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    Post  Airbornewolf Sun Nov 27, 2022 9:06 pm

    If Russia just waits for a few weeks, Nature will run it's course and eliminate the Ukrainians for them in the trenches.

    Current conditions in Ukrainian trenches


    Also, Ukrainians are having some bad times at Bakhmut.
    Ukrainian doctors report it is an meatgrinder for them right now.
    According to Ukrainian doctors they got around 250 troops being brought in daily.
    I left out the NSFW stuff.

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    Post  franco Sun Nov 27, 2022 9:19 pm


    Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin commented on the storming of Artemovsk today:

    "Bahkmut is a large, well-fortified area with roads, suburbs, and water barriers. The Ukrainian army is well-prepared and offers decent resistance.
    Our task is not Bakhmut itself, but to destroy the Ukrainian army and reduce its combat potential, which is extremely positive in other directions, which is why this operation has been dubbed the "Bakhmut meat grinder."

    https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1596930605220261888?cxt=HHwWgMDT8ZX7t6ksAAAA

    NOTE: this philosophy could be applied to the whole Russian SMO

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Nov 27, 2022 9:35 pm

    Rybar Telegram (Translated)(Aggregation of news reports)

    Latest NATO Lend-Lease Western arms and military equipment supplies to Ukraine ...

    As part of the new package of military assistance, the following types of equipment and weapons will be delivered/planned for delivery to Ukraine, :

    ▪Belgium
    ➖10 underwater drones
    ➖2 mobile laboratories

    ▪Germany
    ➖ Qty x ? ammunition for M270 MARS II MLRS
    ➖3 M1070 Oshkosh heavy-duty semi-trailers
    17 vehicles for border guards
    ➖1 forklift truck
    ➖1 forklift truck, ➖2 spare parts for the M2 heavy machine gun
    ➖24 MG3 armored recovery vehicles
    ➖10 anti-drone sensors
    ➖20 special devices for electronic devices to protect against drones
    ➖116 field heaters

    ▪Luxembourg

    ➖6 Primoco One UAVs

    ▪Norway
    ➖1 (Yes, qty x 1) SAU M109 (M109 is US 155mm turreted self-propelled howitzer (1960's))
    ➖20 thousand spare parts for M109
    ➖55 thousand pieces of winter clothing
    ➖55 thousand bandages and individual first-aid kits
    ➖30 thousand field radios

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Nov 27, 2022 9:42 pm

    The fighting is taking its toll and surely can't be hidden or ignored politically foe much longer?

    The main necropolis of Polish Olsztyn will soon look like a US military cemetery: a large lawn, and identical tombstones on it, writes NDP.

    The reason for this decision of the city authorities was the sharply increased number of burials of military personnel.

    This situation has become a real problem for the local government of Olsztyn, on whose territory the 16th Pomeranian Mechanized Division is stationed. Almost daily military funerals, combined with honorary salvos, began to irritate the residents and provoked numerous complaints against the city administration and the command of the 16th Division. To avoid unnecessary noise, the authorities decided to create a separate "American" cemetery.

    For 10 months of bloody battles, according to information from publicly available sources in Ukraine, more than 1.2 thousand Polish citizens died, including military personnel and veterans of the 16th division.

    There are already 1700 such burials in Olsztyn alone.



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    News that Geran-2 are in the air, Kherson area. Also rumours that the DA and the Black Sea Fleet are preparing the next attacks.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:33 pm

    ❗The railway in Krivoy Rog in Ukraine will not work for a long time, - head of the Krivoy Rog military administration Yevgeny Sitnichenko.

    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/22563

    From what I can pick up the strike prevents the 17th Tank brigade from deploying via rail.

    This outage is critical. Kivroy Rog is the rail hub for east bound traffic to both Zaproizhe and Diepr, from which cargoes go eastward to the front. A look at the map confirms this.

    This strike is not accidental. It is for the express purpose of immobilizing Ukie reserve formations, and denying front line units ammo, gas, and food.

    Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 27 2022 20:41 utc | 94

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/11/ukraine-open-thread-2022-210.html#comments

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    Post  Isos Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:56 pm

    Also, Ukrainians are having some bad times at Bakhmut.
    Ukrainian doctors report it is an meatgrinder for them right now.
    According to Ukrainian doctors they got around 250 troops being brought in daily.
    I left out the NSFW stuff.

