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Among our targets were israel’s 3 main airbases, Mossad’s terror HQ, Radar sites, and gathering sites of armoured vehicles around the Gaza Strip, responsible for the genocide in Gaza.
Only military sites were targeted. If Israel is not contained by US & Europe, and takes action against our sovereignty & territorial integrity, tonight's operation will be repeated in much greater size.
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Airbornewolf wrote:small summary of tonight:
Something else.
The ?air-base looks like it took a few hits. I hope the f35s were at home. Can someone please explain what those missiles are that appear to be spinning during descent. Have they been intercepted but not destroyed or are those the warheads that can manoeuvre mid flight? Their trajectory looks weird. It’s clear they still explode upon impact. Thanks.
Ps Johnin will be beside himself with the giddyness
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crod wrote:Airbornewolf wrote:small summary of tonight:
The ?air-base looks like it took a few hits. I hope the f35s were at home. Can someone please explain what those missiles are that appear to be spinning during decent. Have they been intercepted but not destroyed or are those the warheads that can manoeuvre mid flight? Their trajectory looks weird. It’s clear they still explode upon impact. Thanks.
Iranians claimed some of their BMs have maneuvering warheads. Well, they carry 750-1000kg warhead. Kaboom and F35 is still around. I mean everywhere.
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I expect a lot of aircraft to be out of commission doe to "maintenance problems".
If not, then whoever organized this needs to be dealt with.
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Some are saying that they seen hypersonics and that Iran has them. As far as I know , Russia is the only state that is verified to have hypersonics. Part of the reason why Russia has hypers is because it has Mig 31's. Which Iran does not have. The speed of the missile carrier is what makes it possible
Technically Russia has what have been called hypersonic missiles for years... the Iskander is powered all the way to the target and is not a ballistic missile.
In the ground launched version the flight speed is mach 6 to mach 7 which makes it hypersonic (faster than mach 5).
The air launched version of Iskander which gets called Kinzhal is launched in motion and at altitude meaning it can climb higher and fly faster... mach 9 or so...
These two missiles are borderline called hypersonic because they are not ballistic missiles... the first ICBM, the R-7 is hypersonic too but ICBMs and IRBMs are not called hypersonic because they are ballistic.
The real hypersonic missiles are weapons like Zircon that are powered all the way and fly more like bombers than released bombs or fired artillery shells.
Of course the target wont care.
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Judging from comments being released this morning, they’re going to retaliate in a major way, so I guess oilfields and nuclear power plants are on the menu as they had previously warned Iran.
What Iran does after that we shall have to wait and see.
Is this what Netanyahu wanted all along….the big fight with the US dragged in?
Time will tell……
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Collected scenes .
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crod wrote:As we eagerly await daylight pics of what was hit….
Judging from comments being released this morning, they’re going to retaliate in a major way, so I guess oilfields and nuclear power plants are on the menu as they had previously warned Iran.
What Iran does after that we shall have to wait and see.
Is this what Netanyahu wanted all along….the big fight with the US dragged in?
Time will tell……
Yes it is full scale and could turn nuclear . What should worry the Anglo- Zionazis , is that Iran knew fully well , what would follow . This is what they should focus on now .
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Edit :
One can't figured that shit out ...
They are even better than ukrs, I must admit
Edit 2 : and an official Iranian report about 200 missiles being used.
Well, this time those numbers do add up ...
The scale of interception seems irrelevant - we can count an incidental cases ...
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Edit 2 : and an official Iranian report about 200 missiles being used. Well, this time those numbers do add up ... The scale of interception seems irrelevant - we can count an incidental cases . wrote:
ran could probably fire over 1,000 ballistic missiles at Iran if need be. That's a huge blow, not many countries in the world are capable of doing that.
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The scale of interception seems irrelevant - we can count an incidental cases ... wrote:
However, Russian AD is doing better, although on the other hand it has not responded to missile attacks on such a large scale, rather to maneuvering missiles and drones.
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I guess it’ll be damn near impossible to ever know what made it through and what didn’t numbers wise let alone what % were decoy heads and whatnot. But from the footage in one part of israel at least, a fair few made it through even some crazy spinning type ones.
