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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Jun 13, 2024 5:05 pm

    If you don’t want to hit NATO bases, use the Israeli/Mossad method

    Level the embassy with NATO officers in it , and let them respond

    Should they respond the way Iran did, and hit your territory , then you hit them back on their territory

    But Israel didn’t stop there, they sabotaged the Iranian presidents plane and eliminated a decision maker

    That’s what Russia should do if it plans on treating all these strikes as done through a NATO proxy

    Israel said okay, we won’t hit Iran, but we will kill IRGC officers in Syria

    It was only after Iran hit Israeli territory by use of their drones and missiles from their territory that Israel responded on Iran and went a step further by taking out decision makers


    Further I will add NATO hit the Chinese embassy in Yugoslavia, Israel hit the Iranian embassy in Syria, and Ecuador raided the Mexican embassy in Quito

    It’s only the west and it’s proxies who disregard diplomatic immunity and property

    So at least Russia can match them in the way they respond

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:00 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:But Israel didn’t stop there, they sabotaged the Iranian presidents plane and eliminated a decision maker.
    no, in naval terms he was an executive officer; Ayatollah Khamenei is the real
    decision maker, so the Israelis could care less about him; more likely his internal enemies could sabotage his helo.
    Wider European war on the horizon

    https://regnum.ru/article/3895313

    https://www.ng.ru/armies/2024-06-13/100_13062024_potential.html?print=Y

    https://ura.news/news/1052780585

    https://www.ng.ru/world/2024-06-11/100_11062024_nato.html?print=Y

    https://www.newsweek.com/russia-nuclear-drills-nato-belarus-leningrad-district-1912221


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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:14 pm

    Still burning but now we likely know where.


    Near Kiev, an oil depot at the Vasilkov airfield has been burning for 1.5 days


    “In the Kyiv region, a fire continues at an industrial enterprise,” reports the State Emergency Service.


    There are 249 rescuers, 98 units of equipment, and four firefighting trains on site. - RVvoenkor


    Meanwhile. other much smaller fires are lit Very Happy 

    Mass arson of military vehicles continues in Ukraine.

     "Another dark green minivan was burned in the Kyiv region," local media reported. Empty gasoline bottles were found nearby.

    The second arson of a minibus occurred in Dnepropetrovsk at night; it was burned in the same area where another military minibus was burned the other day.

    Recently, military minibuses are being burned more and more often at night in Ukraine, the Kyiv media reminds. - RVvoenkor


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    Post  Kiko Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:33 pm

    Yanquis are getting insolent, so send in bombers for long range drills.

    Yanquis send nuclear submarine to Guantanamo in response to Russian military exercises in Cuba, 06.13.2024.

    On Thursday (13), the United States moved a nuclear submarine to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, after the arrival of Russian warships in the region for naval exercises.

    The USS Helena, a U.S. Navy submarine, arrived on the scene in what U.S. Southern Command (USSOUTHCOM) described as a "routine port visit."

    The presence of the Russian ships, which includes a frigate and a nuclear submarine, is part of previously announced military exercises.

    These exercises take place in the context of the historical partnership between Russia and Cuba, and are interpreted as a gesture of demonstration of power in the scenario of current international relations.

    While the Yanquis don't consider the Russian drills a direct threat, national security adviser Jake Sullivan said the U.S. Navy is monitoring the situation closely.

    In addition to the submarine, three missile-launching destroyers, a Coast Guard ship and a maritime patrol aircraft were assigned to watch the Russian ships.

    Cuba's Foreign Ministry stressed that the exercises are a joint operation between two nations with deep historical ties. According to the ministry, "none of the boats carry nuclear weapons, so the stop in our country does not pose a threat to the region."

    On the way to Cuba, Russian ships conducted maneuvers in the Atlantic Ocean, simulating attacks on sea targets with hypersonic missiles, as reported by the Russian Defence Ministry.

    On the way to Cuba, Russian ships conducted maneuvers in the Atlantic Ocean, simulating attacks on sea targets with hypersonic missiles, as reported by the Russian Defence Ministry.

    Yandex Translate from Portuguese.

    https://noticiabrasil.net.br/20240613/eua-enviam-submarino-nuclear-para-guantanamo-em-resposta-a-exercicios-militares-russos-em-cuba-35103757.html

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    Post  ucmvulcan Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:12 am

    Kiko wrote:Yanquis are getting insolent, so send in bombers for long range drills.

    Yanquis send nuclear submarine to Guantanamo in response to Russian military exercises in Cuba, 06.13.2024.

    On Thursday (13), the United States moved a nuclear submarine to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, after the arrival of Russian warships in the region for naval exercises.