    Lot of them are just mobilized civilinas. I don't have feelings for nazis but it's hurtful to see good people die for those scums because they are mobilized and can't eqcape the war.

    Russia should use more flyers dropping calling for them to surrender. What they need is protection from nazi more than anything else.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:06 pm

    Damn, the empty blood stained stretchers. I know one or two of you want Russia to essentially commit genocide and thus lower Russia to a state no better than the Nazis Russia is fighting, but damn Ukraine may never recover from this. The fact is that they are already sending volksturm 2.0 in to battle and most of these are fighting because they are committing suicide so the American political and economic elites and their EU counterparts can make money. I want nazism and its NATO enablers curbstomped, but I do feel sick for Ukraine's future because if they don't seek peace soon this war will be a demographic disaster that will have been for NOTHING.

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    Post  thegopnik Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:21 pm

    Please be the break we have been waiting for.



    Edit: I guess it makes sense.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:54 pm

    Well Gopnik, I can only hope.  It would make considerable sense considering all sustained rocket, drone, and bomber attacks against Ukrainian targets the past couple months and the damage to Ukrainian transport and energy and miltary infrastructure they have inflicted.  The weather makes it make sense too, and considering the time it takes to get reservists back up to combat worthy condition the time table would make sense too.  So would the logistics situation.  However, much like my favorite professional gridiron football team and its talks of winning the Superbowl, I'll believe it when I see it.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:28 am

    Coffins look small

    Two scoops per coffin?

    Graveyard space optimization is a factor for Ukropia.

    Their territory is going to get smaller again soon enough...

    Soviet artillery in WW2 was also noted to have slow targeting speed compared to US, german and british artillery, mostly relying on preplanned barrages, due to an excessively long killchain, lack of trained observers, preference to fire in direct fire, and lack of radios.

    Yeah, the Germans repeatedly said the Soviets were pushovers and they preferred fighting them over the amazing western allies because of their devastating artillery.... Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

    The children in the Volksturm particularly thought the Soviet use of artillery was very poor.

    Seems like russians are relearing this painful lesson, although the problem is mostly bureaucratic and in lack of training rather than technology.

    What the **** would you know?

    It seems western artillery are not fast enough either, otherwise fitting their drones with weapons would make no sense at all.... their inability to hit targets in real time as they are detected by their drones led to their drones carrying the weapons they used to hit the targets instead... imagine that... the kill chain is too long in the west as well... imagine that.

    Thats why russia needs those heat seeking EFP submunitions of the smerch in much more massive quantities.

    Actually what would make rather more sense would be to develop a sensor fused top attack submunition compatible with drones that can be released from an internal weapon bay and carried by a range of drones but ready for immediate use when you spot a target... drop the munition directly above and defeat these vehicles quickly, easily and directly...

    We might see it on the battlefield next year if it has passed everything successfully

    Or test it anyway...

    Russia should use more flyers dropping calling for them to surrender. What they need is protection from nazi more than anything else.

    Would just be paper they would burn to keep warm, and anyone thinking of acting would be quickly shot, either by nazis or by orc patriots who don't want to surrender either.

    I want nazism and its NATO enablers curbstomped, but I do feel sick for Ukraine's future because if they don't seek peace soon this war will be a demographic disaster that will have been for NOTHING.

    The first step to dealing with a problem gambler is for that gambler to admit they have a problem and for these guys it is Russia that is the problem.

    Please be the break we have been waiting for.

    A Russian offensive might not even be the plan... they might just continue to grind down the enemy over the coming months and ensure economic and political stability at home... settling in for the long haul.

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:48 am

    Isos wrote:Lot of them are just mobilized civilinas. I don't have feelings for nazis but it's hurtful to see good people die for those scums because they are mobilized and can't eqcape the war. ...

    They could have easily escaped the war, not voting for Nazis and engaging in foreign sponsored coup d'etat would have been a good first step



    Isos wrote:Russia should use more flyers dropping calling for them to surrender. What they need is protection from nazi more than anything else...

    It's not Russia's job to protect Nazis from Nazis

    Wasting paper instead of dropping bombs is how this thing escalated in the first place



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    Post  diabetus Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:38 am

    It's too bad that an encirclement of Bakhmut appears to be impossible and costly frontal assaults are the only method used.
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    Post  ALAMO Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:06 am

    Post PapaDragon Today at 4:48 am

    Isos wrote:
    Lot of them are just mobilized civilinas. I don't have feelings for nazis but it's hurtful to see good people die for those scums because they are mobilized and can't eqcape the war. ...

