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    A change for Europe?


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    Post  GarryB Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:19 am

    19 Apr, 05:26
    China expected to have 1,500 nuke warheads by 2035 — NATO chief

    "And Beijing too would benefit from the increased transparency, predictability and security of arms control agreements," Jens Stoltenberg said

    BRUSSELS, April 18. /TASS/. China is expected to possess some 1,500 nuclear warheads by 2035, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said on Tuesday.

    "In the longer term, we need to re-think and adapt our approach to a more dangerous and competitive world. And this means engaging with China, which is estimated to have 1,500 warheads by 2035," he told an arms control conference in Washington.

    "As a global power, China has global responsibilities. And Beijing too would benefit from the increased transparency, predictability and security of arms control agreements," he said. "NATO is a unique platform where we engage with China and the wider international community for our mutual benefit."

    What do you guys think of this?

    Beijing would benefit from arms control agreements restricting her actions and use of her military?

    Sounds like the head of HATO wants Chinese nukes to be controlled... ignoring that it is US aggression that made them decide they want more nuclear weapons... note these expectations of 1,500 Chinese nukes are western estimates... I have never read China saying they want that many.

    But why is he saying it in America?

    In the longer term we need to change the way we do things in a world with more competitors... he said in Washington...

    So he is not telling the Chinese this, he is telling America...

    I suspect he is trying to say to the US that rather than being Americas tight leashed bitch that does as ordered immediately as ordered that the EU would be more use to the US being more independent and a separate power, that will still be loyal, but not so obviously under the thumb...

    In other words he wants the US to stop strangling Europe so they can get cheap energy and don't have to do what they are told by the US so much and can engage in things in their own interests so their populations don't revolt and overthrow them.

    Promising to be more independent like China in the Ukraine Russia situation, would give them more sway with their opponent so they might be able to actually help.

    Finland and Switzerland think of themselves as neutral and able to give advice to Russia, but obviously their following western sanctions means Russia wont listen.

    Turkey on the other hand, has not followed western sanctions on Russia and while Russia wont follow their demands, they will at least listen to them and decide if what they say makes sense.

    Anything Poland or Germany or France say will be ignored because they are clearly supplying weapons and ammo and money to the enemy.

    Love the way the head of HATO says China has global responsibilities when the west totally ignores such things all the time.

    Playing with grain exports to damage world food security is just part of it... and in interesting snippet of information on that was in this story:

    Zelensky army stunt upset UN chief – WaPo

    Down the bottom of the story is this interesting snippet about US spying on everyone...

    Washington’s apparent snooping on the UN leader fits a long record of clandestine activities by the US and other Western powers, the Post noted. Last week, a BBC report based on another slide from the same trove described the US’ displeasure with efforts undertaken by Guterres to deliver on his promise to Russia to facilitate exports of its food and fertilizers.

    So the US is unhappy at UN Chief for trying to deliver the wests side of the bargain in the Black Sea Initiative, which was supposed to free up the trade in grain and fertilisers via the Black Sea.

    This is clear evidence that the US is directly blocking what they are supposed to be delivering, and on its own should trigger a cancellation of that agreement.

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    Post  ahmedfire Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:41 am

    That number 1500 was mentioned in the 2022 Pentagon's annual report , see how they are only copying the US data ? only followers.

    EU will get some change but not with the current leaders as they are weak ,morons and completely controlled by the US ,they have no option but to be weak as the EU in-house is weak and dependent on the outside economically and for protection .

    Europe made the mistake of trying to reconcile the incompatible, European unity and transatlantic orientation

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