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2024 Iran–Israel conflict #2
Eugenio Argentina- Posts : 4571
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- Post n°101
Re: 2024 Iran–Israel conflict #2
A number of Israeli boosters were found in Iraqi Kurdistan. According to reports, Israeli fighters fired missiles from Iraqi Kurdistan airspace towards the targets in Iran.
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- Post n°102
Re: 2024 Iran–Israel conflict #2
Islamic World News, [25/10/2024 21:55]
/ Yedioth Ahronoth, citing an informed Israeli source: The attack on Iran does not include nuclear or oil facilities.
Because you don't have the balls!
#Iran #Israel
Islamic World News, [25/10/2024 22:09]
/ Israeli media: The people of Tehran are sleeping and did not feel the attack and we are awake.
It is not clear whether we have attacked or they? Why is the Prime Minister underground?
#Iran #Israel
/ Yedioth Ahronoth, citing an informed Israeli source: The attack on Iran does not include nuclear or oil facilities.
Because you don't have the balls!
#Iran #Israel
Islamic World News, [25/10/2024 22:09]
/ Israeli media: The people of Tehran are sleeping and did not feel the attack and we are awake.
It is not clear whether we have attacked or they? Why is the Prime Minister underground?
#Iran #Israel
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- Post n°103
Re: 2024 Iran–Israel conflict #2
Military sources released the names of two other Iranian army servicemen who were martyred in last night's attacks.
— "Sajad Mansouri" and "Mehdi Naqavi" were martyred in the Israeli attacks last night.
— In this way, the number of martyrs of Israel's aggression increased to four servicemen.
https://t.me/iswnews_en/12871
— "Sajad Mansouri" and "Mehdi Naqavi" were martyred in the Israeli attacks last night.
— In this way, the number of martyrs of Israel's aggression increased to four servicemen.
https://t.me/iswnews_en/12871
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Re: 2024 Iran–Israel conflict #2
— | Video is doing its rounds showing damage to a factory from Shams Abad industrial town, claiming to be related to Iran's drone parts manufacturing facilities.
However, this factory is unrelated to drones. It’s a factory by the Navaran Teksaz Sanat Engineering Company (TIECO), (https://tieco.ir/fa/) which is factory for agriculture & drilling machinery.
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However, this factory is unrelated to drones. It’s a factory by the Navaran Teksaz Sanat Engineering Company (TIECO), (https://tieco.ir/fa/) which is factory for agriculture & drilling machinery.
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- Post n°105
Re: 2024 Iran–Israel conflict #2
The Israeli Air Force has released footage of F-16I and F-15I fighter jets flying combat missions during night strikes on targets in Iran.
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- Post n°106
Re: 2024 Iran–Israel conflict #2
Eugenio Argentina wrote: The Israeli Air Force has released footage of F-16I and F-15I fighter jets flying combat missions during night strikes on targets in Iran.
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Armed with nothing. Just went in the air in fear of a ballistic missile attack on the base. That's why they have 3 fuel tank, to stay airborne as long as possible.
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- Post n°107
Re: 2024 Iran–Israel conflict #2
Netti and friends made a huge mistake in "attacking" Iran. The "limited attack" clearly shows their limitations and weaknesses - well at least in the eyes of the Arab world. It would have been better not to attack at all.
Having the support of 10 US tankers + their own is not a small scale event - but despite all that it turned out to be a mosquito byte.
They should stick to what they do best these days - killing babies and their mothers.
Having the support of 10 US tankers + their own is not a small scale event - but despite all that it turned out to be a mosquito byte.
They should stick to what they do best these days - killing babies and their mothers.
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- Post n°108
Re: 2024 Iran–Israel conflict #2
48N6P-1 and 9M82 are both qualified to intercept TBM. Strange that Iran didn't shoot down the Israeli ALBMs.lyle6 wrote:Iran received the S-300 PMU3-M1M Obr. 24.
