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    Post  GarryB Tue Oct 22, 2024 6:17 am

    These drones can do some very rough aiming if they have weather data for the altitude at which it will fly.  Basically you launch and select a flight altitude based on winds and the drone can climb higher mid route to change course if you need.  I suspect it would need a  dense enough target map to make every flight a winner. Other than that they'll be used as decoys when IIR guided SAM is missing.

    They will be horribly inaccurate, like V-1 and V-2 weapons from WWII where the only target they could reliably hit was London... because it was enormous.

    In effect these balloons would be ideal if the target was the Black Sea or open empty terrain in Russia.

    Blind firing of artillery shells would be about as accurate.

    This is a terror weapon, like the desperate incendiary balloons the Japanese launched at America during WWII to try to start forest fires.

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    Post  Hole Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:59 am

    So I presume the same is true of the Ukrainian army.
    This would mean that the health care system in Banderaland is as good as the Russian one.
    Which I doubt.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:32 am

    More sinister, I don't think the Russian medical care system is on the lookout for human organs to harvest... likely for paying customers in Europe and the US... or anywhere that they have money... like the Kiev doctors and nurses might.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:59 am

    sepheronx wrote:I like how Russia trolls everyone

    I have told you.
    This thing backfired in a way nobody of the perpetrators figured Laughing
    They are really pissing their pants now.

    An interesting interview with one of the commanders of the 21.OMBR, Alexander Tymoshchuk. He claims arriving to the Kurskaya Oblast with a strength of 350 men.
    What left the oblast was ... 40 people, of which 15 were alive as he was giving the testimony.
    Peremoga ...

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:00 pm

    There's been a lot of talk about the F-16s, but they've been in Ukraine for months, and there's no sign of them achieving much.
    Lately, they're not even mentioned.


    Cool

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:54 pm

    Well, it is even better.
    They did mentioned it a day or two ago, how hose are now "irrelevant to the effort" Laughing

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    Post  Arrow Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:00 pm

    Maybe they don't have enough suicidal pilots? Who in their right mind wants to take on the world's second largest air force and the first AD. Very Happy

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:53 pm

    Lack of salokadzhe can be the issue Laughing

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    Post  franco Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:10 pm

    Russian MoD reporting 2380 Ukrainian casualties over the past 24 hours including in the Kursk;

    During the day, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to more than 340 servicemen, 13 armored vehicles were destroyed, including three tanks, five infantry fighting vehicles, three of them Bradley BMP made in the USA, and five armored combat vehicles, as well as five artillery pieces, 11 vehicles and two electronic warfare stations. Six servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine surrendered.

    In total, during the fighting in the Kursk direction, the enemy lost 25,662 soldiers, 172 tanks, 89 infantry fighting vehicles, 103 armored personnel carriers, 982 armored combat vehicles, 675 vehicles, 221 artillery pieces, 38 multiple rocket launchers, including nine HIMARS and six MLRS manufactured by the United States, nine anti-aircraft missile launchers complexes, five transport-charging vehicles, 54 electronic warfare stations, 11 counter-battery radars, three air defense radars, 22 units of engineering and other equipment, of which 13 engineering barrier vehicles, one UR-77 mine clearance unit, as well as three armored recovery vehicles.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12534019@egNews

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:11 pm

    "Two Majors" TG - the first burned down Abrams near Kursk / near Vesoloye


    https://t.me/dva_majors/55634




    @ Flaming Python
    Stalin did reshuffle some Koreans, presumably because a large Japanese army was nearby, and they were afraid of spies/saboteurs. However even in the 2021/22 census, there were still slightly more than 100,000 Korean-Russians living in Russia.



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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:21 pm

    Pet's food and baby milk explosions in Odessa again.
    Vids in VK widget.


    https://rg.ru/2024/10/20/v-portu-odessy-nachalsia-silnyj-pozhar-posle-raketnogo-udara.html



    A major fire broke out in the port of Odessa after a missile strike

    Residents of Odessa are publishing photos and videos of a powerful fire in the port, where Iskander ballistic missiles have once again landed.

    The Odessa port - or rather all three ports of the Odessa agglomeration: the Odessa commercial port, the port of Chornomorsk and "Yuzhny" - are large transshipment bases for military cargo delivered by sea from NATO countries. Mainly from neighboring Romania.

    Therefore, Russian missiles visit Odessa berths with the same frequency as dry cargo ships under the flags of banana republics, but with ammunition and military equipment in their holds.

    This time the Iskanders hit something that burns very well. A crimson glow lit up half the sky above the southern cities, and the stars were covered by thick black smoke.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:25 pm

    my God man, the Russians need to stop hitting the Vatican issued exploding baby formula and guided missals

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Oct 22, 2024 5:20 pm

    The thing on Two Majors vid is clearly not M1.
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    Post  Mir Tue Oct 22, 2024 6:23 pm

    ALAMO wrote:The thing on Two Majors vid is clearly not M1.

    That's a Swedish CV-90. I did however saw a knocked out M1 together with a couple of CV-90's somewhere a few days ago.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:39 pm

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    It is reported that the Su-57 and Su-34M crews have begun using Kh-69 ASM with cluster warheads against strategically important rear facilities of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in . These missiles are highly effective in destroying personnel at training grounds, infantry concentrations, and aircraft in open parking lots, as well as passive and active phased array radar stations.

