Russian special military operation in Ukraine #62

Just in case anyone missed it Garry issued an important announcement this morning. 

Everyone needs to read it, especially those who issue low level and other insults against others here.

https://www.russiadefence.net/t9144-expected-behaviour-part-2

Some visual effects on the arrival of the "Nutwood"      

P.S. For those who do not understand what he saw:
the standard equipment of a nuclear warhead is 150 kilotons for each of the six warheads. So you see the arrival of the equivalent of about FIFTY Hiroshima bombs in a fairly small area in seven seconds.
Try this on any hostile European city.
This is the very message that Russia sent.
I see that this conclusion has proved too difficult for many here.

Almost angelic.

@SeigSoloyvov

Looks like you've just earned yourself a new name..."SMIRV"

In the extended video of the use of a missile with multiple warheads in Dnepropetrovsk, it is visible that after some time, explosions occur at the place of their arrival. Either a secondary detonation, or after the big missile, its smaller sisters arrived.

The West claims that the Russian Armed Forces used an unnamed medium-range missile, not an ICBM.

https://t.me/intelslava/70239

Covers of world media after Putin's statements about Russia's strike with a medium-range strategic missile on the Dnieper.

https://t.me/intelslava/70268

https://tgstat.ru/channel/@ChDambiev/32906

An emergency meeting of the Ukraine-NATO Council will be held on November 26 to discuss the consequences of the use of a new Russian missile at a Ukrainian defense industry facility, the AFP agency reported, citing its diplomatic sources.

Eugenio Argentina wrote:An emergency meeting of the Ukraine-NATO Council will be held on November 26 to discuss the consequences of the use of a new Russian missile at a Ukrainian defense industry facility, the AFP agency reported, citing its diplomatic sources.

I still don't understand why they have let a defence facility untouched so close to the them and let them produce weapons there.

Pacense wrote:Impossible to descalate now. From both sides. Prepare for the worst.

It's always possible to de-escalate

Because it's only one side that's escalating

All they have to do is stop doing so, and everything will fall into place and gradually calm down

pavi wrote:There are couple of reasons. First even though Russia can produce a lot of missiles the supply is not infinite which leads target priorization. Second, the amount of missile capable doing enough damage required to destroy this fortification has been too much to justify it. Third , they maybe wanted capture the plant realtively intact. It is Russians, who are rebuilding these areas.

Option 4

Russia had some sort of 'deal' or 'tacit understanding' with the Ukraine, which of course the Ukrainians broke after playing Russia for the fools that they are. Or maybe it was Russia that broke the understanding for once. That would be an improvement.

Arkanghelsk wrote:The US controls Israeli actions, you attribute to much agency to the proxy

Just like Ukraine

US chooses the target , the weapons and the course of action , then they pretend they don’t have control over those crazy proxies

US psychology is maximum reward for minimal consequence

Should NATO get hit, the US won’t do much except a symbolic strike to maintain their image

Because that’s what it boils down to

It’s hold and strike strategy

But the US won’t escalate into a wider war, they can neither afford it, or supply it

Resistance is figuring that out, and the pushback will increase , the US is in scorched earth retreat mode

Not fit to fight a large war or risk its own economy and population

IMO too much caution was used with the US, but they aren’t some crazy suicidal guy, they just use intimidation and reputation to force their opponents to blink

The opponent is only now realizing the US can’t take a punch

Problem with all that is, arkhangelsk

Is that the US knows they're done. That's why they're so desperate to defeat Russia in the first place. Because if they do so, the BRICS will be neutered and the rest of the world will quickly get into line. China may try to resist, but at that point it will be surrounded on all sides, with a pro-Western Russian puppet regime to the north and Kazakhstan will use the excuse to jump ship to the West immediately too. It'll be over.

But that requires Russia to capitulate.

Or at least agree to a 'freeze' of the conflict, which will allow the West to rebuild its war industries, blockade Chinese goods, re-arm the Ukraine and get ready for its next attempt. That's the next best thing for the West and what it's shooting for now. BRICS will proceed but the wind will be taken out of its sails and the West will gradually be able to strong-arm the more vulnerable countries out of joining any alternative payment systems and so on.

But if none of that is possible then what's left?
Might as well go out with a bang. There is no plan C.

