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    Post  Hole Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:22 pm

    Most of these chinese weapons are not even in service in the Chinese Armed Forces.
    They were never used even in low intensity combat.

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    Post  Mir Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:29 pm

    I like the swarm concept but the Javelin knockoff...I don't think so Wink Smile

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:30 pm

    Here is something intersting.

    https://t.me/c/1638135777/11415

    S-60 57mm used for area bombardment.

    Note the high % of non exploding rounds and ricochets.

    Probably due to the long storage and/or wrong fuse settings.

    Post Mir Today at 6:29 pm

    I like the swarm concept but the Javelin knockoff...I don't think so Wink Smile


    Hook me up. Paid attention to both as well, as the others are nothing Russkie doesn't have.

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    Post  VARGR198 Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:00 pm

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    Post  Regular Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:20 pm

    “Hook me up. Paid attention to both as well, as the others are nothing Russkie doesn't have.“

    Neither Russians nor Chinese have most of the weaponry mentioned. Most of these are experimental or just shown in expos. The drones on other hand, Chinese are leaders in the field and I would trust even untested drone from them.

    Precision guided bombs are nice and all, the thing is - China doesn’t have enough even for their own army

    Only reliable thing China can supply - communication equipment, drones and medium range strike systems.

    Would be stupid not to purchase it from them as these are never enough
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    Post  ALAMO Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:41 pm

    And how do you think, what is being delivered in these An's and wagons? dunno

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:12 pm

    Another thing China could conceivably help Russia with is surveillance from space. Russia of course has its own collection of "spy" (both optical, radar and SIGINT) satellites, they invented the entire concept even, but they don't have as many as the US+EU in orbit, so they are lagging behind in revisit frequency.

    In short, obedient little useless proxy Ukraine gets better info than actual independently spacefaring Russia, which is ludicrous.

    China could probably fill the Russians in when there's a gap. Maybe they already are.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:24 pm

    I guess they do.
    As far as I know the Chinese - considering my friends and business partners - the speech that Chinese officials are using for a while is something out of the mind.
    If the Chinese MFA is saying what he is being said for months - that means the case is closed.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:26 pm

    par far wrote:

    Interesting channel this. I have a hard time taking Americans or Brits running around in the Donbass seriously, many of them are insufferable even if they don't technically do anything wrong.

    But the translator lady that this guy has teamed up with did have an interesting story to tell. She supposedly went from die-hard anti-Putin and anti-SMO to do, well, an 180. Yeah, I'm going refer to degrees a lot now after that Baerbock gaffe.

    Anyway, if she's being honest, she basically got her world turned upside down once she actually went to the Donbass and discovered that things did not at all correspond to what her favorite western media and opposition Russian media had been saying all this time.



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    Post  Backman Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:36 pm

    If you think Putin is too passive ,cautious and measured , then wait till you hear Xi Jinping.

    There is already reports of Chinese ammunition finding it's way into Pakistan , which is finding it's way to the Kiev regime. But i don't think this is sanctioned by Xi Jinping. He's just too passive to get a grip of Pakistan. Even though they invest so much in it. Russia didn't save Imram Khan. So nobody did.

    It doesn't help Russia , that China is such a mouse on the international stage. Biggest economy and navy in the world , and acts like the 20th biggest economy in the world

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    Post  Backman Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:38 pm

    Putin should get credit for suspending START. That is a pretty big deal..usually they just wait until the US does it. But not this time

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    Post  franco Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:13 pm

    The Ministry of Defense of Russia commented on the statements that appeared about the alleged blocking of ammunition supplies to volunteers of assault detachments performing combat missions to liberate the city of Artemovsk [Bakhmut]

    https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1628120139194372097/photo/1

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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:24 pm

    Backman wrote:Putin should get credit for suspending START. That is a pretty big deal..usually they just wait until the US does it. But not this time

    Only as long as he doesn't do something retarded like detonating nuclear bomb on Russian territory


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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:28 pm

    franco wrote:The Ministry of Defense of Russia commented on the statements that appeared about the alleged blocking of ammunition supplies to volunteers of assault detachments performing combat missions to liberate the city of Artemovsk [Bakhmut]

    https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1628120139194372097/photo/1

    In the next few days?

    Look like someone upstairs told them to stop f*cking around and play ball



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    Post  ALAMO Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:40 pm

    Just curious ...
    Had anyone seen our 1:144 scale Serbian Napoleon lately?
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    Ooooh! Sorry! Here he is!
    I haven't noticed him, the scale matters, you know. Just needed a bigger scope.
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    Post  billybatts91 Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:43 pm

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    Post  Isos Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:43 pm

    IMO we are weeks or months away from nuclear tests. They have only new warheads in their missiles that have never been tested and the possibility that they were badly designed isn't 0.

    In a almost war with NATO they would feel better if they test them and see if they work correctly.

    Satellite images of troop movments in Novaya Zemlja will quickly appear IMO.

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    Post  mnztr Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:55 pm

    If Wagner really had problems with ammo supply the guys on the frontline would stop posting videos in which they are using a truck-load of artillery shells against small groups of enemy fighters. wrote:

    How many shells does it take to kill a Ukrainian soldier?

    A - 1 but lets send 100 anyway.

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    Post  Hole Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:55 pm

    And how do you think, what is being delivered in these An's and wagons?
    Maybe russian stuff to close some capability gaps in the chinese military, like parts for EW radars.
    Who knows?
    The same with those iranian planes. They will receive Su-35 jets shortly, that means they need a lot of
    ground equipment, simulators and even some weaponry. These planes are propably transporting that stuff
    from Russia to Iran.
    Could be as true as the planes delivering some drone parts from Iran or chinese electronics or so to Russia.

    Some remarks about Prigozhin/Wagner: In the past week the guy was running aroung as if his "contracters"
    were the only ones fighting for the last 12 months. Suddenly he moans for days and days because he gets not
    enough ammo? Does this mean that Wagner isn´t fighting alone? That all the stuff they need isn´t bought by
    employees of the company and delivered to the front by trucks of the company?  Shocked In reality he is bringing some
    light infantry fighters to the battle, for which he receives money from the state, and all the rest is done by the MoD.
    So he should keep his mouth shut or troll Zelensky but not the people that make it possible that his company can
    exist.

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    Post  Backman Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:07 pm

    It looks like Russia is going to make a strategic play to try and talk some sense into the US. I think it might be a little late for this. Should have been done a year ago.

    Hopefully this is a last warning, and Russia will kalibrate the shit out of any and all US or Nato personnel or equipment in Ukraine


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    Post  ALAMO Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:10 pm

    So he should keep his mouth shut or troll Zelensky but not the people that make it possible that his company can
    exist.


    But he is perfectly doing so Laughing
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    Post  Hole Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:17 pm

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    Man-made disasters in the US in the last month, looks as russian agents were busy.  Very Happy
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    Guy on the left carries a Scorpion ammo backpack.

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    Post  Isos Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:18 pm

    Hopefully this is a last warning, and Russia will kalibrate the shit out of any and all US or Nato personnel or equipment in Ukraine

    They are already doing so.

    If you think the training range kalibrated at the start that killed hundreds of nato mercenaries wasn't full of actual active nato soldiers you are a fool.

    All the nato mercenaries killed on the front are just special forces.

    If they discover a base full of nato soldier they will target it as a priority target.

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