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    Georgia's possible rapprochement with Russia.

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    Post  Kiko Fri Jul 05, 2024 7:27 pm

    US Postpones Joint Military Exercises with Georgia, 07.05.2024.

    Pentagon: US postpones joint exercises with Georgia indefinitely.

    WASHINGTON, July 5 — RIA Novosti. The United States has postponed joint military exercises with Georgia due to a review of bilateral relations, the Pentagon announced.

    "The United States has initiated a comprehensive review of bilateral US-Georgia relations. As part of this review, the United States will indefinitely postpone the Noble Partner exercises," the statement said.

    The exercises were scheduled for July 25 – August 6.

    The Pentagon said it made the decision because of "false accusations" made by the Georgian government: Tbilisi allegedly accused the United States and other Western countries of pressuring it to open a second front against Russia and participating in two attempted coups against the ruling party.

    "In this situation, the US government has concluded that now is not the right time to conduct large-scale exercises in Georgia," the US military department concluded.
    At the same time, they assured that they would continue their partnership with the Georgian Armed Forces.

    The Georgian Defence Ministry expressed regret over the Pentagon's decision. It emphasized that the two countries have mutually beneficial formats of cooperation in the defense and security spheres, which will continue despite the postponement of the exercises.

    At the end of May, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken announced a comprehensive review of bilateral cooperation with Georgia and a new policy on visa restrictions. The reason was the adoption by the Georgian parliament of the law "On Transparency of Foreign Influence". This document provides for the registration of non-profit legal entities and media outlets whose income, in particular more than 20 percent, is received from abroad.

    Opponents call it an analogue of the Russian law on foreign agents. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov called these statements absurd, recalling that the first country to come up with a system for combating foreign agents was the United States.

    The procedures around the law were accompanied by mass protests, President Salome Zurabishvili refused to sign it, but the parliament overrode the presidential veto. Western countries issued threats against Tbilisi , and the EU promised to freeze Georgia's application for membership in the union.

    The ruling party of Georgia called the US decision to reconsider relations comical and unprecedented, noting that the policy of blackmail and threats does not correspond to the spirit of strategic partnership.

    https://ria.ru/20240705/ssha-1957725856.html

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    Post  GarryB Sat Jul 06, 2024 5:06 am

    The ruling party of Georgia called the US decision to reconsider relations comical and unprecedented, noting that the policy of blackmail and threats does not correspond to the spirit of strategic partnership.

    Comical, yes... unprecendented? you have not been paying attention Georgia... they do this all the time... it is all about control and when you stop NGOs and media funded by foreign countries operating in your country then you take away some of their control.

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    Post  nomadski Sat Jul 06, 2024 6:39 am

    @ Kiko

    Nice article and so so funny ! Reminds me of a bad marriage : The husband - abusive , unloving , violent , the wife - romantic fool in love with a bastard , who thinks she can change him and continues to suffer ! Baking him a cake and waiting patiently at home for him ! He , coming home late smelling of alcohol and lipstick on his collar !

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    Post  ucmvulcan Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:28 am

    nomadski wrote:@ Kiko

    Nice article and so so funny ! Reminds me of a bad marriage : The husband - abusive , unloving  , violent , the wife - romantic fool in love with a bastard , who thinks she can change him and continues to suffer ! Baking him a cake and waiting patiently at home for him ! He , coming home late smelling of alcohol and lipstick on his collar !

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    America is like a bossy three year old. If you don't play the games it wants and do everything it says, it takes its toys and goes home and as its leaving the playground it says the meanest things it can.

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    Post  Regular Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:16 pm

    Who stuffed Saaka into jail?
    Majority of Georgians are smarter than Ukrainians or even Armenians of today, so warming relationships would be beneficial for both. They could play mini-Turkey and earn some money instead of being NATOs lapdog

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    Post  Kiko Tue Jul 09, 2024 12:09 pm

    US Seeking to Change of Power in Georgia Following Fall Elections - Russia's Intelligence, 07.09.2024.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) - Russia has data that indicates the decision of the United States to seek a change of power in Georgia following the results of the parliamentary elections on October 26, the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) said on Tuesday.

