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    Post  starman Sun Oct 06, 2024 10:05 am

    ahmedfire wrote:The izraeli targeting the area between Syria ,Palestine and Jordan could be an initial operation to secure the area so that the air force can work there to target Iran .

    I don't think the Jordanians or Saudis would even resist. They wimped out decades ago; look at Osirak '81.


    Russia should provide Iran with more advanced AD & electronic warfare and intelligence .

    Exactly but it's tough for Iran to pay for all it needs.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Oct 06, 2024 1:23 pm

    comments under youtube video about Russian Ambassador leaving the US:

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    "There is a reason they are denying soldiers leave to go help their families recover from the hurricane, many are on call to deploy within 24 hours. We have an entire strike group and thousands of troops already there, we are poised for a kinetic war to kick off any minute with reinforcements on deck."


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    "Yesterday, Oct 4th I tracked on radar, 5 AF Boeing KC-46A Pegasus leaving Wrightstown in New Jersey in the early morning. They flew together in single file till late night. They arrived and disappeared off radar in Iraq closest to the border of Iran. It could be troops, cargo or fuel knowing that kind of plane. My gut says it's troops."

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    Post  Kiko Sun Oct 06, 2024 1:36 pm

    US Awash in Iranian Oil, by Sergey Savchuk for RiaNovosti. 10.06.2024.

    Israel's ground invasion of southern Lebanon and the massive missile attack by Iran that preceded it have sharply shifted the focus of world politics to the Middle East. This is understandable: the outcome of the Ukrainian conflict, no matter what Kiev fantasizes about, is not capable of having a significant impact on the geostrategic situation in a global sense. But the rapidly heating up and increasingly bloody conflict in the south poses a whole range of difficulties for global players.

    Leading Western publications are writing in unison about the feverish work of the American diplomatic corps in the region. The chicks of Anthony Blinken's nest are simultaneously negotiating with Tel Aviv regarding its plans to strike Iranian oil fields, while simultaneously probing the position of neighboring states. Reuters, citing its own sources, writes that unnamed countries in the region (and according to geographic logic, these are Syria , Jordan , and Iraq ) responded with a categorical refusal to the request to open their airspace for the flight of Israeli missiles. Naturally, such a statement could be disinformation to deceive the Iranian military command. But here it would be useful to recall that these same countries did not particularly interfere with the flight of Iranian missiles, except that Jordan half-heartedly pretended to intercept, shooting down an insignificant number of them.

    The Financial Times completes the picture. It writes that the European Union also sent its emissaries to Israel with a persistent request not to carry out retaliatory strikes on Iranian oil storage facilities. The obvious displeasure of the European diplomats is noted, since Tel Aviv did not give them any guarantees. According to one of the envoys, Brussels is extremely disappointed with such a response and how insignificant the EU's influence on Middle Eastern processes is.

    Diplomats get paid for being able to bury the true meaning under a thick layer of tricky verbal chaff. After all, Washington and Brussels don't give a damn about the number of victims in the Gaza Strip and Lebanon, they are interested in only one thing - Persian oil as a geostrategic factor of long-term influence.

    By the way, the remotely clashing Israel and Iran show in the best possible way that Washington's influence on powerful regional centers is quite indirect. And even in the case of critical dependence, as in the case of the Jewish state, local "hawks" conduct a fairly independent and aggressive policy without constantly glancing over the ocean.

    It is not known how successful the raids of American conciliatory diplomacy were. However, a list of potential targets on Iranian territory where a retaliatory strike could be directed is known. These include the oil refinery near Tehran , the Abadan oil refinery, the Bandar Abbas oil refinery and oil loading terminal, the Persian Gulf Star oil refinery next to it on the coast with a capacity of almost half a million barrels per day, the huge Kharg Island marine terminal (with storage and transshipment capacity of up to 28 million "barrels"), and the Bushehr nuclear power plant under construction . The fact that the latter facility is an unfinished peaceful station, a priori incapable of being involved in the process of Tehran's nuclear armament, does not particularly worry anyone.

    And here we gradually approach the main thing, namely: why are American geopolitical composers so carefully touching the Middle Eastern strings, and Joe Biden even blurted out that Israel’s actions are taking him out of his comfort zone.

