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    Post  thegopnik Mon Dec 26, 2022 4:59 am

    Made every article that covers Russia's military.

    https://defenceforumindia.com/threads/russia-naval-capabilities-to-deal-with-future-threats-part-1.83614/

    https://defenceforumindia.com/threads/russia-naval-capabilities-to-deal-with-future-threats-part-2.83615/

    https://defenceforumindia.com/threads/russia-future-air-space-capabilities-part-1.83620/

    https://defenceforumindia.com/threads/russia-future-land-force-future-capabilities.83625/

    https://defenceforumindia.com/threads/russia-future-air-space-capabilities-part-2.83650/

    https://defenceforumindia.com/threads/russia-future-air-space-capabilities-part-3.83665/

    https://defenceforumindia.com/threads/russia-future-strategic-nuclear-weapons-capabilities.83667/

    https://defenceforumindia.com/threads/russia-naval-capabilities-to-deal-with-future-threats-part-3-not-done-will-edit-later.83669/

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    Post  PhSt Mon Dec 26, 2022 5:44 am


    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/26366

    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/26375

    Details are still a bit sketchy about the incident at Engels, if it turns out to be another NATzO attack on Russia's Nuclear facility. A Powerful response against NATzO capitals is needed. If Russia shows another weak response, it will only encourage NATzO to set a nuclear device at the center of Moscow.

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    Post  kvs Mon Dec 26, 2022 5:49 am

    Obviously NATzO did not get the intelligence it wanted with the previous attack and is trying to get it again.

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    Post  caveat emptor Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:03 am

    @sepheronx
    People from Saratov posted these short videos. Explosion is seen in the direction of the base. Remains to be seen what was it. Zastavni on th says that, according to unconfirmed reports, three people died.
    It is 9 am in Saratov, so reliable information should be available soon.
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    Post  caveat emptor Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:15 am

    https://t.me/milinfolive/94814

    ❗Russian Defense Ministry: on Monday, air defense systems shot down a Ukrainian drone at low altitude while approaching the Engels military airfield in the Saratov region.  As a result of the fall of its wreckage, 3 Russian soldiers who were at the airfield were fatally injured.  The aircraft was not damaged.

    @milinfolive

    Unless this is done by Strizh, it is a sabotage.

    Another link:
    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/26378

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    Post  sepheronx Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:23 am

    So they rely on shorad to stop these drones, second time now, attempted attack. But debris in both cases kill soldiers?

    This doesn't add up and I don't bieve it. Most won't and the Russians government needs to be more transparent or they will face hardship later on.

    They will figure this out and the flight path taken. Of course since flights still happening around Russia and these things fly low and slow enough, it should be worrying to the authorities as to why such devices are slipping through, and to a very important base.
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    Post  Serberus Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:31 am

    Second attack on nuclear triad and most likely not the last.
    I am going to call it; response will be exactly the same as last time. MOD issues a statement which they already have, might lob a few Gerans or Cruise Missiles at empty buildings and some power infrastructure, and that will be it.

    Russia has already proven multiple times, any red line they set or have had, just gets pushed farther back every time the Anglo Nazis and their puppets call them out on it, so business as usual today.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:33 am

    On December 26, at 1.35 a.m., a Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicle was shot down at low altitude while approaching the Engels military airfield in the Saratov region. As a result of the fall of the wreckage of the drone, three Russian servicemen of the technical staff who were at the airfield were fatally injured. Aviation equipment was not damaged.

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    Post  Serberus Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:38 am

    Brate Podlodka, you can dislike my post all you want, wont make it any less true

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    Post  caveat emptor Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:38 am

    If they have problem with protection of  the bases, just relocate planes further inland. This is second time and Shaykovka was also hit once.
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    Post  lyle6 Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:49 am

    kvs wrote:Obviously NATzO did not get the intelligence it wanted with the previous attack and is trying to get it again.
    NATO's only B2 base is still grounded with a B2 stuck on the runway.

    These niggers better behave or there's going to be even more "malfunctions".

