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    Post  JohninMK Mon Oct 16, 2023 1:41 pm

    OK time for a smile. Some fun comments follow the post
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    Post  Belisarius Mon Oct 16, 2023 5:35 pm


    Looks like yet another Ugledar style fiasco.

    This war will only end when Ukrying crumbles by its own. Not thanks to magical counteroffensives.

    There is a report form a soldier (RF) from the Avdeevka Battle:
    (Make out of it what ever you want)
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    "I’m reading the news now and I don’t understand where the ideas come from that the offensive turned out to be a “failure”?-

    The forces of the 114th brigade took control of the waste heap in the KHZ area, which gives a huge plus for reconnaissance and more.

    No one will put artillery on it, as armchair experts think, because this is a lost cause that will entail heavy losses.

    How could we lose so many tanks?
    Almost all the structures of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the directions of Donetsk are underground + this is a plain that is perfectly covered by our tanks from a distance; the fortifications are stormed only by infantry with the support of artillery, so that ours can come much closer to the position.

    This is why difficulties arise, because it is absolutely not profitable for us to break through all these fortifications, and it sounds like science fiction.

    The success of the offensive is shown from the village's perspective. Krasnohorivka towards Berdychi, where there are no fortified structures 12 meters underground, where every centimeter is filled with concrete, and on top there is a small hill of earth, like in the Donetsk direction.

    Every 100 meters covered in the Experienced/Vodyany direction is a huge victory.
    And most importantly - the waste heap.

    Now our guys need to gain a foothold in positions, and reconnaissance needs to identify the remaining ammunition depots and track the delivery of new units of equipment/ammunition/provisions and destroy them.

    Monitor every rotation and exit of the enemy from positions and prevent any withdrawal of Ukrainian Armed Forces personnel.

    The goals are clear, the goals are adequate, it’s only a matter of time.
    And you should forget about the cauldron for the near future if you don’t want to see a bloody meat grinder of our guys."
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    (For me it sounds that bloody hill was taken (again) - but it is not sure to me if it will be held)
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    Post  dionis Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:03 pm

    I don't think there has been any geolocations of Russian forces on the big hill / pile / whatever Northeast of the coke plant, unfortunately.

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    Post  lyle6 Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:01 pm

    Armchair Warlord's take on Avdiivka:
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    * Just as a note, the distance between both SBF 1 and SBF 2 and the MSR is about four kilometers - a long but quite reasonable distance to engage for tank guns and antitank missiles, particularly against soft targets that can be destroyed with HE shells.

    The Russians have the hohols in a chokehold but you low IQ morons are working yourselves into a lather because the hohols can land a few good elbows in. Whatever keeps you asleep at night I guess. Razz

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    Post  Arrow Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:58 am

    Fighterbomber

    "o not good.
    At night, the crests attacked our airfield where the Army Aviation was based with ATACMS missiles.
    One of the most serious blows of all time in the Northern Military District. If not the most serious.
    There are losses in both people and technology.
    It’s pointless to write about the fact that “we need to draw conclusions so that this doesn’t happen again.” This will happen again as long as the war continues. We must be prepared for this."

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Oct 17, 2023 1:56 am

    Arrow wrote:Fighterbomber
    "o not good.
    At night, the crests attacked our airfield where the Army Aviation was based with ATACMS missiles.
    One of the most serious blows of all time in the Northern Military District. If not the most serious.
    There are losses in both people and technology.
    It’s pointless to write about the fact that “we need to draw conclusions so that this doesn’t happen again.” This will happen again as long as the war continues. We must be prepared for this."

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    Several Russian sources are reporting that the Russian air base in Berdyansk was hit with a barrage of ATACMS missiles & that there were several hits, damage seems substantial but extent is currently unknown
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    Post  Regular Tue Oct 17, 2023 2:14 am

    dionis wrote:I don't think there has been any geolocations of Russian forces on the big hill / pile / whatever Northeast of the coke plant, unfortunately.

    there was geoloc for dead soldier on the hill.
    There is recent video of Russian walking on the highway reporting that the hill and chimneys have spotters.

    About the strike on AFB.

    More to come in the future, whole purpose of ATACMS was this ability. Not sure if jets will play any role, but this will be common occurrence unless… unless Russians will start funny operations that will throttle their rotary aviation use by going FARP.
    But until then, there will be hits.
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Oct 17, 2023 2:19 am

    This must have been a big bang



    Plus this right in the middle hit.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:40 am

    JohninMK wrote:
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    Several Russian sources are reporting that the Russian air base in Berdyansk was hit with a barrage of ATACMS missiles & that there were several hits, damage seems substantial but extent is currently unknown
    8:13 AM · Oct 17, 2023

    Airfield north of Berdansk is in a miserable shape. Lane was partially dismantled/scrapped and forested a long time ago.
    If Russkie didn't rebuild it extensively, I hardly believe it was operational.
    Especially if we consider a fact, that there is a much better in shape airfield in Mariopol just next by, and the same applies to Melitopol. Ukrs kept Il-76's there.
    A whole story sounds fishy if you ask me.