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- Post n°109
Re: 2024 Iran–Israel conflict #2
Iran has like 4 S-300. They have maybe an effective ABM range of 60km. They have a territory bigger than Ukraine. Don't expect them to intercept anything with them that is not around Teheran and nuclear sites.
Iran recognized radars were hit at the border with Iraq. They don't operate thousands of ABM systems. Probably some normal AD there with no ABM capabilities.
Their AD is quite weak against ballistic missiles. That's why everything is burried deep in the ground.
Iran recognized radars were hit at the border with Iraq. They don't operate thousands of ABM systems. Probably some normal AD there with no ABM capabilities.
Their AD is quite weak against ballistic missiles. That's why everything is burried deep in the ground.
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- Post n°110
Re: 2024 Iran–Israel conflict #2
— Full statement by the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Iran:
'To the noble and zealous nation of Islamic Iran: This morning, Zionist enemy jets, in an overt aggression and against international law, launched from Iraqi airspace about one hundred kilometers from the borders of Iran, a number of long-range airborne ballistic missiles with very light warheads, about one fifth of the warhead size of Iran's ballistic missiles, towards several border radars in the provinces of Ilam, Khuzestan and around Tehran province. Many of these radars were immediately restored, are some now in the process of being repaired.
In this illegitimate and illegal act, due to the readiness of the country's air defenses, a significant number of the missiles were tracked and intercepted, and enemy jets were prevented from entering the country's airspace.
The Islamic Republic of Iran, while reserving its legal and legitimate right to respond at the appropriate time, emphasizes the establishment of a lasting ceasefire in Gaza and Lebanon to prevent the killing of the helpless and oppressed people.
The terrorist and criminal government of the United States, which plays a central role in supporting and encouraging the criminal actions of the Zionist regime in disrupting the security of the region, is warned to prevent the spread of conflict and instability in the region and the killing of innocent people, especially in Gaza and Lebanon.
We urge the United States to restrain itself and the illegitimate regime it supports (Israel) to avoid getting itself and its allies dragged into the endless quagmire that the Zionist regime has created.
The honorable people of Iran, the media, experts and analysts are requested not to pay attention to the rumors and unreliable enemy narratives and to follow the correct news through official sources and national media.'
@Middle_East_Spectator
'To the noble and zealous nation of Islamic Iran: This morning, Zionist enemy jets, in an overt aggression and against international law, launched from Iraqi airspace about one hundred kilometers from the borders of Iran, a number of long-range airborne ballistic missiles with very light warheads, about one fifth of the warhead size of Iran's ballistic missiles, towards several border radars in the provinces of Ilam, Khuzestan and around Tehran province. Many of these radars were immediately restored, are some now in the process of being repaired.
In this illegitimate and illegal act, due to the readiness of the country's air defenses, a significant number of the missiles were tracked and intercepted, and enemy jets were prevented from entering the country's airspace.
The Islamic Republic of Iran, while reserving its legal and legitimate right to respond at the appropriate time, emphasizes the establishment of a lasting ceasefire in Gaza and Lebanon to prevent the killing of the helpless and oppressed people.
The terrorist and criminal government of the United States, which plays a central role in supporting and encouraging the criminal actions of the Zionist regime in disrupting the security of the region, is warned to prevent the spread of conflict and instability in the region and the killing of innocent people, especially in Gaza and Lebanon.
We urge the United States to restrain itself and the illegitimate regime it supports (Israel) to avoid getting itself and its allies dragged into the endless quagmire that the Zionist regime has created.
The honorable people of Iran, the media, experts and analysts are requested not to pay attention to the rumors and unreliable enemy narratives and to follow the correct news through official sources and national media.'
@Middle_East_Spectator
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- Post n°111
Re: 2024 Iran–Israel conflict #2
| Iran’s mission to the UN:
1. The Zionist regime’s warplanes attacked several Iranian military and radar sites from Iraqi airspace, approximately 70 miles from Iran’s border.
2. Iraqi airspace is under the occupation, command and control of the U.S. military.
Conclusion: The U.S. complicity in this crime is certain.