    "The the data received by the SVR indicates Washington's determination to seek a change of power in Georgia following the results of the upcoming October 26 parliamentary elections in the country. [US President] Joe Biden's administration has already developed a large-scale information campaign to discredit the ruling Georgian Dream party," the statement read.

    The US instructors have already given the command to the opposition forces in Georgia to start planning protests in the country timed to coincide with the elections, the intelligence service said.

    "Georgian President Salome Zourabichvili should play a key role in inciting anti-government sentiment. As planned by the 'Washington directors,' the head of state will give an interview to one of US media, in which he will blame the Georgian government for the 'degradation' of the negotiation process on Tbilisi's accession to the EU, warn the 'general public' about the 'catastrophic consequences of rapprochement with Moscow," the statement read.

    Under the US plan a "sacred sacrifice" of protesters is envisaged for the change of power in Georgia, which will direct the "anger of the nation" at the security forces, the SVR said.

    https://sputnikglobe.com/20240709/us-seeking-to-change-of-power-in-georgia-following-fall-elections---russias-intelligence-1119306334.html

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    Post  Kiko Tue Jul 09, 2024 12:19 pm

    EU suspends Georgia's accession process, 07.09.2024.

    TBILISI (Sputnik) — The European Union (EU) stopped the process of Georgia's integration into the bloc, said the EU ambassador to the Caucasian country Pawel Herczynski. The EU diplomat also criticized the Georgian law that makes foreign influence transparent in the country, calling it "a backward step."

    "The intentions of the current Government of Georgia are not clear to the leaders of the European Union (...) Georgia's accession has stopped at the moment," the diplomat said at a press appearance.

    According to Herczynski, "anti-Western and anti-European rhetoric is incompatible with the stated goal of EU membership."

    Georgia aims to join the EU by 2030, as stated by the prime minister of this country, Irakli Kobajidze, at an event in Germany on June 21.

    The EU leadership threatened Georgia with closing the door on accession after that country approved the foreign agents registration act in mid-May, a regulation similar to a 1938 US legislation known as FARA.

    Georgian legislation seeks to protect the country from foreign interference in its internal politics.

    The Georgian FARA law obliges organizations that promote the interests of a foreign power and that receive at least 20% of funding from abroad, to register with the register of foreign agents.

    According to the Georgian leadership, the regulation complies with the basic legal principles and its sole purpose is the annual publication of the finances of non-governmental organizations, mass media and others.

    Georgia submitted its application for EU membership in March 2022.

    Yandex Translate from Spanish.

    https://latamnews.lat/20240709/la-ue-suspende-el-proceso-de-incorporacion-de-georgia-1156009159.html

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    Post  kvs Tue Jul 09, 2024 12:41 pm

    A FARA type law is being used as a pretext for all sorts of BS. The NATzO west demonstrates its rotten essence every day. Beware those who claim
    to be the "good guys". Actual good guys do not advertise their goodness. Wolf in sheep's clothing is what is applicable to the west. Too bad that
    so many saps around the world fall for this sham.

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Tue Jul 09, 2024 1:11 pm

    The thing is that the West is viewed as the beacon of prosperity in the world.

    Just look up where all the rich non westerners want their money to be and their kids to be educated at - even Xi Jinping's daughter studied at Harvard.

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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:28 pm

    To be fair, the USA, with possession of the majority of capital and deep rooted networks of infrastructure and core techs, provides good training environment for higher education skills (R&D, mainstream economy, etc...) for anyone that have money or connections to access to it. Much of the current center of R&D and financial-economic activities are controlled by USA and Western allies, although other countries are increasingly challenging them.

    So yes, going to a top, credible institution in the West or forming connections with Western experts in the respective sector, is still a beneficial choice of many non-Westerners, either it is for personal career or for strategic plan of acquiring expertise for the countries that sending them aboard. Assume that the international students at least have a pragmatic mind of their own career prospects instead of indulging themselves in fake American dreams.

    Although I guess that USA is notorious for expressing (and exploiting) the talents of ones instead of cultivating talents.

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    Post  flamming_python Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:44 am

    The West drains brains from the rest of the world in the same manner as it monopolizes capital and ownership and financial control away from them

    A parasitical system and 'global' economic model, a poker game where the house always wins, and nothing more

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    Post  GarryB Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:41 am


    According to Herczynski, "anti-Western and anti-European rhetoric is incompatible with the stated goal of EU membership."