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    Post  mnztr Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:01 am

    Not impressive if Russia is stilll asleep at the switch on the second attack

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    Post  Erk Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:05 am

    Are you sure it's a second attack and not just someone writing about the first again?
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    Post  Serberus Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:07 am

    MOD already released a statement confirming the attack and 3 casualties so far.

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    Post  caveat emptor Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:10 am

    Some channels talk about 4 wounded, as well.
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    Post  nomadski Mon Dec 26, 2022 9:58 am

    RIP to those that died . Agree that objective seems to be to get intelligence about Russia strategic AD , since militarily these attacks alone  , unlike other attacks on pipelines and airbase in Crimea , do not amount to much , apart from psychological impact . If Ukrs had many of these drones , then they would launch them , and  rare incidents points to limited stocks . Also if soldiers killed on the  ground , with no planes damaged , then this means drones not accurate or agile , and they  just dive at the ground , once any  target is identified !

    I wanted to say that these attacks on Russia or Russian speakers , should be seen as attacks by NATO . I do not agree that , we can attribute responsibility to Ukrs , just because they pull the trigger . Without NATO help , many of these attacks would be impossible for Ukrs to carry out . Therefore  NATO directly  carried out the attacks and a mirrored response is needed by Russia , at some point  . So far they owe Russia : A couple of warship damaged or sunk , a few fighter jet destroyed on ground , a couple of strategic pipelines for oil or internet , a couple of strategic nuclear bombers destroyed on the ground , several soldiers / civilians killed by artillery or Rockets , frozen assets .......


    The meat grinder works both ways . If Russia ready and accepted the meat grinder concept and a long war of many years , then cumulative effect of all these attacks becomes significant . How much did NATO loose ? I still think Russia should go for lightning war and aim to finish war in no more than another year , before it is forced to retaliate against NATO and before it suffers significant damages .

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Mon Dec 26, 2022 12:54 pm

    Putin finally admits that he was too gullible with the West. He even apologized for it to the Russian people. His good faith in the West brought lots of bad things to Russian people.

    He says the Minsk agreement was a big mistake and he mistakenly believed that the West would keep its word.

    It is good if he finally gets it but ten years too late I’m afraid. Had he not signed the Minsk agreements the DPR/LPR would have defeated the Ukrainian military and the whole of Donbass would have been liberated.

    It was Merkel herself who admitted that the two Minsk agreements were signed to prevent Ukrainian military collapse and to give Ukraine time, money and resources to rebuild its military to take back Donbass and Crimea. It was not about reaching a lasting peace but about helping Ukraine win the war.

    Now, with almost a year after Russia launched its “SMO”, Donetsk is still under constant Ukrainian shelling. Russia has been unable to defeat Ukraine. It proves that the West was successful in arming Ukraine against Russia from 2015 to 2022.
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    Post  GarryB Mon Dec 26, 2022 1:31 pm

    The fact of the matter is that there are millions of things they can do, from thousands of airfields and cities and towns to fuel dumps and ammo storage sites that they can try to hit at any time.

    We hear about their occasional successes, but just as often we also read about several drones being shot down in the middle of nowhere.

    This is war... the enemy are dirty bastards but they are not stupid... thinking you can protect every single thing and keep every Russian safe is naive and childish.

    A change in targeting policy might help... one that targets foreigners helping the Orcs, or even opens new fronts throughout HATO countries... some tiny drones with very small explosive charges flown into and ammo or fuel dump in Poland could start all sorts of fires, or even small drones flown into the flight path of an expensive F-35 taking off that gets sucked into the air intake on takeoff... explosions and fires can happen anywhere... perhaps threats of playing such a game will lead to the US reigning in its little chihuahua... otherwise start hitting oligarchs property in the Ukraine, and senior members of their nazi parties could be targeted...

    Putin finally admits that he was too gullible with the West. He even apologized for it to the Russian people. His good faith in the West brought lots of bad things to Russian people.

    Up until this year Russia was never really in a good position to fight the west... the combination of Covid and now energy issues they have created for themselves, the west is actually rather vulnerable.

    It is good if he finally gets it but ten years too late I’m afraid. Had he not signed the Minsk agreements the DPR/LPR would have defeated the Ukrainian military and the whole of Donbass would have been liberated.