    If Israel "takes out" key Persian refineries and oil storage facilities, this will instantly raise world oil prices. OPEC+ has already stated that it has reserves to replace Iranian exports, but if Tehran in response begins to destroy oil production in neighboring countries in the region, this will lead to a regional and possibly global crisis. At the moment, OPEC+ has about six million barrels of reserves per day, and Saudi Arabia (plus three million) and the UAE (plus 1.4 million "barrels" per day) have already announced their readiness to sharply increase production.

    At first glance, it is enough, because Iran exports about 1.7 million barrels of crude oil per day plus 240 thousand "barrels" of fuel oil. The catch is that the key buyer of Iranian oil and products is China , almost half of all exports go there, and Beijing will clearly not be happy about such a kick in the gut to its energy balance. And relations between the US and China are far from ideal anyway.

    The US, as one of the largest oil exporters, is generally satisfied with the shutdown of the Iranian oil flow. According to Goldman Sachs , even an initial Israeli strike will cause oil prices to rise by an average of $20 per barrel, and if the conflict spreads to the entire Strait of Hormuz, the limit will not be even $150 per "barrel". But the Americans are not the only sellers on the market. Record quotes will bring fabulous profits to the same Saudis, who are already moving further and further away from the American orbit of influence. Riyadh is already pursuing an extremely independent policy, bargaining on equal terms with yesterday's overlord.

    And of course, the Russian factor is very important here.

    For three years, the entire collective West has been bending over backwards to limit Moscow's income from oil exports. It is endlessly repeated that this will dry up the state budget and force Russia to curtail military operations in Ukraine . An Israeli strike on Iran's oil fields, be it Ghajaran, Marun, Avaz Banjistan, Agha Jari, Raj-e-Safid, Pars or Bibi Hakim, will be like opening the dam doors, through which an avalanche of money will pour into the Russian budget. Washington understands this, Kiev and Brussels understand it.

    That is why the US is forced to balance between the greed of its own oilmen, the interests of its strategic ally Israel, the need to support Ukraine and contain Moscow, not to give the Arab countries too much freedom, and not to prematurely enter into a clinch with China. Geopolitics is a chemist's scale, only it has not two, but a hundred cups at once.

    https://ria.ru/20241006/neft-1976544126.html

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    Post  nomadski Sun Oct 06, 2024 2:37 pm

    JohninMK wrote:comments under youtube video about Russian Ambassador leaving the US:

    @TimberWolf907
    "There is a reason they are denying soldiers leave to go help their families recover from the hurricane, many are on call to deploy within 24 hours. We have an entire strike group and thousands of troops already there, we are poised for a kinetic war to kick off any minute with reinforcements on deck."


    @zombiedearth
    "Yesterday, Oct 4th I tracked on radar, 5 AF Boeing KC-46A Pegasus leaving Wrightstown in New Jersey in the early morning. They flew together in single file till late night. They arrived and disappeared off radar in Iraq closest to the border of Iran. It could be troops, cargo or fuel knowing that kind of plane. My gut says it's troops."

    Four planes , not enough troops for reinforcements . More likely evacuations . If true means that attack more likely , US will openly participate . Long range attack by cruise missiles , Israel taking the credit . Carriers left the Persian Gulf ? I think SEAD first , few weeks . Then bombers come in with bunker buster ! Must try . Israeli fighters probably withdrawn to Cyprus ...for now .
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:15 pm


    Can I get a rundown of what's been happening in the region these last couple of months? (Israel, Lebanon, Iran...)

    I've been out of the loop





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    Post  flamming_python Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:04 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Can I get a rundown of what's been happening in the region these last couple of months? (Israel, Lebanon, Iran...)

    I've been out of the loop

    A lot of flexing, currently it's match-point Iran

    Next serve could be the big one though

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:26 am

    🇮🇷| READ: Iranian security & military expert Khoshcheshm says:

    When Israel carried out the pager terrorist attack, did it achieve its strategic goal of bringing back displaced settlers from the northern settlements? Absolutely not. In fact, attacks have only intensified since then. Hezbollah has not only increased its military activity but also revealed its ballistic missile capabilities, specifically targeting the Mossad HQ. Israel’s objectives remain unmet, and Hezbollah's counterattacks have only escalated the conflict.