    Yes, openness and transparency is incompatible with EU morals and ethics.... this is an open admission that the EU and US are using NGOs to control Georgia and this law they introduced based on a law the US introduced 70+ years ago will damage their ability to take control of georgia and open a second front for Russia.

    It seems joining the EU will cost Georgia blood and lead to a direct open conflict with Russia... I would suggest better relations with Russia might be more profitable and economically beneficial as Russia moves up an economic bar, they are going to be interested in good quality wine and good food and a nice place to visit where the locals understand Russian... how many Americans that don't wear uniforms are going to visit if they don't choose that path?

    The thing is that the West is viewed as the beacon of prosperity in the world.

    If it was then countries would be queueing to join AUKUS and HATO... if the western model of growth and development worked there would be no third world by now... there would be the west and the countries that chose communism...

    Instead there is the west at 12-13%, there is the second world, which is essentially the west in terms of technology and potential, but the bad guys... commies or Russians or Iranians... and there is the third world... which is stuck and held down because the west wont pay a fair price for anything they buy from them so of course they never grow.

    Just look up where all the rich non westerners want their money to be and their kids to be educated at - even Xi Jinping's daughter studied at Harvard.

    Academically such universities are not held in high regard... they are old boys clubs to bump into the rich and powerful and to create connections.

    Such schools make special deals for such students to go because that is part of how western soft power works.

    Although I guess that USA is notorious for expressing (and exploiting) the talents of ones instead of cultivating talents.

    Until their dollar no longer has any real value and then what will they have?

    At one time it was carrot and stick... now it is just stick... and it is backfiring because it is forcing countries like Iran and North Korea and Russia and China and Cuba and even Vietnam and India, but also countries like Brazil and South Africa to start to work together and create alternatives to the western dominated international organisations.

    It is funny... the west will ram down your throat about climate change and other such nonsense, but when push comes to shove, they will add financial penalties to their own people trying to buy electric vehicles coming from China in the interests of protecting their own car makers... so European and US car makers are more important than saving the planet it seems...


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    Post  Kiko Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:06 pm

    Wine supplies from Georgia to Russia increased by 36% in 2024, 07.11.2024.

    In the first six months of 2024, Georgia exported 54.5 million litres of wine, which is 26% more than the same period last year. 75% of Georgian wine exports were sent to Russia, the local publication Commersant reports , citing data from the National Wine Agency.

    Wine supplies from Georgia to Russia in the first half of 2024 amounted to 41 million litres worth $111 million. As Interfax specifies, wine exports from Georgia to Russia in the first half of the year increased by 36%.

    According to the National Wine Agency, the country's revenues from wine exports increased by 24% in the first half of 2024 and amounted to $156.7 million. Four of the top five exporting countries are in the post-Soviet space. In addition to Russia, these are Kazakhstan, Ukraine, and Belarus. The fifth country in terms of supply volumes is the United States.

    The average export price for 1 litre of Georgian wine, according to data for the first six months of 2024, is $2.88.

    Currently, wines from Georgia are supplied to Russia with zero duty. In March 2024, the Association of Winegrowers and Winemakers of Russia (AVVR) approached the Russian government with a proposal to cancel the duty-free import of Georgian wines to Russia. As RBC Vino wrote , this initiative continues to be discussed in the government and may be implemented in August of this year.

    https://www.rbc.ru/wine/news/668fec8b9a7947fa3d1c2379

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    Post  GarryB Fri Jul 12, 2024 5:40 am

    Just look up where all the rich non westerners want their money to be and their kids to be educated at - even Xi Jinping's daughter studied at Harvard.

    In many ways it is part of the colonial control system that enables the rich and powerful in the third world to rub elbows with the children of the people who control their countries.

    The few that are allowed to become rich must get the propaganda message the strongest... keep doing as you are told or all this will go away for you and we will just get another bush bunny to be an uncle Tom in your place.

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    Post  Kiko Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:19 pm

    Georgia Wants to Avoid a Cold in the “Draft at NATO’s Door”, by Dmitry Alexandrov from Tbilisi for VZGLYAD. 07.12.2024.