    Well you can say that but equally such dramatic success could have led to the west having a HATO intervention to save their puppet state... up until that point Russia had not sent any aide to the freedom fighters but once HATO troops were officially there how could Russia then send in troops?

    Now, with almost a year after Russia launched its “SMO”, Donetsk is still under constant Ukrainian shelling. Russia has been unable to defeat Ukraine. It proves that the West was successful in arming Ukraine against Russia from 2015 to 2022.

    It proves the leadership of a country... no matter how corrupt and self serving can fool a population to fight to the death against a force they can't beat.

    They are gradually advancing and eventually they will take a few key areas which will make the areas around impossible to hold... which means collapse or withdrawal across open territory... a massacre in the making...

    Give it time... this is a war of self defence... Russia needs to continue for as long as it takes... they have power and they have food and they are expanding BRICS etc...

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Mon Dec 26, 2022 2:04 pm

    The FSB got into a firefight with a group of special forces in the Bryansk region, apparently. All were killed. They were carrying western (U.S?) explosives and suppressed SIG MPX submachineguns.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Dec 26, 2022 2:13 pm

    This update is from MoA


    Translated from Russian FYI, MOD Summary Dec26:

    ПЕРЕХВАТ (Z) (Intercept (Z)) (Open/Public TG link)

    Summary by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of a special military operation on the territory of Ukraine (26 December 2022)

    The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue to conduct a special military operation.

    💥 In the Kupyansk direction, up to 20 Ukrainian soldiers, an infantry fighting vehicle and two vehicles were destroyed as a result of a concentrated fire strike on the accumulation of AFU manpower and equipment near the settlement of Kislovka, Kharkiv region.

    💥 In the Krasno-Limansky direction, Russian artillery fire hit AFU units in the areas of Makiivka and Nevskoye settlements of the Lugansk People's Republic, as well as Terny and Torskoye of the Donetsk People's Republic.

    ◽ In addition, a Ukrainian sabotage and reconnaissance group and an AFU mortar team were destroyed in the areas of Stelmakhivka and Chervonaya Dibrova in the Luhansk People's Republic. The losses of the enemy in this direction amounted to more than 30 Ukrainian soldiers, two armored combat vehicles and two pickup trucks.

    💥 In the Donetsk direction, Russian troops continued successful offensives, during which they occupied advantageous lines and positions. More than 35 Ukrainian servicemen, including five senior officers, were killed as a result of a strike on the command post of the 80th Airborne Assault Brigade of the AFU near Kramatorsk, Donetsk People's Republic. Total losses of the enemy during the day in this direction were up to 100 servicemen, four infantry fighting vehicles and eight vehicles.

    💥 On the South Donets direction, artillery fire and active actions of Russian troops defeated AFU units in the areas of Vladimirovka, Ugledar, Novodonetskoye and Novoselka settlements of the Donetsk People's Republic. More than 40 Ukrainian servicemen, two armored combat vehicles and three pickup trucks were destroyed.

    💥 Rocket troops and artillery hit 63 AFU artillery units in firing positions, manpower and military equipment in 79 areas. In the areas of Elizavetovka and Slovyansk settlements of the Donetsk People's Republic, temporary deployment points of the 72nd mechanized brigade of the AFU as well as foreign mercenaries were hit.

    💥 Two Ukrainian Grad multiple rocket launcher vehicles were destroyed during counter-battery warfare in the areas of Pervomaiskoye in the Donetsk People's Republic and Kamyshevakha in the Zaporozhye region.

    💥 Three Ukrainian D-30 howitzers were destroyed near Torskoye, Vodyane and Maryinka settlements of Donetsk People's Republic.

    💥 A US-made M777 artillery system, which was used for shelling residential areas of Donetsk city, was uncovered and destroyed near Georgiyivka settlement of Donetsk People's Republic.


    💥 Two US-made HIMARS multiple rocket launchers, two Gvozdika self-propelled howitzers, five D-30 howitzers, as well as three units of special vehicles were destroyed near Kramatorsk, Donetsk People's Republic.

    💥 Anti-aircraft defense forces destroyed seven Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles in the areas of Kreminnaia, Luhansk People's Republic, Chervonoye, Kuteynikove, Kropivnitske, Donetsk People's Republic and Zmievka, Kherson region, overnight.