    Of course Israel has had its tactical victory, being the assassination of Sayyed Hassan, Rizvan commanders, the pager attack, which aren’t small things to disregard. But these are tactical achievements which are meant to bring you closer to your strategical victory, being the return of the displaced settlers, pushing back Hezbollah from the border, stopping rocket attacks towards the Galilee settlements. Not only did these attacks not stop, they increased their attacks, they even targeted Haifa & Tel Aviv, so israel didn’t achieve their strategical goal.

    When Israel launched the pager attack, they boasted about crippling Hezbollah. However, even if every individual affected had been lost (which wasn’t the case), Hezbollah's strength would remain largely intact. They have 20-30 times that number in trained men and an abundance of experienced commanders. The leaders currently on the ground have over 30 years of experience under Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah. Hezbollah has nurtured an entire generation of seasoned commanders, fully prepared to step up and fill any role when needed.

    If bombing civilians with warplanes brings victory, then the US would’ve won in Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia would’ve won in Yemen etc.

    Israel wanted to carry out its tactical attacks to tell the world “look, it’s me who’s in power.” If the attack’s achievement is worth 5 points, they make it look like 10 points.

    In the coming weeks, Hezbollah is likely to take control of ground battles, dealing significant damage to Israel. Well before the martyrdom of Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, Hezbollah had already committed to a strategic shift: Not only defending its borders, but also launching counteroffensive operations and advancing deep into occupied territory, possibly even as far as Tel Aviv, depending on how the battles evolves. These aren’t just empty slogans; Hezbollah has developed comprehensive strategic and tactical plans to execute this vision effectively.

    I have only transcribed a part of the interview, you can watch the entire program in Telewebion’s archives via this link (https://telewebion.com/live/ofogh?e=0xf4bf581)

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:56 am

    🇮🇷 🇮🇱 New published footage of Iran missile strike on Israel shows Iranian missiles pass over the heads of female soldiers of the Israeli army

    https://t.me/ResistanceTrench2/12527

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    Post  nomadski Mon Oct 07, 2024 7:05 am


    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/did-iran-conduct-underground-nuclear-test-on-saturday-night-measured-earthquake-in-region-suggests/ar-AA1rMSMT#:~:text=In%20such%20a%20situation,%20it%20is

    Now Iran can escalate , beyond Armageddon !

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    Post  billybatts91 Mon Oct 07, 2024 7:24 am

    Israel killed Esmail Qaani?
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    Post  ahmedfire Mon Oct 07, 2024 9:11 am


    I don't think the Jordanians or Saudis would even resist. They wimped out decades ago; look at Osirak '81.

    They prefer not to allow the izraelis just to avoid Iranian escalation against them .

    Exactly but it's tough for Iran to pay for all it needs.

    Well it shouldn't be all about money now , Iran is an important ally to Russia , payment can comes later .
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    Post  Kiko Mon Oct 07, 2024 11:46 am

    How Israel is turning its own disaster into a victory for Russia too, by Gevorg Mirzayan for VZGLYAD. 10.07.2024.

    Exactly one year ago, an event occurred that dramatically accelerated the course of events in the Middle East and affected the entire world – a bloody attack by Arab groups on Israel. At that time, the consequences of this terrorist attack looked like a catastrophe for the Jewish state. How and why did the situation actually turn upside down in a year, and what significance does what is happening have for our country?

    October 7 marks exactly one year since the bloodiest terrorist attack in Israel's modern history. On that day, Hamas and its allies managed to disable or deceive Israeli surveillance equipment, after which they broke through the fence surrounding the Gaza Strip into Israeli territory. As a result, they not only killed almost 1,200 Israelis (for comparison: in the Yom Kippur War, Israel's bloodiest war against the armies of Egypt and Syria, between 2,500 and 3,000 citizens died) and kidnapped several hundred, but also seized a significant part of southern Israel for several days.

    The significance and consequences of this terrorist attack go far beyond the Israeli-Hamas standoff. Many experts call it one of the turning points in the history of the Middle East. A spark that could ignite the flames of a major regional war.

    After the invasion, the Israeli army began a large-scale operation against Hamas and the Gaza Strip. Now a new stage has begun – an invasion of Lebanon with the aim of destroying or weakening as much as possible the Hezbollah group (whose middle and high command staff was knocked out by Israeli intelligence with the help of terrorist attacks and bombings). In the foreseeable future, this invasion is capable of developing into a full-fledged war between Iran (which will come to the aid of Hezbollah) on one side and Israel and the United States (which will come to the aid of Israel) on the other.