    The USS Helena, a U.S. Navy submarine, arrived on the scene in what U.S. Southern Command (USSOUTHCOM) described as a "routine port visit."

    The presence of the Russian ships, which includes a frigate and a nuclear submarine, is part of previously announced military exercises.

    These exercises take place in the context of the historical partnership between Russia and Cuba, and are interpreted as a gesture of demonstration of power in the scenario of current international relations.

    While the Yanquis don't consider the Russian drills a direct threat, national security adviser Jake Sullivan said the U.S. Navy is monitoring the situation closely.

    In addition to the submarine, three missile-launching destroyers, a Coast Guard ship and a maritime patrol aircraft were assigned to watch the Russian ships.

    Cuba's Foreign Ministry stressed that the exercises are a joint operation between two nations with deep historical ties. According to the ministry, "none of the boats carry nuclear weapons, so the stop in our country does not pose a threat to the region."

    On the way to Cuba, Russian ships conducted maneuvers in the Atlantic Ocean, simulating attacks on sea targets with hypersonic missiles, as reported by the Russian Defence Ministry.

    On the way to Cuba, Russian ships conducted maneuvers in the Atlantic Ocean, simulating attacks on sea targets with hypersonic missiles, as reported by the Russian Defence Ministry.

    Yandex Translate from Portuguese.

    https://noticiabrasil.net.br/20240613/eua-enviam-submarino-nuclear-para-guantanamo-em-resposta-a-exercicios-militares-russos-em-cuba-35103757.html

    Russia's ships and tu-142s should practice sinking US submarines off Cuba, awww you mean that depth charge was live? D'oh! Oh well, that's what happens when we are forced to use microchips from washing machines

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    Post  kvs Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:25 am

    The problem is that we can have an accidental sequence of events that will send us all to Hell. Too many lunatics running too many
    asylums. It can't be assumed that the yanquis will not push the nuclear button when their situation goes to shit. They are the
    ones playing stupid games and assuming that they will not be winning any stupid prizes.

    I am starting to doubt that the shadow elites have all their marbles.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:14 am

    Kiko wrote:
    Yanquis send nuclear submarine to Guantanamo in response to Russian military exercises in Cuba, 06.13.2024.

    According to the ministry, "none of the boats carry nuclear weapons, so the stop in our country does not pose a threat to the region."


    Haha... thats funny.  Sure...  a 22350 frigate and a Yasen-M attack sub are deployed without nukes at a time of massively heightened tensions with the Clown Empire...  Anyone looking to buy a bridge?   Razz

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:40 am

    There r many NPPs & other nuclear sites on the US E/Gulf Coast that Yasen SSGN can strike with Tsirkons, so nukes r not even needed there.

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    Post  Broski Fri Jun 14, 2024 3:08 am

    kvs wrote:The problem is that we can have an accidental sequence of events that will send us all to Hell.   Too many lunatics running too many asylums. It can't be assumed that the yanquis will not push the nuclear button when their situation goes to shit. They are the ones playing stupid games and assuming that they will not be winning any stupid prizes.

    True, but asking "Are they crazy enough to launch nukes" is the wrong question in my opinion, because the simple answer is yes. The correct question is are they willing to lose Europe and North America, infrastructure and all, to try and wipe out Russia? Where would the people responsible for triggering WW3 run to? Australia? New Zealand? Good luck hiding from Russian subs or the pissed off natives there.

    That's why they speak of "Freezing the conflict", "Limited nuclear war on [Eastern] European soil" and "Unbalancing Russia to achieve Yugoslavia 2.0" instead. I'll say it again, these people are cowards beyond words and unlike the Russians, aren't willing to sacrifice their lives nor their lavish lifestyles in order to defeat the enemy, hence this brutal proxy war in the Ukraine.

    I am starting to doubt that the shadow elites have all their marbles.

    They're insane, but not suicidal. Even the most bloodthirsty animal has a strong sense of self preservation and these psychopaths aren't any different.

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    Post  billybatts91 Fri Jun 14, 2024 6:42 am

    The fact that Russia doesn't destroy these is an embarrassment...

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    Now he flies around Sochi.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:12 am

    Transponders off?

    Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz

    This moron thinks Russia cant locate Global Hawks unless the drones transponders are live? LOL. These seppo cnts get more stupid by the second. Thats maybe why they losing this conflict on every useful metric.

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:50 am

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:
    Refusniks (soldiers who refuse to fight)?

    Nah, what I meant was 200+300 Very Happy

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    Patriot hunt again Very Happy

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:45 am

    Who needs a nuke?