    The first Kh-69s delivered to the combat units of the VKS were equipped with penetrating-frag-HE warheads and demonstrated their high potential in overcoming the Ukrainian Air Force's anti-missile barriers formed by mixed batteries of Patriot PAC-2 GEM-C / PAC-3MSE air defense systems. This potential was achieved due to the low-altitude flight profile and the widespread use of composite materials and radar-absorbing materials in the airframe design, reducing the effective reflective surface to 0.02 - 0.03 sq. m. The Kh-69's range reaches 290 km

    Felon is jailbreaking NATO IADS and taking out manpower with cluster warhead stealth cruise missiles

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    Post  Isos Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:41 pm

    290km is the export version. IMO it's at least 400km.

    Kh-35 was 260km and they managed to bring it to 500km IIRC.

    Kh-69 is tge tactical cruise missile of the su-57. They will give it a good range.

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    Post  kvs Wed Oct 23, 2024 12:57 am

    Are we seriously discussing the Abrams as some sort of wunderwaffe? My God they took out such a prize. No, it couldn't be...

    It's just more NATzO trash used up on the Ukr front. Nothing special.

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    Post  lyle6 Wed Oct 23, 2024 2:34 am

    NATO armor is not even seen as a threat. The Russian soldier sees an Aybraps and he sees a mortgage thats about to be fully paid off.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:31 am

    https://t.me/milinfolive/133404

    Cool footage of a VDV combat air controller, so these are the guys designating coordinates for FABS or rocket strikes, one thing is that we see the effect of NAR launches with S13 rockets

    It would be interesting to see Ugroza variant with laser guidance

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    Post  Arrow Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:42 am

    There are rumors that talks are being held again regarding a mutual agreement not to attack energy infrastructure like in August. This is supposed to be a prelude to peace talks. Apparently Putin wants another Minsk if this is true, they have not learned that you do not negotiate with the West and Ukraine.
    Perhaps the conflict will be frozen, which will be a huge mistake for Putin.
    Russia has not attacked energy infrastructure etc. for a long time.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:46 am

    Newsweek:

    South Korean media claimed on Monday that Seoul could send military and intelligence personnel to Ukraine after the North dispatched troops to support Russia in the war.

    A report said the government and military of South Korea "are reviewing a plan to send an appropriate number of personnel, including intelligence officers [specialized in North Korea] and experts in enemy tactics," to Ukraine, citing a South Korean intelligence official.

    https://www.newsweek.com/south-korea-news-could-follow-north-russia-ukraine-war-1972082




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    ALAMO wrote:The thing on Two Majors vid is clearly not M1.

    That's a Swedish CV-90. I did however saw a knocked out M1 together with a couple of CV-90's somewhere a few days ago.

    My bad i didn't notice in tiny smartphone display but th emiost important is that M1 is destroyed as well Smile

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:53 am

    kvs wrote:Are we seriously discussing the Abrams as some sort of wunderwaffe?  

    No.
    We are discussing the questionable competency level of "telegram whistleblowers", which still forms the public perspective.

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    Post  Hole Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:16 am

    South Korean media claimed on Monday
    The same media that claimed for years that Kim killed his uncle, his girlfriend, his sister and a lot of other people
    that later showed up alive. Rolling Eyes

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    Post  PhSt Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:29 am


    South Korean media claimed on Monday that Seoul could send military and intelligence personnel to Ukraine after the North dispatched troops to support Russia in the war.

    A report said the government and military of South Korea "are reviewing a plan to send an appropriate number of personnel, including intelligence officers [specialized in North Korea] and experts in enemy tactics," to Ukraine, citing a South Korean intelligence official.

    Then Russia needs to KILL these interlopers along with their "volunteer" NATzO buddies
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    Post  GarryB Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:33 am

    These missiles are highly effective in destroying personnel at training grounds, infantry concentrations, and aircraft in open parking lots, as well as passive and active phased array radar stations.

    To be fair it is not about the missile or delivery system, it is about an area soft target like people or large radar antenna that are fragile, or aircraft spaced apart so big bombs wont take them all out.

    Cluster munitions are ideal for soft or fragile targets over a large area... thank you to the US for making these an acceptable weapon of war again... in comparison a single explosive of a few hundred kgs would be much less effective than cluster munitions that spread the fragments and blast so much more effectively.

    one thing is that we see the effect of NAR launches with S13 rockets

    It would be interesting to see Ugroza variant with laser guidance

    Laser homing S-13 rockets would be interesting... the S-13 rockets are rather huge, 122mm calibre rockets designed for the purpose of penetrating hardened aircraft shelters and destroying aircraft parked inside. Their 80mm S-8 rockets have warheads up to about 8kgs, while the warheads for the S-13 rockets come in a variety of types up to 33-37kgs... the original S-13T has a dual warhead that comes in two parts... a 90mm calibre 21kg warhead to blow a hole in the structure 6m of earth and 1m of concrete with a follow up warhead of of about 16kg to explode inside the hardened aircraft shelter to spread fire and fragments to destroy the contents of the shelter.

    Obviously such rockets would be effective on buildings and bunkers and other structures too, and quite devastating against light armoured vehicles I suspect too.

    Later models are 122mm calibre end to end...

    Their direct fire range is only about 3km or so, but the HE Frag model would be rather powerful lofted towards troops on open ground, and of course a laser homing model could be lofted towards the target with a good chance of a direct hit beyond the direct fire range...

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