    The Chairman of the Georgian Parliament, Shalva Papuashvili, expressed disappointment at the lack of concrete decisions from the North Atlantic Alliance regarding his country and Ukraine, which were promised NATO membership back in 2008, a Vzglyad correspondent reports in Tbilisi.

    "At one time, (former Georgian President) Eduard Shevardnadze said that when you stand for a long time at an open door, you can catch a cold in a draft. These words are relevant today," said the head of Georgia's highest legislative body.

    According to him, these doors have been open for 16 years, but there is still no decision on membership. Shalva Papuashvili said that "Georgia does not need conditions, but decisions."

    "This is what NATO members should think about - security is not provided by promises, but by decisions," he said.

    According to him, in essence, “no new decisions have been made regarding Ukraine either; they have repeated what was said 16 years ago.”

    “It is unclear when and how Ukraine will join NATO, and this is despite the fact that Ukraine has been fighting for two years, defending Europe and containing Russia,” he noted.

    https://vz.ru/news/2024/7/12/1277241.html
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    Post  Broski Fri Jul 12, 2024 4:59 pm

    The Chairman of the Georgian Parliament, Shalva Papuashvili, expressed disappointment at the lack of concrete decisions from the North Atlantic Alliance regarding his country and Ukraine, which were promised NATO membership back in 2008, a Vzglyad correspondent reports in Tbilisi.
    Promises are comfort only to a fool.

    "At one time, (former Georgian President) Eduard Shevardnadze said that when you stand for a long time at an open door, you can catch a cold in a draft. These words are relevant today," said the head of Georgia's highest legislative body.
    But you still wait patiently by the door, shivering, like a well trained dog. If only your average woman were as loyal as eastern europeons are to NATO.

    According to him, these doors have been open for 16 years, but there is still no decision on membership. Shalva Papuashvili said that "Georgia does not need conditions, but decisions."
    And what the hell will you do if they make you wait another 16 years? Beggars can't be choosers.

    "This is what NATO members should think about - security is not provided by promises, but by decisions," he said.
    NATO has never been about security, but geopolitical dominance. Even before 1991.

    According to him, in essence, “no new decisions have been made regarding Ukraine either; they have repeated what was said 16 years ago.”
    Convincing 2 idiots to fight Russia as their proxy force has been a good deal for NATO, why should they let you in the door if you're willing to fight their enemies outside for free?

    “It is unclear when and how Ukraine will join NATO, and this is despite the fact that Ukraine has been fighting for two years, defending Europe and containing Russia,” he noted.
    The Ukraine will never be a member of NATO, they will fight to the last man and then their country will disappear from the map. Georgia is free to do the same if it wants to.

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    Post  Kiko Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:55 pm

    State Department: US freezes aid to Georgia, 07.12.2024.

    US Assistant Secretary of State for Civilian Security, Democracy, and Human Rights Uzra Zeya said that American authorities have frozen aid to Georgia.
    As RIA Novosti writes , she told journalists about this while summing up her visit to Georgia.

    “The United States has frozen aid to Georgia, and Georgia’s integration into the European Union has also been suspended,” the State Department representative noted.

    She added that the US authorities are concerned about the anti-democratic actions of the Georgian authorities.

    Earlier, the SVR reported that Washington is determined to achieve a change of power in Georgia based on the results of the parliamentary elections in the country.

    The Foreign Intelligence Service press office stated that the US plan to change power in Georgia calls for a “sacred victim” from among the protesters.

    The SVR also said that the US could be preparing a “color revolution” in Georgia with the help of President Salome Zurabishvili.

    https://russian.rt.com/world/news/1340540-ssha-zamorozka-pomosch-gruziya

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    Post  TMA1 Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:11 pm

    Take that, Georgia. You guys could do so many things but the NGO transparency law was a step too far.

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    Post  kvs Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:58 pm

    Next we will have chorus in the fake stream NATzO media that Georgia is run by a "pro-Putin regime".

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    Post  GarryB Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:59 am

    The Ukraine will never be a member of NATO, they will fight to the last man and then their country will disappear from the map. Georgia is free to do the same if it wants to.