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    Post  Arrow Fri Jun 14, 2024 10:39 am

    https://t.me/divgen/49775

    Does Russia only want those regions that it has officially introduced into the Russian Federation? If Ukraine signs a worthless piece of paper stating that it will not join NATO, that will be enough for it. Shocked
    Without cutting off Ukraine from the sea, the seizure of Kharkov, Odessa, etc. is a strategic loss for Russia.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Jun 14, 2024 10:51 am


    This is OT but where is Russia's own Thousand fleet of satellites and its counterpart to the Falcon 9, if these systems can play such a decisive role in warfare, Russia should have developed similar systems to keep a high level of warfighting capabilities against adversaries like NATzO

    The west has such extensive coverage because they dominate the world and can use their riches, which they have bled from the rest of the world to pay for all these satellites which allow them to see and to an extent control what is happening so in effect they pay for themselves.

    For Russia to build a similar array they would essentially have to become a white European colonial slave master to justify and pay for the upkeep of this spy network... which is optimised for keeping the poor poorer, and the rich richer.

    Blah, blah, blah, digital wunderwaffe and other voodoo.

    A new military command and control network Russia can learnt to exploit, fool and interfere with.

    Finding emitters and nodes on this network and taking them out will be a high priority for the Russian military moving forward.

    “I welcome that the alliance countries have reduced the level of restrictions or canceled them regarding strikes on military targets on Russian territory... I will not go into various aspects and details, I will only say that Ukraine has the right to defend itself, and we have the right to help it,” - said the NATO Secretary General. At the same time, he once again emphasized that the alliance’s actions do not mean participation in a military conflict.

    It is funny that he recognises that HATO and Kiev have rights but he ignores that Russia has rights too... Sometimes rights overlap, sometimes they cancel each other out. The irony is that any attack by Kiev that kills civilians in Russia is Kievs right to defence but Russians hitting military targets in Ukraine is aggression and escalation, and they wont even consider that Russia might hit Kievs F-16s based in HATO countries as legitimate targets.


    which one is more retarded ? Suggesting war by direct attack on US manufacturing and launching site or just build a large jamming station to scramble the Starlink operation in the field.

    The US is fighting for 12 trillion dollars in resources so perhaps hits on US mainland positions by Ukrainian irregular terrorists might be a more interesting escalation than jammers.

    Of course rather than jamming, often hacking the system and introducing false targets and of course using the network to locate all the active nodes of the network for direct targeting via artillery is probably a smarter solution.

    Too many red lines being passed, and being used against Russia. This would never have happened in Cold War 1.

    But that is the point... they haven't actually flown attack missions using F-16 fighters to attack targets in the Ukraine or Russia so that red line has not been crossed yet, but you still complain that they wont react even if they do cross that red line.

    How about waiting till the Russians confirm that F-16s are being used before complaining about no response from Russia?

    If they get the chance their first response will almost certainly be to shoot the planes down, and their second response will be to carefully look and find out which airfields it operates from and if there are other aircraft there... and if there are they will likely try and hit those on the ground... whether in Ukraine or Romania or Poland.

    Putin fucked up (much as I love him, but he admits he made a mistake himself).

    I would say Russian intel fucked up if they didn't work out what HATO was doing and talking about in private. Unless Putin got advice that Germany and France were lying pieces of shit that were setting him up to stab him in the back, and chose to ignore the warnings.

    Maybe this was all 20D chess... he knew they were lying and pretended to believe them to achieve what he is achieving now... the complete severance of Russia from the west and the economic destruction of the EU... and the creation of an alternative to the west in the form of BRICS... something that could not be achieved by Russia and Putin alone.

    He needs to smell the coffee and scare these vermin in DC and Brussels. And get them to stop their Nazi and similar terrorist collaboration. NOW.

    But don't you see he has achieved better than that... by separating Russia from the western alliance it doesn't matter who the west chooses to support or fund because they are no longer relevant to Russia or the rest of the world... isolation was a punishment the west loved to inflict on countries that didn't do as the west commanded... well now they are being sent into isolation and their economies are going to suffer...

    If you don’t want to hit NATO bases, use the Israeli/Mossad method

    Level the embassy with NATO officers in it , and let them respond

    The US embassy in Kiev has thousands of workers... and they are not helping locals fill out applications for green cards...

    But Israel didn’t stop there, they sabotaged the Iranian presidents plane and eliminated a decision maker

    Before you use Israel as a basis for future behaviour Israel would not exist right now without endless funding from the US and EU and their blind support in the UN.

    Where would the people responsible for triggering WW3 run to? Australia? New Zealand? Good luck hiding from Russian subs or the pissed off natives there.