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- Post n°112
Re: 2024 Iran–Israel conflict #2
— Satellite imagery shows 1-2, maybe 3 very small impacts in Parchin military facility.
Those claiming that this damage is going to be problematic for Iran and slow down its missile capabilities, they are extremely wrong.
Also, this is the only satellite imagery available that shows “a damage,” for now. Other claimaints showing pins on google map images supposedly indicating damage, should be disregarded until clear proof.
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Those claiming that this damage is going to be problematic for Iran and slow down its missile capabilities, they are extremely wrong.
Also, this is the only satellite imagery available that shows “a damage,” for now. Other claimaints showing pins on google map images supposedly indicating damage, should be disregarded until clear proof.
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- Post n°113
Re: 2024 Iran–Israel conflict #2
Iran's army: Israel used part of Iraq's US-controlled airspace, 10.26.2024.
The Iranian military said that long-range missiles used by Israel have "a very light warhead, about a fifth of the warhead of Iranian ballistic missiles."
The Israeli aviation used part of the space available to the United States in Iraq, 100 kilometers from the Iranian border, for its night attacks against the Persian country, the Iranian army reports in a statement.
"The Zionist enemy aviation [...] using the space available to the American terrorist army in Iraq, 100 kilometers from Iran's borders, remotely launched several long-range air missiles," the message reads.
"In this illegitimate and illegal action, with the preparation of the country's air defense, a significant number of missiles have been tracked and intercepted," it adds. The Iranian military said that long-range missiles used by Israel have "a very light warhead, about a fifth of the warhead of Iranian ballistic missiles."
Some sites suffered limited losses and radar systems were damaged during the attacks, he said. These losses were instantly repaired in some locations, and work is underway to repair the others, it added.
"Iran, while reserving its legal and legitimate right to respond at the appropriate time, insists on the need to establish a permanent ceasefire in Gaza and Lebanon," the army said.
The Israel Defense Forces have carried out tonight "precise strikes against military targets in Iran." More than 100 fighter jets, including fifth-generation F-35 multirole fighters, took part in the operation, according to Israeli media. However, Iranian media reports indicate that the size of the attack was smaller than what was expressed by Israel and that, in reality, it "seeks to magnify its weak" operation.
Yandex Translate from Spanish.
https://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/528025-ejercito-iran-israel-espacio-aereo-eeuu-irak
The Iranian military said that long-range missiles used by Israel have "a very light warhead, about a fifth of the warhead of Iranian ballistic missiles."
The Israeli aviation used part of the space available to the United States in Iraq, 100 kilometers from the Iranian border, for its night attacks against the Persian country, the Iranian army reports in a statement.
"The Zionist enemy aviation [...] using the space available to the American terrorist army in Iraq, 100 kilometers from Iran's borders, remotely launched several long-range air missiles," the message reads.
"In this illegitimate and illegal action, with the preparation of the country's air defense, a significant number of missiles have been tracked and intercepted," it adds. The Iranian military said that long-range missiles used by Israel have "a very light warhead, about a fifth of the warhead of Iranian ballistic missiles."
Some sites suffered limited losses and radar systems were damaged during the attacks, he said. These losses were instantly repaired in some locations, and work is underway to repair the others, it added.
"Iran, while reserving its legal and legitimate right to respond at the appropriate time, insists on the need to establish a permanent ceasefire in Gaza and Lebanon," the army said.
The Israel Defense Forces have carried out tonight "precise strikes against military targets in Iran." More than 100 fighter jets, including fifth-generation F-35 multirole fighters, took part in the operation, according to Israeli media. However, Iranian media reports indicate that the size of the attack was smaller than what was expressed by Israel and that, in reality, it "seeks to magnify its weak" operation.
Yandex Translate from Spanish.
https://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/528025-ejercito-iran-israel-espacio-aereo-eeuu-irak
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- Post n°114
Re: 2024 Iran–Israel conflict #2
Strategic SAMs are for protecting your center of gravity. So most important HQs, communication facilities, industrial sites, storage bases, etc.Sujoy wrote:
48N6P-1 and 9M82 are both qualified to intercept TBM. Strange that Iran didn't shoot down the Israeli ALBMs.