    The process of clearing the ripples from the October 7 terrorist attacks is not yet complete. But now we can already sum up the results and consequences for key regional and external players: Israel, Iran and its allies, the United States – and, of course, Russia.

    Israel lost but won

    A year ago, Israel was considered the biggest loser, not only because of the unprecedented number of casualties, but also because of the demonstration of weakness.

    The Arab world has long had a fear of Israel, formed by the Jewish state's military victories in the mid-20th century. It was believed that the territory under Israeli control was impossible to occupy. The last attempt to do so was 50 years ago (the Yom Kippur War) and ended in a crushing defeat for the leading armies of the Arab states. However, on October 7, 2023, it became clear that no armies were needed to capture it - just a few thousand Palestinian fighters. The invasion was expected to be the end of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's political career.

    However, over the past year, the Israelis and Netanyahu personally have managed to convert their defeat into what they consider a victory. Tel Aviv has launched an unprecedentedly audacious operation to defend itself against Iran’s “thousand cuts” strategy. The essence of this strategy is to surround Israel with a network of pro-Iranian structures and, through terrorist attacks and instability, to exhaust the Jewish state.

    Ultimately, the October 7 attack allowed Israel to consolidate its society and launch operations in Gaza and Lebanon. Yes, their unprecedented brutality quickly deprived Israelis of the international sympathy that had emerged after the October 7 attacks. Yes, a large portion of Israelis still have a negative view of Prime Minister Netanyahu. However, opinion polls show that he is still the most popular candidate for the country's prime minister. Moreover, his successful operations against Hamas and Hezbollah give him the credibility to carry out other operations.

    Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah won but lost
    The so-called Iranian-led “Axis of Resistance” – which includes Hamas and Hezbollah – is currently listed as a loser, despite the initial success of the October 7 terrorist attack and other attacks on Israel.

    These victories have come at a very high price. Thousands of Hamas fighters have been killed, including the head of the organization's politburo, Ismail Haniyeh. Gaza's infrastructure has been destroyed, with more than half of the residential buildings either damaged or destroyed. With no money to rebuild, much of the strip will remain uninhabitable, weakening the group's position not only in the conflict with Israel, but also in the confrontation with its rivals. In particular, the Fatah group that governs the West Bank.

    Hezbollah is in an even worse situation. Its entire top leadership has been wiped out in the last year. Much of the middle management has been wiped out, thanks to an Israeli intelligence operation that planted explosives in the pagers of Hezbollah activists. The organization is so weakened that it is unlikely to be able to prevent an Israeli invasion of southern Lebanon.


    The problems of Hamas and Hezbollah are also becoming problems for their main sponsor, Iran. But they are not the main problems. The main problem is the fork that Tel Aviv has set for Tehran.


    By conducting large-scale, daring and demonstratively cruel operations against Iranian proxies, the Israelis demonstrate to all other proxies, as well as to the Middle Eastern countries, the weakness of Iran - because it is unable to protect its allies. They are thus destroying the axis of resistance. If Iran chooses to defend itself, that is, strikes Israel - this could lead to a sharp escalation of the conflict. Simply put, to a war between Iran and the United States, which is unnecessary and extremely dangerous for Tehran.

    As a result, choosing between war and the shame that would follow war, the Iranians demonstratively chose readiness for war and launched a massive missile attack on Israel on October 1. Giving Tel Aviv the opportunity to begin the escalation for which it is clearly preparing.

    The Dog with the Strange Tail and the Wise Monkey

    The extent of this escalation will largely depend on the position of the United States, Israel's key ally, without whose help Tel Aviv will not be able to sustain this war. It would seem that the Americans should have abandoned it. The Democrats do not need this war, because it will lead to an increase in Donald Trump's rating. The United States as a state does not need it either, because America is already bogged down in the conflict in Ukraine.

    However, the problem is that the Israeli tail is now actively wagging the American dog. Benjamin Netanyahu has driven America into a situation where the White House has no room to maneuver. In the event of a sharp escalation, he cannot help but support Israel – domestic political life in the United States is structured in such a way that the electorate and sponsors will turn away from a candidate who turns away from Israel. And a military defeat of the Jewish state in the war against Iran (inevitable if the United States does not help with money, weapons and soldiers) will deprive the United States of its only stronghold and ally in the region.