    ◽ In addition, two HIMARS multiple rocket launchers were intercepted in the areas of Rubezhnoye and Krasnorechenskoye of the Luhansk People's Republic, as well as two HARM anti-radar missiles near the settlement of Bayrak of the Donetsk People's Republic.

    📊 In total, since the beginning of the special military operation destroyed ((+?) over preceding 24hrs):
    - 352 aircraft,
    - 192 helicopters,
    - 2,731(+5) unmanned aerial vehicles,
    - 399 anti-aircraft missile systems,
    - 7,249(+9) tanks and other armoured combat vehicles,
    - 944(+4) multiple rocket launcher combat vehicles,
    - 3,719(+11) field artillery guns and mortars,
    - 7,765(+18) pieces of special military vehicle equipment.

    Comment:

    Though the claimed destruction of 399 anti-aircraft missile systems has not changed for some time, the regular routine destruction of S-300/Buk AD batteries radars, which cannot be replaced or repaired(no parts)(ex-soviet manufacture), routinely renders affected AD batteries non combat-effective regardless (Kill equivalent).

    15 total Arty pieces destroyed in only 24hrs (4 MBRLS & 11 Tubes) is a significant 'uptick' compared to the norm. In particular qty x 9 (2 HIMARS, 2 Gvozdika SPGs & 5 D-30 howitzers) in vicinity Kramatorsk alone.

    IF sustained over the coming 5-10 days, in isolation, a likely indicator of targeted enemy fires(Fire Support) destruction & suppression, preparatory to significant offensive Op/s.

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    Post  Isos Mon Dec 26, 2022 2:28 pm

    Something was definitly downed but too late. They need to install another layer of pantsirs few km away from the base. The furter they are the more systems they need. But totally worth it. 3 pantsirs on the airbase and another 12 some 10km away from it.

    Or do what the soviets did when facing germans. Move them accross Urals out of reach from ukrainian drones and missiles.


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    Post  Stealthflanker Mon Dec 26, 2022 3:06 pm

    Isos wrote:Something was definitly downed but too late. They need to install another layer of pantsirs few km away from the base. The furter they are the more systems they need. But totally worth it. 3 pantsirs on the airbase and another 12 some 10km away from it.

    They need more air patrol tho... These drones should be picked by A-50 and intercepted with MiG-31 or other fighter aircrafts. Ground based systems are just not enough to deal with apparently low flying drones.

    But then again nobody know how many drones being launched or how many being intercepted as one drone is just way too unlikely.

    I'm starting to feel that Ukraine do have spy in the PVO's which FSB or related agency havent able to uproot yet.

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    Post  Isos Mon Dec 26, 2022 3:20 pm

    Why would they need spies ? That base is well known and they park their aircraft in line close each from another.

    That base is also reachable by drones.

    Since AD can't have 100%Pk some drones will go through. Awacs can't be up 24/7, smartest thing to do is relocate the tupolevs far from Ukraine in Siberia. Also dispatch the fighters when they are parked because if one is hit plenty will burn. They are patked like cars after like the 4th successful attack on their bases.
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    Post  flamming_python Mon Dec 26, 2022 3:30 pm

    serephonx wrote:So they rely on shorad to stop these drones, second time now, attempted attack. But debris in both cases kill soldiers?

    This doesn't add up and I don't bieve it. Most won't and the Russians government needs to be more transparent or they will face hardship later on.

    They will figure this out and the flight path taken. Of course since flights still happening around Russia and these things fly low and slow enough, it should be worrying to the authorities as to why such devices are slipping through, and to a very important base.

    They told the truth last time. Who says they're lying now?

    But either way it's a strategic airbase and part of the nuclear triad. It's subject to strict secrecy. They're not obligated to be transparent, if doing so can harm Russia's security.

    I'm concerned about the reliance on SHORAD systems too. Why haven't they got fighters in the air or an AWACS up there at all times? Yeah it's a strain, but this is a time of war, it's no time for laxness; key facilities should be on high-alert and have extra assets operating in support.

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