And what do you know, the yahudis weren't even able to dent anything important.
Motherfuckers have blown up a porta potty and that's enough to claim victory.
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- Post n°115
Re: 2024 Iran–Israel conflict #2
And the 400 kg Gorilla in the room ? The continued attacks and genocide against Palestinian and Lebanese people continues . Doubt the Israeli claim of the use of metal planes , in the attack against Iran . This evidenced by extreme caution of reduced warheads for range , to keep planes safe . Still a reduced warhead of 100 kg , can take out a lot above ground . Nobody mentioned cruise missiles . One you tube video seemed to show a slower missile intercept . Where are the Dolphins ? Only the radar dish need be above ground . Extra dish that are manufactured , can quickly be replaced . The Israelis are killing many and driving out . Dreaming of settling the captured lands ! Dreaming of settling in Gaza and South Lebanon . Dreaming of driving out Palestinians from Jordan........
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- Post n°116
Re: 2024 Iran–Israel conflict #2
| The latest mural design of Palestine Square in Tehran (Iran) after the martyrdom of 4 army soldiers during Israel’s aggression:
“Another storm is coming…”
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“Another storm is coming…”
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Re: 2024 Iran–Israel conflict #2
Iran’s FM wrote letters to the UN Secretary General & UNSC members to convene an emergency meeting to address Israel’s strike against Iran.
He said that Iran reserves the right to respond in due time.
He said that Iran reserves the right to respond in due time.
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- Post n°118
Re: 2024 Iran–Israel conflict #2
I think it’s clear that the attack, as set, being limited in scope, was successful. Acquired targets were hit and all planes returned to base.
The questions around those targets are also clear; did they attack low level targets because they were told to by the US to ensure the elections weren’t upset by a regional war or the global economy wasn’t sunk which would again hurt the US economy but also the elections with a huge oil price surge, did they choose not to hit the bigger targets because the Iranian response would be severe?
The other questions remain unanswered. Had it gone for the bigger targets where the more sophisticated air defence architecture is in place, would it have been successful. On balance, probably as it’s been proven in both the Ukraine/Russia and israel, that no matter how good the architecture, missiles get through. But until that attack happens we don’t know for sure.
Both countries have informed each other via back channels of impending military strikes. That in itself speaks volumes.
For Iran, it’s a warning that yes their stuff can be hit without much hinderance. We can only speculate about the targets as above. But the Iranians will be looking at this as a decent unanswered attack with much to consider.
The problem for the israelis and why I think they’re actually the major losers out of this entire 12 months, is that they have claimed this, that and the other about their capabilities (and so too has Iran). The problem for israel is that the world (and most importantly, their own people) believed them and thought the Iranians were talking shit. In reality, the exact opposite occurred where by Iran not once, but twice, demonstrated its ability to strike at ease militarily targets two thousand miles away and did so without assistance. Isreal, required the assistance of several countries including significant and expensive NATO naval and air assets to assist them repelling the attack which as evidenced by the dramatic footage, failed and failed miserably. There can be no argument surrounding Iran's capabilities in this regard. That’s now put firmly to bed. As they say, pics or didn’t happen….well the video footage was beyond impressive imo. Israel now knows without any doubt, that it’s at the mercy of Iranian capabilities that could without warning and within minutes, destroy: desalination plants, water treatment plants, power plants as well as inflict significant damage on its military bases including aircraft bases that it so heavily relies upon, rendering the country ruined with significant turmoil inflicted upon the citizens. This must have the israeli command more worried than they have ever been. The facts are this, in the 1970s, save for some US support from space and intelligence, they went alone against several neighbours and won. Now they need support from several neighbours and some of the most powerful militaries in the world to help it, but even then it couldn’t prevent the attack.