Also, did they really manage to hit mossad hq in the city centre?
But claims of 80% interception seems mad talk to me given some of these clips.
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This makes a maximal salvo of 312 missiles and needs about 20 mins for reloading using assisting reload units.
If we would add strategic aviation to the quotation, we will end up with 50+ Tu-95 and 17 Tu-160. Number of missiles for Tu-160 is 12 pcs each, but the issue is with the Tu-95. Those are a moc of old MS6 with 6 missiles, MS16 with 16 missiles, and newly modified pieces that carry 14 missiles each.
That makes 204 for Tu-160 and lets say around 700 for Tu-95 - if we consider a full scale salvo.
Adding naval element, we can end up with a 2000 pcs salvo.
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Arrow wrote:
The eventual IRBM will carry nuclear weapons. But Russia has huge numbers of Iskanders, now after increasing range to over 1000km and so on from subsonic to hypersonic cruise missiles.
Avangard fitted IRBM's will most likely be an option for Europe.
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It should be added that Israel is still defended by systems from Jordan and the US probably also tried to intercept missiles from Iran.
The US tried but they were too late on the scene. Jordan's claims are pathetic. They have nothing that can stop a ballistic missile attack.
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Tolstoy wrote:Which ones?Hole wrote:Wait for the new russian IRBM´s
They already have the RS-26 Rubezh in small numbers that can be considered as an IRBM. Basically a shortened version of the Yars.
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Eugenio Argentina wrote:"99% interception"
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You don't understand - it was an unexpected meteor shower
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Eugenio Argentina wrote:— Iran's Minister of Defense: 'None of our most advanced missile capabilities were used in Operation True Promise-2'
@Middle_East_Spectator
It seems that they've mostly used older Scud type missiles with a lighter warhead to extend the range. All past heir expiry date anyway
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Arrow wrote:The question is whether the West would be able to try to destroy Iran's economy through an air campaign. It is known that the IAF would be fully supported by the entire US air force and perhaps what is possible from the rest of NATO. On the one hand, Iran has a very weak air force, strong AD, to what extent would they be able to oppose NATO and Israeli air forces? However, this is not Russia with its powerful VKS and huge AD. The air campaign would be supported by cruise missile fire, although it is doubtful that in the case of Iran, these missiles would be enough for the West for long. Iran is a very vast territory, to what extent could the West destroy Iranian AD to carry out direct missions with aircraft or strategic bombers.
It is perfectly clear that Israel and it's western backers are completely defenseless against ancient ballistic missiles. No amount of help will save them now. I think they got the message.
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Backman wrote:Some are saying that they seen hypersonics and that Iran has them. As far as I know , Russia is the only state that is verified to have hypersonics. Part of the reason why Russia has hypers is because it has Mig 31's. Which Iran does not have. The speed of the missile carrier is what makes it possible
Both China and North Korea have them and it now seems like Iran has hypersonic missiles as well.
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Mir wrote:
It is perfectly clear that Israel and it's western backers are completely defenseless against ancient ballistic missiles. No amount of help will save them now. I think they got the message.
This is a clear message not only to Israel.
US and its minions assets in Asia are even less defended.
Comrade Kim owns the number of missiles on the Iranian scale for sure, including some more potent.
Both Korea and Japan are much less densely defended, with even less capable systems than Israel operates.
Korea - or China - can wipe them out in one single blow.
That is why we will get the sole solution that the west can apply - propaganda madness.
Mir wrote:
They already have the RS-26 Rubezh in small numbers that can be considered as an IRBM. Basically a shortened version of the Yars.
The problem with RS-26 is the fact, that it is a heavy and expensive system designed as ICBM. It's shorter minimal range is just a spin-off of the project and variable trajectory. We are talking about it as MRBM only because this is a part of western shitstream narrative of how ebil Russkie are violating the INF treaty. A whole story is based on a fact that some of the tests were carried at relatively low - 2000 km - range.
It will still be an overmatch for the European theatre, as the flight distance from Moscow fo the farthest part of continental Europe is <4kkm.
Russkie need an inexpensive missiles with a range of 2500+ km - which would be Volga project from the 80s.
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