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    Su-57 Stealth Fighter: News #9

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    Post  thegopnik Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:34 pm

    mnztr wrote:
    thegopnik wrote:
    mnztr wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/WarplanePorn/comments/zxabm0/a_new_batch_of_sukhoi_su57_serial_aircraft_video/

    A new batch of SU-57 are delivered on a snowy day and fly off into te falling snow. Quiet amazed they do not have a sheltered area for the pilots to board lol.

    wonder what they are blurring on the aircraft, also not to embarrass you, but the reddit replies and post suggest the video is from 2 years ago.


    Have you seen this video before? Has the plane changed since then? If not what does it matter that the vid is 2 y old. The blurring is so intel analysts cannot track serial numbers of the planes.

    use your words correctly you said it's a new batch; a new batch would be like Su-57s being put into service the end of this year not 2 years ago.
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:07 am

    thegopnik wrote:

    use your words correctly you said it's a new batch; a new batch would be like Su-57s being put into service the end of this year not 2 years ago.
    That was a 'conversation' under the site's rules. Suggest you trim it before Garry sees it and gives you a 'holiday'

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    Post  GarryB Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:39 am

    That was a twofor...

    I don't like banning anyone, no matter how I feel about them personally...

    I think I have been rather fair so far, increased punishments... we will see if they are effective...

    Maybe I can take a holiday and shut down the whole site for a month?

    What would I do with all that free time though... and punishing everyone for the crimes of a few is not any where near fair.
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    Post  Mir Tue Dec 10, 2024 7:23 pm

    Also a new helmet.

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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:09 pm


    We seen the helmet years ago, looks like it finally hit production stage

    Does anyone have source video?



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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:15 pm

    It is real funny that the fanciful 3D renders and Photoshops made back in the day (10 years ago-ish) actually managed to predict all of this stuff.

    These model renders (author unknown) were floating about at the Keypublishing, Secret Projects, MilitaryPhotos and Paralay forums way back then:
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    This Photoshop is derivative and easily 6-7 years old if not more (probably closer to 10yo as well, tbh), but the particular nozzle layout here is EERILY similar to the real thing that was first shown just today:
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    The general idea being "what would Sukhois trademark '2.5D' TVC look like with F-22-like nozzles?" I suppose.

    I myself thought they'd actually stick with the F-35-esque Saturn 30 nozzles, that were already known to have been developed and as I Photoshopped 7 years ago:
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    A Photoshop that led to some rather amusing bickering hereabouts:
    https://www.russiadefence.net/t5572p325-pak-fa-t-50-news-4
    https://www.russiadefence.net/t5572p350-pak-fa-t-50-news-4#212602

    Anyway, she always was a looker but with these things, the sex appeal's through the roof.

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    Post  Arrow Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:56 pm


    Does anyone have source video? wrote:

    That's all for now.

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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:57 pm

    Thanks 👍
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    Post  thegopnik Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:23 am

    SWEET, photonic radars and ramjet k-37m and k-77m missiles next please
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    Post  xeno Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:14 am

    No, no "photonic radars and ramjet k-37m and k-77m missiles"
    Just new engine, new AESA radars, new avionics, new cockpit, new missiles and new AI drone S-71, that is all.
    Be realistic...

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    Post  sepheronx Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:11 am

    We won't see photos radar on jets anytime soon. It will be ground based radar first.
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    Post  Kiko Yesterday at 7:16 pm

    Su-57 received the second stage AL-51F1 engine with a flat nozzle, 12.12.2024.

    The First Channel of Russian television presented a trailer for the film "Lords of the Sky", dedicated to the 85th anniversary of the Pavel Sukhoi Experimental Design Bureau. The film itself will be aired on December 15 at 17:00, it is notable for the fact that for the first time the fifth-generation fighter Su-57 equipped with the second-stage engine "article 30" or AL-51F1 with a flat nozzle and deflectable thrust vector will be demonstrated.

    The trailer for the film shows several shots of the T-50-2 prototype with the long-awaited power plant, as well as the Su-57M with two AL-51F1 engines. This power plant is the final link that makes the Su-57 fighter an aircraft that fully meets the requirements imposed in Russia on fifth-generation aircraft.

    These requirements include multifunctionality, low visibility, super maneuverability, intelligence and all-aspect pilot awareness of the external situation, a large combat load with high-precision long-range missiles, and supersonic cruise flight without afterburners. The second-stage engine ensures the fulfillment of the last criterion. Therefore, the public demonstration of the Su-57 with AL-51F1 engines on Channel One indicates that the power plant is ready, has passed tests, and can be installed as a standard one.

    In December 2023, high-ranking sources close to the Russian Aerospace Forces told TASS about plans to equip all Su-57s produced by the Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aircraft Plant with AL-51F1 engines starting in 2024. However, the fighters that UAC had already transferred to the troops in the past year were equipped with the first-stage engines – AL-41F1 (“product 117”).

    The development of the second stage engine ("product 30") for the Su-57 is being carried out at the Arkhip Lyulka Design Bureau. The first launch of the test sample took place on November 11, 2016. Flight tests began on the prototype aircraft with the tail number "052" (T-50-2) in December 2017. Instead of the standard left engine, the first prototype of "product 30" was installed on the machine, which then still had a round nozzle.

    The new engine was first presented under the designation AL-51F1 in July 2023 at a scientific and technical conference on the prospects for the development of engine building at the Samara Technical University. In the presentation of "UEC-Kuznetsov" on one of the slides, the second stage engine for the Su-57 was designated as AL-51-F1.

    The first stage AL-41F1 engine has a nominal thrust of 8800 kgf, 14500 kgf in afterburner and 15000 in emergency mode. According to experts and analysts in the aviation industry, the AL-51F1 engine will develop a nominal thrust of at least 11000 kgf, in afterburner - 17000 kgf. Considering the takeoff weight of the Su-57 over 35 tons, the thrust-to-weight ratio of the aircraft will be more than one - 1.15-1.2 at normal takeoff weight. Now this parameter is 1.09 at normal takeoff weight and 0.97 at takeoff weight with full load.

    The documentary film "Lords of the Sky" will be shown on Channel One on December 15 at 5 p.m. for Moscow, St. Petersburg and the European part of Russia. Residents of the Urals, Siberia, the Far East, Kamchatka and Chukotka should check the time of the broadcast in accordance with the broadcasting grid of Channel One in each region.

    https://aviation21.ru/su-57-poluchil-dvigatel-vtorogo-etapa-al-51f1/

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