Israel is now a lost society that has lost most of the decent thinking populations of the world; be they Muslim, Christian and everything else besides, even Jewish with their slaughter and genocide. A country fracturing from the pressures within where secular Jews find themselves at odds with settler Jews. Ironically, the state of israel is under real pressure to continue its existence. A few decades from now and it maybe a very different looking country. They now must also face the reality, that Iran has the capacity and the abilities to destroy them by conventional means….how the tables have turned.
The questions around those targets are also clear; did they attack low level targets because they were told to by the US to ensure the elections weren’t upset by a regional war or the global economy wasn’t sunk which would again hurt the US economy but also the elections with a huge oil price surge, did they choose not to hit the bigger targets because the Iranian response would be severe?
The other questions remain unanswered. Had it gone for the bigger targets where the more sophisticated air defence architecture is in place, would it have been successful. On balance, probably as it’s been proven in both the Ukraine/Russia and israel, that no matter how good the architecture, missiles get through. But until that attack happens we don’t know for sure.
Both countries have informed each other via back channels of impending military strikes. That in itself speaks volumes.
For Iran, it’s a warning that yes their stuff can be hit without much hinderance. We can only speculate about the targets as above. But the Iranians will be looking at this as a decent unanswered attack with much to consider.
The problem for the israelis and why I think they’re actually the major losers out of this entire 12 months, is that they have claimed this, that and the other about their capabilities (and so too has Iran). The problem for israel is that the world (and most importantly, their own people) believed them and thought the Iranians were talking shit. In reality, the exact opposite occurred where by Iran not once, but twice, demonstrated its ability to strike at ease militarily targets two thousand miles away and did so without assistance. Isreal, required the assistance of several countries including significant and expensive NATO naval and air assets to assist them repelling the attack which as evidenced by the dramatic footage, failed and failed miserably. There can be no argument surrounding Iran's capabilities in this regard. That’s now put firmly to bed. As they say, pics or didn’t happen….well the video footage was beyond impressive imo. Israel now knows without any doubt, that it’s at the mercy of Iranian capabilities that could without warning and within minutes, destroy: desalination plants, water treatment plants, power plants as well as inflict significant damage on its military bases including aircraft bases that it so heavily relies upon, rendering the country ruined with significant turmoil inflicted upon the citizens. This must have the israeli command more worried than they have ever been. The facts are this, in the 1970s, save for some US support from space and intelligence, they went alone against several neighbours and won. Now they need support from several neighbours and some of the most powerful militaries in the world to help it, but even then it couldn’t prevent the attack.
Israel is now a lost society that has lost most of the decent thinking populations of the world; be they Muslim, Christian and everything else besides, even Jewish with their slaughter and genocide. A country fracturing from the pressures within where secular Jews find themselves at odds with settler Jews. Ironically, the state of israel is under real pressure to continue its existence. A few decades from now and it maybe a very different looking country. They now must also face the reality, that Iran has the capacity and the abilities to destroy them by conventional means….how the tables have turned.
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Re: 2024 Iran–Israel conflict #2
| Iran’s national security expert, Mahdi Mohammadi:
“Israel's exposed weaknesses should be leveraged to realign the security and geopolitical equation across the entire region.”
“Israel's exposed weaknesses should be leveraged to realign the security and geopolitical equation across the entire region.”
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- Post n°120
Re: 2024 Iran–Israel conflict #2
48N6P-1 and 9M82 are both qualified to intercept TBM. Strange that Iran didn't shoot down the Israeli ALBMs.
Unless they were very very high speed missiles (which would benefit from very high altitude flight) I would assume a ballistic missile launched from an aircraft would have a very shallow flight path to make it harder to spot and to intercept even if it didn't manouver.
Most ABM systems are geared towards fully ballistic weapons that are lofted high in the air and come down rather steeply... that is why most ABM SAMs have rather short effective ranges against ballistic missiles... the Patriot PAC-3 had a range of about 15-25km because at greater ranges the target would be too high up in the air to intercept.
Even the S-300V and S-400 don't hit ballistic missiles at anywhere near their max range against aerodynamic targets (about 250km and 400km respectively).