Which is of course, no excuse for Russia to pull its punches and avoid responding to escalations. Russia has to do that, as there are also some sane-minded people in the West who may be able to seize the initiative if the circumstances are right.

pavi wrote:There is zero evidence, that it was kinetic. Also there is zero evidence that HE was involved. If itwas kinetic, it would be very mild for warhead, only 75 kg or 150 kg TNT equivalent (M=100/200 kg, v~2500 m/s). Why bother do that kind of warhead?
The yuszhmash factory consists several uderground floors where are bunker like workshops underground. Woul it be visible, if penetrating warhead explose somewhere lowest floor. I don't think so...

Well, it might only be a 150kg TNT equivalent, but the roof coming down over your head at a speed of Mach whatever will still kill you. For underground facilities, that's all you need to do.

Isos wrote:I still don't understand why they have let a defence facility untouched so close to the them and let them produce weapons there.

Not as bad as the one in the Sumy region that they only destroyed a few days ago

That one was literally just across the border

Not enough missiles my ass

Summary of the Russian Ministry of Defense on the progress of repelling the attempted invasion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into the territory of the Russian Federation in the Kursk region (as of November 22, 2024)

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue to defeat the formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kursk region.

Units of the North group of forces defeated formations of the 41st, 47th and 115th mechanized, 5th and 17th tank, 82nd airborne assault brigades, 36th Marine Brigade, 112th, 117th and 129 brigades of territorial Defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine districts of the settlements of Alexandria, Viktorovka, Darino, Lebedevka, Leonidovka, Malaya Loknya, Nikolsky, Novoivanovka and Sverdlikovo.

The enemy's manpower and equipment were hit by tactical and army aviation strikes and artillery fire in the areas of the settlements of Alexandria, Kurilovka, Lebedevka, Leonidovka, Malaya Loknya, Martynovka, Melovy, Nizhny Klin, Nikolaevka, Nikolaevo-Darino, Nikolsky, Novoivanovka, Plekhovo, Sverdlikovo, Staraya Sorochina, Cherkasskoye Porechnoye, as well as Basovka, Belovody, Zhuravka, Obody and Yunakovka in Sumy region.

During the day, the losses of the Armed Forces amounted to 150 soldiers. Four vehicles, an artillery piece and two mortars were destroyed.

In total, during the fighting in the Kursk direction, the enemy lost more than 34,690 servicemen, 215 tanks, 147 infantry fighting vehicles, 120 armored personnel carriers, 1,190 armored combat vehicles, 992 vehicles, 297 artillery pieces, 40 multiple rocket launchers, including 11 HIMARS and six MLRS manufactured by the United States, 13 anti-aircraft launchers missile systems, seven transport-loading vehicles, 68 electronic warfare stations, 13 counter-battery radars, four air defense radars, 27 units of engineering and other equipment, of which 13 engineering barrier vehicles, one UR-77 mine clearance unit, as well as six armored recovery vehicles and a command and staff vehicle.

The operation to destroy the AFU formations continues.

https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12538283@egNews

Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of the special military operation (from November 16 to 22, 2024)

From November 16 to 22, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation carried out massive and 30 group strikes with high-precision weapons, including the Kinzhal hypersonic aeroballistic missile, as well as unmanned aerial vehicles. As a result, important facilities of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine, energy facilities used to provide the Armed Forces, the infrastructure of military airfields, assembly and storage sites for attack unmanned aerial vehicles, as well as arsenals, ammunition and fuel depots were hit. On November 21, 2024, in response to the use of American and British long-range weapons at facilities on the territory of the Russian Federation, the Armed Forces launched a combined attack on one of the facilities of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine in Dnepropetrovsk. For the first time in combat conditions, a medium-range ballistic missile in nuclear-free hypersonic equipment "Oreshnik" was successfully used in the strike. The launch goal has been achieved. All combat units have reached the target of destruction. In addition, the points of temporary deployment of units of the Ukrainian armed forces, nationalist formations and foreign mercenaries were defeated.

During the week, the units of the North group of troops continued to defeat the Armed Forces of Ukraine formations in the Kursk region. Air strikes, unmanned aerial vehicles and artillery fire hit the manpower and equipment of the tank, five mechanized, three airborne assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a marine brigade, five air defense brigades and two National Guard brigades. In the Kharkiv direction, units of the mechanized, motorized infantry, amphibious assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, four air defense brigades, a brigade of the National Guard and a border detachment of the border service of Ukraine were defeated. During the week in the area of responsibility of the North group of forces, enemy losses amounted to 2,620 soldiers, seven tanks, including the Leopard tank produced by Germany, 73 infantry fighting vehicles, two of them Bradley made by the United States and three German Marder armored vehicles, an American M113 armored personnel carrier, 47 vehicles and 24 guns field artillery.