    As for Russia, the actions of Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, the US and Iran have made Moscow one of the main beneficiaries of the entire Israeli multi-move. The wise monkey from the Chinese proverb, past which the enemy's corpse floats.


    First of all, the US is distracted by the Middle East. Even the current level of conflict between Israel and Hamas and Hezbollah requires Washington to constantly supply money and weapons to the Jewish state. And every dollar and bullet that goes to Israel does not go to Ukraine.

    By siding with Israel in the inhumane bombing of Hamas, the US has damaged its relations with the Muslim world to the maximum extent. There can now be no talk of any Arab states participating in the sanctions campaign against Russia.

    Relations with the Arab world have been damaged not only by the United States, but also by Western-controlled international organizations. The refusal of the International Olympic Committee and other structures to impose sanctions against Israel has become the best proof of double standards. It turned out that the Muslims that Israel kills in Gaza are less important to the West than the Ukrainians who die in the fighting.

    Of course, Moscow condemns Israel and the US for their provocative activity. It opposes war in the Middle East. But this condemnation does not mean that Russia should not take advantage of the mistakes of its enemies. Even if for Israel these mistakes look like success and victory.

    https://vz.ru/world/2024/10/7/1291034.html

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    Post  Arrow Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:23 pm

    Do you think Iran conducted a nuclear test?
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    Post  Mir Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:57 pm

    Arrow wrote:Do you think Iran conducted a nuclear test?

    It would be very naive for a country - labeled as part of the "Axis of Evil" - not to acquire some form of nuclear weapons capability as an insurance policy.
    This is in all probability a nuclear "test" to send the right message to those that are planning and plotting action against Iran.

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    Post  starman Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:01 pm

    billybatts91 wrote:Israel killed Esmail Qaani?

    They denied it; they said he was in good health.

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    Post  nomadski Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:04 pm

    ^

    The key to understanding this is the mini - quake in Israel , coinciding with Iranian Semnan " quake . " Two quakes coinciding unlikely event . Position , depth and size of quake together with signature points to nuke . But what about Israel ? Unlikely they set off a nuke so close in time to the Iranian one . Therefore the Israeli mini-quake could well be Snuke under Zionaziland . A kind of insurance policy against Netanyaboo loosing the plot , and pressing the red button ! Call it the Iranian Samsonite option !


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    https://geoscience.blog/how-far-can-you-feel-earthquakes/

    The two events were only connected by timings . A quake of 4.5 , can not be felt over 1000 km away in Israel . At best 40 to 50 km . This post is very serious ! I

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:12 pm

    It would be good to try to publish serious things.
    I don't find the alleged Iranian nuclear test credible. Another sensationalist delirium of the networks, HAARP style.
    Nor do those simplistic analyses like those of https://vz.ru/ contribute much.
    Israel, in a year of massive bombing of Gaza, was unable to defeat Hamas. It can't even stop them from continuing to fire rockets. Even against Tel Avir! as seen today.
    Against Hezbollah, they will not fare any better.
    Every day that passes, the Lebanese Resistance increases the range and power of its rocket and missile attacks.
    Not to mention the casualties in the attempts of a ground invasion by the Zionists.


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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:28 pm

    🔰 Imam Khamenei awarded Fath Medal to IRGC Aerospace Forces Commander following Operation True Promise

    Imam Khamenei, The Commander-in-Chief of Iran’s Armed Forces, has awarded the Fath Medal to Brigadier General Amir Ali Hajizadeh, the commander of the Aerospace Force of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps [IRGC] on October 6, 2024.

    General Hajizadeh was awarded this medal in recognition of his exceptional performance during "Operation True Promise."

    The Fath Medal has been chosen as a symbol of the triumphant operations carried out by the soldiers of Islam and the victors in these operations.

    This medal consists of three palm leaves, the dome of the Grand Mosque of Khorramshahr, as well as the flag of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

    ⏬ https://english.khamenei.ir/news/11153
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    Post  Kiko Mon Oct 07, 2024 4:54 pm

    How Iran Penetrated Israel's Air Defense Shield, by Alexander Gulin, Olga Voloshina for VZGLYAD. 10.07.2024.