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    Post  Regular Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:50 am

    Both HelicopterPilot and Fighterbomber groups are reporting hits on personel. It was used.
    Strikes on AFBs are not new anyway, they will happen for both sides.
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    Post  ALAMO Tue Oct 17, 2023 4:17 am

    It is still an airfield, so sure it could have found some use. Helis could operate from there for sure. So yes, if attacked, it might bring some damage - especially as not a primary airfieldits coverage was obviously weaker.

    Edit : and just as I was saying that, here it is :

    https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/86966

    Helicopters are the target, with three visible fire/smoke sources. Aircrafts were obviously tanked and armed, as comments in the background called ammo load detonating.

    It looks like a combined strike with HIMARS and GLDSB. Six fired, three intercepted, three hit targets.

    Translating that to details, we have a 50% interception ratio of a brand new and unknown threat, on a secondary target with compromised defense.

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    Post  Regular Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:14 am

    So ATACMS or GLSDBs were intercepted?
    Also, hits on Russian controlled Skadovsk. I wonder what was used there

    Introducing these far reaching systems always have initial impact. I am interested how Russia will adapt. UA have advantage in ISR and Russia is target ample environment, but it doesn’t mean Ukraine can’t get same treatment. Hits on UKRs reported too


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    Post  JohninMK Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:43 am

    We have no official indication that ATACMS have been delivered to Ukraine. In the past. like SS, even if they delivered in secret much earlier they announced delivery on first use.

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    Post  Regular Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:46 am

    JohninMK wrote:We have no official indication that ATACMS have been delivered to Ukraine. In the past. like SS, even if they delivered in secret much earlier they announced delivery on first use.

    They have developed habit of giving things to Ukraine and announcing it later

    By the way, check the dates on this

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:47 am

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:52 am

    Regular wrote:
    By the way, check the dates on this

    Yes, its a pensioner Smile

    The RA gets Azov in the end. Good of these idiots to give them a second chance.

    Ideological nationalist Igor Dubik was liquidated in the SMO zone

    A participant in hostilities since the so-called ATO. As part of the national regiment, “Azov" retreated all the way to Azovstal. There, along with the others, he surrendered, was held in a colony in Elenovka, which was shelled by the AFU last summer.

    In December, he entered the lists for the exchange of prisoners, returned home, underwent rehabilitation and returned to the battlefield. This was definitely his last time.

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    More dead, this time they died for money.

    Three foreign mercenaries, who became the target of a Russian drone near Krasny Liman, are returning home, writes the Director for Ukraine.

    UkroSMI reports that the footage includes American David Lee Cote, Estonian Tanel Kriggul and an unknown Latvian who came to Ukraine this summer.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:55 am

    Minor damage

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:59 am

    Regular wrote:So ATACMS or GLSDBs were intercepted?
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    Debris of both found, but the only one I would guess can be interception was a part of ATACSM where subammunition was not separated correctly. Still it is not a 100% proof of anything, such a big chunks of nonfragmented warheads have been found earlier, too.

    Edit : and being give a 300 km ranged missiles, what would you expect them to do?

    All the best they can!

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:05 am

    I don't normally post memes but this was just too good

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    Post  Hole Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:21 am

    I don't normally post memes but this was just too good
    Old one. Was posted before.

    So ATACMS or GLSDBs were intercepted?
    Surprised that the Ukros don´t claim that it were a Dark Eagle missile.

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    Post  Belisarius Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:34 am

    ALAMO wrote:
    It looks like a combined strike with HIMARS and GLDSB. Six fired, three intercepted, three hit targets.

    Translating that to details, we have a 50% interception ratio of a brand new and unknown threat, on a secondary target with compromised defense.


    Considering air defense was reported as firing all night it's likely that far more than six missiles were expended in this attack, the interception ratio is certainly much higher than 50%.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:05 am

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    You have promessed!
    But that's for the Jews!
    BUT I AM A JEW!!!

    Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  mnztr Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:16 am

    "For the first time, the Russian military used the TOS-2 Tosochka heavy flamethrower system to destroy enemy infantry in the North Military District zone."

    Congratulations you are customer #1 you get a FREE cremation.


    that said the blast from the TOS2 seems less then the TOS-1, did they reduce the charge to get more range?

    Looks like the decided to stop using the tank as you are pretty much done if the rockets get hit anyway.
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    Post  ALAMO Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:44 am

    In theory, those are just the same missiles but on wheeled chassis.

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    Post  dionis Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:36 am

    Per CNN, US officials confirmed secret ATACMS delivery to "surprise" Russia.

    No surprises that whole train of S-300Vs was seen moving to Ukraine? Smile

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