Units of the Zapad group of forces occupied more advantageous lines and positions, defeated the manpower and equipment of five mechanized, jaeger, airborne brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, two defense brigades and a National Guard brigade. 27 counterattacks of the AFU assault groups were repelled. The enemy lost more than 3,210 military personnel, 16 armored combat vehicles, including four M113 armored personnel carriers manufactured by the United States, 36 vehicles and 30 field artillery guns, including ten self-propelled artillery installations and 155-mm howitzers manufactured by NATO countries. Six electronic warfare stations and 17 field ammunition depots were destroyed.

As a result of active actions, units of the "Southern" group of troops liberated the settlement of Dalneye of the Donetsk People's Republic. The formations of four mechanized, motorized infantry, mountain assault, two airmobile, amphibious assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were defeated. We repelled 13 counterattacks by AFU units. The enemy's losses amounted to over 3,845 military personnel, four tanks, ten armored combat vehicles, of which five M113 armored personnel carriers manufactured by the United States, 51 vehicles, 35 field artillery guns, including 16 Western-made. 10 electronic warfare and counter-battery warfare stations were destroyed, as well as 16 field ammunition depots.

Units of the Center group of forces continued to advance into the depth of the enemy's defense and liberated the settlements of Leninskoye, Novoalekseyevka, Novoselidovka, Ilyinka and Novodmitrovka of the Donetsk People's Republic. The manpower and equipment of the tank, four mechanized, infantry, three jaeger brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, two marine brigades, three defense brigades and two National Guard brigades were defeated. We repelled 68 enemy counterattacks. During the week, the losses of the Ukrainian armed forces in this area amounted to over 2,680 servicemen, two Bradley infantry fighting vehicles made in the USA, 17 armored combat vehicles, including two American M113 armored personnel carriers, six Cossack armored vehicles, MaxxPro made in the USA and Kirpi made in Turkey, 19 vehicles and 36 guns field artillery.

As a result of the active actions of the units of the Vostok group of forces, the settlement of Makarovka in the Donetsk People's Republic was liberated. The formations of the mechanized, motorized infantry, infantry brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a marine brigade, four air defense brigades and a National Guard brigade were defeated. Nine counterattacks of the AFU assault groups were repelled. The enemy lost up to 975 soldiers, seven tanks, including a Leopard made in Germany, 13 armored combat vehicles, 36 vehicles, 15 field artillery guns, as well as two M113 armored personnel carriers, an HMMWV armored vehicle and a HIMARS multiple rocket launcher.

Units of the Dnepr group of forces defeated the manpower and equipment of three mechanized, infantry, mountain assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and three air defense brigades. The losses of the Armed Forces amounted to up to 530 servicemen, 37 vehicles, four field artillery guns, 11 electronic and counter-battery warfare stations and four field ammunition depots.

Air defense systems shot down a long-range guided missile "Neptune", five operational and tactical missiles ATACMS manufactured in the United States, two cruise missiles "Storm Shadow" manufactured in the United Kingdom, 16 guided aircraft bombs "Hammer" manufactured in France, 18 rockets of the HIMARS multiple launch rocket system manufactured in the United States and 642 unmanned aerial vehicles of the aircraft type.

During the week, 82 Ukrainian servicemen surrendered on the line of contact, 52 of them surrendered in the Kursk direction.

In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, 648 aircraft, 283 helicopters, 36,500 unmanned aerial vehicles, 586 anti-aircraft missile systems, 19481 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 1490 multiple rocket launchers, 18388 field artillery and mortars, 28637 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed.

https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12538287@egNews

Russian MoD reporting 13,860 Ukrainian casualties over the past 7 days.

Isos wrote:
I still don't understand why they have let a defence facility untouched so close to the them and let them produce weapons there.

Quite clever actually. Give your enemy a false sense of security and then one foggy morning...BAM!

A couple of restless nights ahead - where will they strike next? And then one day when the dust has settled and everyone is cozy...BAM!

Ukraine is asking for US THAAD on Oreshnik. Trump reportedly fully supported attacks on Russia with NATO weapons. So those who believe in Trump so much will soon be disappointed.