    "Israeli air defense is not nearly as reliable as they publicly claim." These are the words used by experts to sum up one of the main military events of the past week – Iran's missile strike on Israeli military targets. What real results did Iran achieve in this attack and with what weapons?

    "Operation True Promise 2 has proven that we can raze any place we want to the ground," a source in the Iranian Armed Forces reportedly said, summing up last week's rocket attack on Israel. In other words, Iran is making it clear that it is pleased with the outcome.

    Let us recall that on October 1, Iran launched a massive missile attack on Israeli territory. The exact number of missiles launched is unknown. Official Israeli authorities speak of 180 launches, the Iranian side reports 400 missiles, and the Jerusalem Post newspaper writes about almost five hundred missiles launched. Iran's targets were two Israeli military air bases, Nevatim and Tel Nof, as well as the headquarters of Israel's national intelligence service, Mossad.

    Tehran claims that the attack, dubbed True Promise 2, hit 80% of its targets. The Israel Defense Forces, though not immediately, acknowledged hitting several air bases in Nevatim and Tel Nof. So what missiles did Iran use to penetrate Israel’s deep air defenses?

    Medium-range ballistic missiles

    Military experts call Iran's missile arsenal the most diverse and extensive in the entire Middle East. According to Reuters, Tehran has thousands of cruise and ballistic missiles capable of reaching Israel in 12-15 minutes. As US Marine Corps General Kenneth McKenzie noted back in 2022, "over the last five to seven years, they [the Iranian authorities – Vzglyad note] have invested heavily in their ballistic missile program. Their missiles have a longer range – significantly longer range – and significantly higher accuracy."

    According to CNN, the medium-range ballistic missiles (MRBMs) used by Iran during the attack included the liquid-fueled Ghadr-1 (Ghadr), which entered service in 2007. The Ghadr system is capable of entering combat mode and launching a missile within 30-40 minutes of receiving the command. The 15.5 m long (according to other sources - 16.6 m) and 1.25 m in diameter munition weighs 17.5 tons, with the warhead accounting for 750 kg. The Ghadr missile has a range of up to 1,600 km (according to some sources - up to 2,000 km).

    A specially developed aerodynamic design provides the Ghadr with high speed, making the missile virtually elusive to Israel's missile defence systems.

    In addition, the Iranian Armed Forces "tested" Israeli targets with Khaybar Shekan missiles, which were first shown in February 2022. "Fortress Destroyer" (this is how "Khyber Shekan" is translated into Russian) is a solid-fuel MRBM with high accuracy (circular error probable - less than 20 m). An important advantage of the missile is its maneuverability in the final leg of the flight. "Khyber Shekan" is able to significantly reduce speed during descent, which reduces the thermal load (there are no signs of melting the warhead and burning blocks). All this makes the munition less vulnerable to air defense systems.

    Khaybar Shekan has a more compact body than its classmates, and therefore a lower weight (6.3 tons). The engine power allows the "Destroyer" to carry a half-ton warhead and cover a distance of 1,450 km. The "filling" of the missile's warhead is a high-explosive fragmentation munition. Western media have repeatedly expressed concerns about the possibility of equipping the "Khyber Shekan" with a compact nuclear charge.

    Israel's missile defence system couldn't withstand "hypersonic"

    During the October attack on Israel, Iran used its new Fattah missiles for the first time. Tehran claims that they successfully hit their targets, destroying Israel's Hetz-2 and Hetz-3 anti-aircraft missile systems.

    Fattah, which means "Conqueror" in Persian, was created by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and unveiled to the public in 2023. Its first launch took place on June 6 of that year. Iran's Air Force and Aerospace Force Commander Amir Ali Hajizadeh claimed that the missile has hypersonic speed and high maneuverability in and outside the atmosphere.

    Fattah is said to be capable of reaching speeds of up to Mach 13 (15,900 km/h) and a range of 1,400 km. The missile is highly maneuverable and has precise guidance due to its engine with a movable nozzle. The thrust vector control and aerodynamic rudders allow the missile to rotate during flight and more accurately aim at the target immediately before impact.


    Iranian media claim that Fattah is capable of overcoming all missile defense systems, and that there is no system in the world that can reliably intercept the Iranian development. It is difficult to assess how well-founded this statement is.