    Good luck to any rich and powerful turning up here during WWIII with your US dollars. We don't accept foreign currency... did you bring any gold?  When the world ends there is nothing like getting a fresh supply of meat...

    Transponders off?

    Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz

    This moron thinks Russia cant locate Global Hawks unless the drones transponders are live? LOL. These seppo cnts get more stupid by the second. Thats maybe why they losing this conflict on every useful metric.

    Actually flying drones with transponders is unsafe practice and a rational response would be to shoot it down as a threat to civilian and military air traffic...

    Does Russia only want those regions that it has officially introduced into the Russian Federation? If Ukraine signs a worthless piece of paper stating that it will not join NATO, that will be enough for it.

    I am guessing after Minsk 1 and 2 and the talks in Istanbul that the wording of the new agreement will be crystal clear and include some very clear results of breaking aspects of the agreement.

    They have also openly stated that neutral zones will be created based on the range of the weapons they have been provided with where buffer zones in which no military equipment can be located, domestic or foreign... I am sure they will have worked out all the details to prevent the west taking advantage... but kiev does not want to surrender so Russia will keep pushing them back and keep killing their men.

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    Post  Arrow Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:02 am

    We call for turning the tragic page of history and gradually restoring relations with Ukraine and Europe - Putin. wrote:

    Putin still hopes for good relations with the West and signing another junk agreement like Minsk and Istanbul. Where the West will deceive him once again. Laughing Laughing

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    Post  Scorpius Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:07 am

    Arrow wrote:https://t.me/divgen/49775

    Does Russia only want those regions that it has officially introduced into the Russian Federation? If Ukraine signs a worthless piece of paper stating that it will not join NATO, that will be enough for it. Shocked
    Without cutting off Ukraine from the sea, the seizure of Kharkov, Odessa, etc. is a strategic loss for Russia.

    This is a condition for starting negotiations, not an end position.

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    Post  Arrow Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:10 am

    This is a condition for starting negotiations, not an end position. wrote:

    Right. Interestingly, during the negotiations in Istanbul, Russia did not want these districts. The controversial issue was Donbas.
    It is known that the West will not participate in these negotiations and talks. So, in time, Russia may order even more.
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:36 am

    A bit more on it. This is a long speak by the look of it with much more to come. This is all I'll post until we have it all.


    Putin stating Russian requirements for peace negotiations: Ukrainian forces have to leave all of Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson, Zaporozhye regions; Kiev has to give guarantees that it will not attempt to join NATO

    New territories are forever with the Russian Federation, this issue cannot even be discussed, Putin .

    Putin says that “Today we are making another real peace proposal”. “It is not a question of freezing the conflict, but of bringing it to a definitive end”. “If the West and Kiev refuse, the bloodshed will be their responsibility.” Putin says that Russia is ready to give guarantees of safe passage for Ukrainian forces leaving the Donbass if they agree to the conditions on peace negotiations that Russia is proposing.

    A full return to the security proposals of 2021-2022 is no longer possible, but the basic principles remain unchanged, Putin. “The RF is still ready to conduct a dialogue with all countries, but this should not be an imitation of the peace process, but a detailed conversation”

    The world has come close to the point of no return - Putin on calls from the West to inflict a strategic defeat on Russia


    Other statements:

    No country in the world is immune from joining the list of victims of “Western diplomacy” Russia constantly offered constructive security solutions to foreign partners, but all attempts failed to find an answer

    The West decided that they had won the Cold War and could determine the world order, but they answered Moscow’s questions with excuses -Ostashko reports

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    Post  mr_hd Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:52 am

    What arrogance from Putin... nevertheless I am sure Ukraine does not care what is his opinion or to be more precise they care to learn his concerns and do EXACTLY opposite. They will not stop, it does not matter if it takes 10-20-30 or more years... Russia is now in permanent war ladies and gentlemen.
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    Post  ALAMO Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:07 pm

    Arrow wrote:

    Right. Interestingly, during the negotiations in Istanbul, Russia did not want these districts. The controversial issue was Donbas.


    ... and back in 2015, Russia did not required Donbas either. The core of Minsk Agreements was retaining the Ukrainian integrity minus Crimea, with Donbas region returning to Kyiv authority as a result of amnesty, elections and retaining the status of the Russian language.
    What is even more interesting, the Crimea case is arguable even in the west. It was no other than the Polish president who openly claimed that "Crimea is a different and complicated story".
    The longer this shit will continue, the further west Russia will go.
    And at the end of the tunnel, there will be only one looser other than 404 itself - Europe as a whole.

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