I though the Kalibre production seems pretty low since its used on so many platforms. Also it does not mention Tsirkon which should be in full rate at this point .
Scorpius wrote: P.S. For those who do not understand what he saw: the standard equipment of a nuclear warhead is 150 kilotons for each of the six warheads. So you see the arrival of the equivalent of about FIFTY Hiroshima bombs in a fairly small area in seven seconds. Try this on any hostile European city. This is the very message that Russia sent. I see that this conclusion has proved too difficult for many here.
Or alternatively, 6x combat payloads each dispensing 6x heavy submunitions, a total of 36 gift packages from Moscow with love. In this case they were just mass simulators or "dummies" given this was a "test flight" but in reality these could each be nukes or conventional warheads, including bunker busters.
Eurotrash clowns need to understand that this thing will have no problems reaching out to their "protected" bunkers where they were thinking they could be the monkey that flicks the switch in perfect safety. Oh no, silly little 4th Reich apparatchiks... you push the Bear too hard and you will die in a blast and flash and be buried under a few thousands tons of rubble.
mnztr wrote:Do these stock/production numbers look reasonable? I though the Kalibre production seems pretty low since its used on so many platforms. Also it does not mention Tsirkon which should be in full rate at this point .
Hilarious nonsense from the congenital inbreds of the Perfidious Albion ruling class and their empty-headed hoi-polloi peasants. Read the "comments" for a good belly laugh... These people are gonna fail so hard...
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