    But it is already clear that Israel's air defence and missile defence systems - in particular, the Hetz and Iron Dome anti-aircraft missile systems - were not prepared for such an attack. As military expert Yuri Lyamin noted, Israel's missile defense was overloaded under the attack of dozens of Iranian missiles and did not have time to respond to two massive missile salvos from Iran (the missiles needed only about 12 minutes to reach their intended targets).

    The Aftermath of Operation True Promise 2

    Iran and Israel have provided completely opposite information about the results of Operation True Promise 2. Iranian state media wrote that 20 F-35 Adir fighters were damaged, two gas platforms in the Mediterranean Sea were damaged, Israeli Arrow-2 and Arrow-3 missile defense systems were destroyed, several warheads reached the Gaza Strip and many tanks were hit. It was also reported that several missiles hit the Tel Nof airbase, located 27 km from Tel Aviv.

    In contrast, the IDF (Israel Defense Forces) claims that the several strikes recorded on the Nevatim and Tel Nof airbases did not cause significant damage. Thus, Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Galant stated: "Not a single squadron was hit, not a single aircraft was damaged, there is no faulty runway and there are no disruptions in our operations." According to the Israeli side, most of the rockets were successfully intercepted, only two civilians were injured and one Palestinian worker was killed - he was crushed by debris from the downed rocket.

    So where is the truth? Satellite images that have appeared in the media confirm that at least two runways at the Nevatim airbase have been damaged, a building has been destroyed, the roof of an aircraft hangar has been breached, and craters from explosions are visible.

    The released video footage shows Israeli equipment filling in craters at the airbase. Journalists also captured on video a crater nearly nine meters deep and 15 meters wide about half a kilometer from the Mossad headquarters.

    Doctor of Military Sciences Konstantin Sivkov believes that the Iranian attack on the southern targets, the most distant from Iran, which required overcoming the entire Israeli air defense system, was purely demonstrative in nature. The expert stated : "This strike was demonstrative, it was intended to show that the Israeli air defense and missile defense system is not capable of neutralizing Iranian missiles."

    Apparently, Iran did not fully achieve the strike's objectives, but Israel's air defense did not cope with the Iranian missiles with the required degree of effectiveness. This means that the very fact of a massive strike on Israeli territory caused serious reputational damage to Israel's air defense systems. Retired US Army Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis also says this. He notes that "Israeli air defense is far from being as reliable as they publicly claim." The expert calls on the Israeli government to reduce escalation and warns: "If Israel enters into a missile war with Iran, it will suffer serious damage. This war must not happen."

    https://vz.ru/world/2024/10/7/1291118.html

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    Post  nomadski Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:56 am



    Looks like probing attack , to trick AD to reveal . One hour ago ?

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Tue Oct 08, 2024 10:32 am

    🇮🇱 🇮🇷 What are Israel's capabilities to strike Iran without entering or approaching Iranian airspace?

    The Israeli enemy's air force has somewhat limited options to attack Iran without entering Iranian airspace, in order to avoid the risks of Iranian air defenses.

    The first option: the Delilah cruise missile, which is a long-range cruise missile that can be launched from the ground and air, with a range of up to 250 km.

    The second option: the Lora ballistic missile, which is a medium-range ballistic missile launched from the air, with an effective range of between 600 km and 700 km.

    The third option: the Sparrow ballistic missile, which is a long-range ballistic missile launched from the air, with a range of up to 1,500 km.

    In case of response, Israel will rely on these missiles which can be used without entering Iran airspace, as entering Iranian airspace would expose Israeli aircraft to the risk of shooting down; This will increase the costs of the operation, but long-range launching also has disadvantages, as it will limit the type of targets that can be bombed. All the missiles mentioned do not have the ability to target fortified sites deep in mountains or underground, but can only target places visible above the ground.


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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Tue Oct 08, 2024 11:42 am

    🇮🇷🇮🇱New satellite images of Israeli air bases show the aftermath of Iranian missile strikes.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Tue Oct 08, 2024 3:08 pm

    🇮🇷/🇮🇱 The final count: At least 40 Iranian ballistic missiles are confirmed to have directly hit Nevatim airbase in the Negev

    https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/10892

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    Post  nomadski Tue Oct 08, 2024 11:54 pm


    Iran's inconsistent approach to Israeli attack continue ? Iran denies any attack in Isfahan , despite evidence , and deny death of any Iranian in Syria ! Mixed messages sure to encourage bad behaviour by Israel !

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