Iran has like 4 S-300. They have maybe an effective ABM range of 60km. They have a territory bigger than Ukraine. Don't expect them to intercept anything with them that is not around Teheran and nuclear sites.
Plus the Israelis and Americans will be carefully scanning super high res satellite images all the time to try to find and locate their air defence systems finding targets that are not defended that they can claim were critical for this or that reason so they can claim a win.
Not much different from the Ukraine where no doubt they searched and searched for targets a few missiles might sneak through... like a dry dock or something.
I think it’s clear that the attack, as set, being limited in scope, was successful. Acquired targets were hit and all planes returned to base.
Considering the attack that was promised and threatened it was very very weak. It seems they modified their missiles to achieve extra range because they clearly fear the Iranian air defences while at the same time claiming they are weak and can be defeated by the super Israeli air power not to mention US air power.
Will be interesting if Trump gets elected... how will things look in just over a weeks time... war in Iran or war in Washington...
Seems to me a Trump victory is more likely to cause civil unrest, but if it is blatantly obvious the Democrats cheated again then maybe civil unrest might happen no matter what...
The other questions remain unanswered. Had it gone for the bigger targets where the more sophisticated air defence architecture is in place, would it have been successful. On balance, probably as it’s been proven in both the Ukraine/Russia and israel, that no matter how good the architecture, missiles get through. But until that attack happens we don’t know for sure.
How stealthy is the F-35... you would assume a more aggressive attack would use their best aircraft and it would be used more heavily... putting it more in harms way and taking greater risks... when the F-117 was shot down it essentially faded from service but the corruption that is the F-35 they can't afford to do that... it is the golden goose that is milking US allies of funds at an enormous rate, and there is no plan B, or should that be Plane B... unless Plane B is the new old F-15.
For Iran, it’s a warning that yes their stuff can be hit without much hinderance. We can only speculate about the targets as above. But the Iranians will be looking at this as a decent unanswered attack with much to consider.
Iran is a relatively large territory and all they seem to have his is an engineering company that makes drilling equipment... I suspect they were working on something that will make Iranian drilling cheaper and more effective and that was why they were targeted... it was an economic target that Iran is going to claim was making farm machinery. A bit like the west claiming a baby milk factory in Iraq was making Chemical weapons... the attack forcing Iraq to import baby milk formula... from the west... how fortunate is that for that western company...
The problem for the israelis and why I think they’re actually the major losers out of this entire 12 months,
Agree with the point you go on to make but I would add it is worse than that because from a rest of the world view, those Iranian attacks were against obviously military targets, while Israeli attacks with its super powerful military and amazing air force actually hits hospitals and schools and UN workers and reporters and claims terrorist elements were there in bunkers underneath.
The different between Israel and Iran is not a lot different from the difference between Kiev and Russia where the former are attempting to remove an entire group from territory it claims as its own and the group is based on the language they speak and includes Ukrainians, which they call Russians. In comparison the civilian death toll to Russian strikes is minimal... the sort of thing western countries claim and would love to achieve politically in a conflict, but never manage because they are so afraid of losing their own troops and will level a city block to get a single enemy sniper... whom they will call a terrorist of course.
Israel is now a lost society
When they said Israel has a right to exist and the right to defend itself, but that Palestine has no right to exist and no right to resist it was over, because that is genocide and the west wont support that forever... they have their own problems right now.
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- Post n°121
Re: 2024 Iran–Israel conflict #2
— The mixers’ buildings were built recently & have nothing to do with ballistic missiles, despite Israeli claims they degraded Iran’s ballistic missile capabilities.
The Parchin Solid Propellant Plant facility produces MANPADS & ATGMs.
More importantly, the damage is not significant at all, half of the roofs is still visible. This indicates the missiles Israeli F15 jets launched, were all intercepted and the buildings were most likely attacked by suicide drones (maybe even with the possibility of quadcopters).
The Israelis are grossly exaggerating the impact of their attack on Iran's ballistic program. The impact is literally nil.