Strong "Nut": Europe has nothing to counter with, by Elena Karaeva for RiaNovosti. 11.22.2024.

The European political establishment was in a real turmoil on Thursday evening. Having listened to Vladimir Putin's detailed and nuanced account, either on its own or having received it from its aides, the establishment naturally cried out: "And why us?" And, it seems, for the first time, it used its collective mind. It is useful for everyone without exception to think (and, based on the results of thinking, to understand) what they have done, and it is especially useful for European leaders, those who are for "progress and democracy", completely for Ukraine and categorically against Russia.

The launch of Oreshnik marked the beginning of a funeral feast for the former might, once indisputable, of the current European civilization. And judging by the reaction, the sound, or rather hyper sound, was heard, albeit belatedly. First of all, by those who two and a half years ago predicted our country's economic collapse, the ruin of the people, defeat in the SVO and international isolation.

The European bloc has been marching towards its current panic for many months, refusing to see and perceive reality, relying solely on the imaginary. On the matrix created by the collective brain, or rather, by those political cockroaches that replaced the grey matter. This matrix has brought all those who were immersed in it to the brink of disaster. Nuclear, non-nuclear, missile, land, it doesn’t matter. What’s more important is that those who have decided to once again enter into confrontation with us will not be able to give any clear answer, be it political or diplomatic, either tomorrow, or the day after tomorrow, or in principle – in the foreseeable or indefinite future.

The trigger for panic was these 14 words of Vladimir Putin: "The Ukrainian conflict has acquired elements of a global character after attacks on our territory by long-range Western missiles." The French President and the British Prime Minister literally begged Washington on their knees for permission to strike our territory ten days ago. As they believed, if the use of ATACMS is allowed, then London and Paris will be able, without limiting themselves in any way, to give those who in collective Kyiv oversee the launches of Storm Shadow and SCALP the command to use these missiles.

The few reasonable people left in Europe warned two years ago that the bloc was walking towards war like a sleepwalker, not listening to anyone, submitting only to Washington's hypnosis. They said that Russia was right in expressing its concerns, that it should have been listened to first and only then incited against Kyiv. That it would have made sense to listen to Moscow, since it has never given reason to doubt either its sincerity or its consistency in defending its own interests, to which - we will say this - it has an absolutely full right. But no, no way.

Having kindled a fire of war against us and entered into direct confrontation with us - and it is impossible to qualify the exchange of missile strikes in any other way - the pan-European bloc and the USA found themselves in a situation from which there is no good (for them) way out and none is expected. By twisting the levers of escalation to the limit, having decided in November to scare us with missile strikes, the fixers in good suits behaved not like responsible (or at least reasonable) politicians, but like self-cocking psychos. Their panic yesterday induces even greater hysteria, and this race of weak nervous systems has only just begun.

We are forced to deal, albeit minimally, with those who not only attacked us, but also with those who accuse us of escalation. France and its hapless leader are doing it more juicily than others. Even a day before the launch of Western missiles to strike our territory, the owner of the Elysee Palace called on Putin and Russia, as he himself put it, to "prudence." Prudence, according to Macron, is when they shoot at us, threaten us, are going to destroy us, and we humbly remain silent.

Politicians like the French president and the still-incumbent American one, totally unaware of where they are dragging their own voters with their own hands, words and actions, have turned out to be much more hawkish than their army chiefs. Both the Pentagon generals and those officers who sit in European headquarters remember very well the previous lessons of military defeats from Russia. They are trying as best they can to cool down those who are itching to fight us. But judging by where the world is today, they are not doing a very good job.

Today, tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, the West, European and American, will be digesting the launch of our strong "Oreshnik". But the most important thing is that they will certainly not understand and will definitely not accept it. The West, having become bogged down in a geopolitical crisis it created itself, will not be able to reconsider its positions, admit its mistakes and try to correct them. This will definitely not happen. This means that we need to calmly and coolly continue what we are doing. Including on the LBS in the SVO zone. After all, the only thing that can guarantee us, besides "Oreshnik", security and peace is victory in the confrontation. And victory will be ours, because our cause is just. And our opponents, the West, have no answer not only to the salvo of "Oreshnik", but also to our historical rightness.

https://ria.ru/20241122/evropa-1985196761.html

Time to play Schiffeversenken with Nimnitz Class in Houthi edition.