    And that is the joke these idiots are not understanding... the task is to weaken Russia and Ukraine is doing that to the last man without any actual membership beyond vague promises that are not in writing... former Soviet states should understand that game because they also promised not to expand one inch to the east.

    But more fundamentally striving to join HATO is what is getting Ukraine destroyed at this moment... you would think Georgia would be smart enough to realise having HATO there would also be a red line for Russia too.

    So they can go to war against Russia and bleed for a HATO that wont accept you until you beat Russia, or you can improve relations with Russia and start making more money than you could ever hope to make as part of HATO... joining HATO wont suddenly bring lots of western dollars to Georgia... it will bring demands that Georgia spends 2% of GPD on defence... most of it being weapons and ammo that they make and want to sell to you.

    It will also create real hostility from Russia if not war... you have free choice, but if you care about your country then the choice is pretty obvious... of course that is no guarantee because Yakokovich made the sensible choice too despite not being pro Russian, he still was overthrown in a coup paid for by the US.


    The Foreign Intelligence Service press office stated that the US plan to change power in Georgia calls for a “sacred victim” from among the protesters.

    The SVR also said that the US could be preparing a “color revolution” in Georgia with the help of President Salome Zurabishvili.

    A sacred victim... and President Salome Zurabishvili... will they martyr their own stooge to get what they want?

    Zelensky would be killed overnight if they thought that would bring them closer to victory so this actual president should be careful...

    Take that, Georgia. You guys could do so many things but the NGO transparency law was a step too far.

    To be clear, you could break any international law you want, but don't create laws that would expose us and weaken our control of your society... that is part of how we get away with what we get away with.

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:51 am

    I will just remind you, that Mrs. Zurabashvili owns a French passport.
    When we are discussing a "foreign agent" issue - she is just an perfect example.
    Closely connected with Saaka regime, she became a Georgian minister of foreign affairs being transferred directly from the position of French ambassador to Georgia.
    And she became one in a straight jump from the French MoFA department head.
    What is even more hilarious, and I guess that hardly anyone knows that she was getting paid by the French MoFA for a whole time being ... Georgian minister Laughing Laughing Laughing
    She became a president in frauded elections in 2018, and the fact that it has been frauded is an opinion of OSCE observers. Those called multiple violations, extremely aggressive and negative campaign, and as it was diplomatic and mildly called "a full and unprecedented support of the ruling party and governmental bodies".
    Those are the "values of the garden".
    Do you smell the roses already?

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    Post  Kiko Sat Jul 13, 2024 2:38 pm

    Georgia Calls on US for 'Concrete Conversation', by Dmitry Alexandrov from Tbilisi for VZGLYAD. 07.13.2024.

    Georgian Prime Minister Irakli Kobakhidze said that the country is “optimistic” about improving relations with the United States, but expects to hear “concrete arguments” regarding Washington’s claims against it, a Vzglyad correspondent reports in Tbilisi.

    According to the Georgian Prime Minister, during a meeting with Deputy Secretary of State Uzra Zeya, when asked about which specific States see “democratic deterioration,” he heard only “general assessments.”

    "I called for you to talk to us about comments specifically in the future. Otherwise, it will be difficult for us to respond to general assessments," the head of government said.

    According to Kobakhidze, Georgia also does not hear “arguments and specifics” against the law “On Transparency of Foreign Influence,” after the adoption of which the US and EU countries froze aid to Tbilisi, including military aid.

    The prime minister said Georgia expects "significant changes" in terms of improving relations with the United States early next year.

    "I am optimistic. But it is important for us to see reciprocal steps. We are in a waiting mode," the prime minister said.

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    Post  kvs Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:05 pm

    Simply delusional. The only "conversation" that the US tolerates is that of submission. It has been over 33 years since the fall of the USSR but there
    are still clowns drinking the cold war koolaid about how great the west is. Bend over and spread them wider.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:27 am

    Hahahaha... sounds like the "But I am a loyal servant of the US, all this anger and venom being spat in my direction must be a mistake or perhaps a misunderstanding... lets talk about this and work it all out".

    Saddam and Yanukovich probably had similar thoughts in their heads for a very short period of time and then realised they got on the wrong side of a psychopath and there is no going back after that.

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