Also those “resistance” telegram channels that claim Iran will have difficulties with getting mixers, facing difficulties, are just repeating Israeli narratives. Everything of value will be protected deep underground, and wouldn’t be in such vulnerable location.
https://t.me/FotrosResistance/9676
The Parchin Solid Propellant Plant facility produces MANPADS & ATGMs.
More importantly, the damage is not significant at all, half of the roofs is still visible. This indicates the missiles Israeli F15 jets launched, were all intercepted and the buildings were most likely attacked by suicide drones (maybe even with the possibility of quadcopters).
The Israelis are grossly exaggerating the impact of their attack on Iran's ballistic program. The impact is literally nil.
Also those “resistance” telegram channels that claim Iran will have difficulties with getting mixers, facing difficulties, are just repeating Israeli narratives. Everything of value will be protected deep underground, and wouldn’t be in such vulnerable location.
https://t.me/FotrosResistance/9676
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The S-400 was on record for shooting down S-300 interceptorsthat were targeting friendly Russian aircraft.
When it comes to intercepting real world targets it doesn't get any more harder than that.
When it comes to intercepting real world targets it doesn't get any more harder than that.
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Re: 2024 Iran–Israel conflict #2
Tit for tat ? Proportional response ? Escalation ladder ? Revenge attacks ? Retaliation ? Like the Eskimo , that have twenty different words for different kinds of Snow , or the English that have ten different words to describe different types of rain ?
I have been guilty too . At times saying " proportional , " and others saying " escalation . " But proportional does not describe any real conflict . Nor escalation describe any real situation . There are no such types of Snow or Rain !
Real life only allows for war . Wars are fought to destroy . To destroy and overtake others land . No wars have been won in the air alone .
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Re: 2024 Iran–Israel conflict #2
Heard rumours that Saudi reconciliation moves , including joint naval drills , is only to appease Iran . While the Saudis entertain the thought of Israel/ Iran conflict favourably , thinking that Iranians will be weakened by war against Israel / Yank axis . This will lead them to a dominant position in the region .
If Saudi are genuine , then they should allow Yemen ground troops to pass through their territory to confront the Israelis . If push comes to shove , then Iran can engage them in the Persian Gulf , putting pressure on them , so that they have no choice but allow passage .
Jordanians intercepted Iranian missiles heading to Israel ? But they made no effort in intercepting Israeli jets heading to Iran ? If true then they are not being even handed or neutral . They must either confront both or none . Otherwise they become a party to Israeli genocide war . Their AD , targeting Iranian missiles are legitimate targets .
The yanks may have provided intelligence to the Israelis , although Israelis have their own satellites . They have provided the weapons used , such as planes or may have provided extra Tankers , flown by American pilots . The yanks then have already engaged in the war directly . Their bases should be targeted directly , at a not too distant future . Diego Garcia could host nuclear bombers .
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Re: 2024 Iran–Israel conflict #2
— Four locations seem to have been hit, as per the current information:
1. Three to four minor impacts at a missile fuel mixing facility (likely for missiles) in Khojir and some of its support buildings in Parchin. Unclear if the installation was active.
2. One impact on a warehouse in Shamsabad Industrial City near Imam Khomeini Intl. Airport, 'Taksaz Industrial Innovators En.Co', a company related to agriculture and mining equipment.
3. One alleged impact at a radar site near Tehran province.
4. Impacts at radar sites in Dezful / Andimeshk in the South-Western air defense sector in Khuzestan province, and possibly also in Ilam province.
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1. Three to four minor impacts at a missile fuel mixing facility (likely for missiles) in Khojir and some of its support buildings in Parchin. Unclear if the installation was active.
2. One impact on a warehouse in Shamsabad Industrial City near Imam Khomeini Intl. Airport, 'Taksaz Industrial Innovators En.Co', a company related to agriculture and mining equipment.
3. One alleged impact at a radar site near Tehran province.
4. Impacts at radar sites in Dezful / Andimeshk in the South-Western air defense sector in Khuzestan province, and possibly also in Ilam province.
@Middle_East_Spectator