    They could have easily escaped the war, not voting for Nazis and engaging in foreign sponsored coup d'etat would have been a good first step


    It is hardly as simple as that.
    In both presidential elections, Ukrainians voted for candidates that publicly voted for peace.
    That was one of the most crucial factors in the electoral campaign. So we can't conclude that Ukrainians didn't want peace, it would be a lie.
    In the last election, nazis gathered a whole od 2.5% votes. And the clowns party was actively advocating for peace and resolving the civil war issue through negotiations. In general, parties that opted for some kind of peace talks gained some 80% of votes.
    So this is not a case of how the people vote, but how the political class is acting after the elections. Opposite to what was claimed.
    And the other very important factor, that having de facto marginal political representant, nazis grabbed a huge amount of power. Including a big share and influence in power structures and armed forces. And that is the biggest western sponsored and created lie, as the Ukro army was turning into Ukrowehrmacht assisted by UkroSS and UkroGestapo. It was in 2020 I believe when a quite big scandal emerged in Canada, when active duty military personnel has loudly spoken that they have been received by the de facto nazi military as guests.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:34 am

    07:58 🇷🇺🇺🇦 Good news this morning.
    Assault groups of PMC "Wagner" advanced near Kurdyumovka to the south of Artemovsk and liberated the village of Ozaryanovka. Thus, the fortified area of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Kurdyumovka is covered from the south, which creates additional difficulties for the enemy.

    PMC "Wagner" liberated Ozaryanovka south of Bakhmut

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:21 am

    A settlement north has been liberated as well, Zelenopolye.
    Seems that the defense lines are cracking. Some panic among the garrison is visible.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:07 pm

    yep, Wagner seems to have broken into the Ukro lines south of Bakhmut:
    Casualty rates among Ukrainian troops seems to be high today again.

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    "Andreevka came under the control of PMCs "Wagner"

    The units of the Wagner PMCs continue to advance south of Bakhmut, breaking into the prepared enemy defenses and inflicting heavy losses on the APU.

    From the field, they confirm that the third settlement — Andreevka - has already passed under the control of the "musicians" today."

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    Post  Hole Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:11 pm

    Apparently 4 Tu-95s in the air and a frigate left the harbour.  unshaven

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:13 pm

    It's Monday. Russkie will be running out of missiles. Laughing

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:25 pm

    Chronicle of the Special Military Operation for 26-27 Nov 2022⚡

       #Belgorod Region:

       ▪ Ukrainian militants shelled the outskirts of #Shebekino, power lines were damaged. There are no victims or injured.

       #Kharkov Region:

       ▪ Ukrainian commanders are moving AFU units and nationalist regiments to the #Kharkov and #Volchansk districts bordering the #Belgorod region.

       ▪ Mobilisation activities are being forced in #Kharkov, #Volchansk, #Izyum and #Balakleya.

       #Starobelsk Direction:

       ▪ In the #Svatovo sector, fighting is taking place west of #Kuzemovka.

       ➖ Both sides are engaged in artillery duels along the entire line of contact.

       ▪ In the #Lyman sector, Ukrainian units attempted an offensive towards #Ploshchanka.

       The Russian Armed Forces repulsed the enemy attack, forcing the militants to withdraw to their initial positions with losses.

       #Soledar Direction:

       ▪ In the #Bakhmut (#Artemovsk) area, Wagner PMC troops continue fighting with AFU units in the southeast of #Bakhmut.

       ▪ Heavy fighting continues south of #Bakhmut in #Ozeryanovka.

       #Lugansk People's Republic:

       ▪ Ukrainian militants shelled #Svatovo and Nizhnyaya Duvanka. Residential buildings, a gas pipeline and power lines were damaged. At least two people were injured.

       #Donetsk Direction:

       ▪ Enemy militants shelled the #Donetsk agglomeration with barrel and missile artillery. Residential buildings and infrastructure facilities in #Donetsk, #Makeyevka, #Mineralnoye, #Yasynuvata and #Gorlovka have been hit. There are also civilian casualties.

       #Zaporozhye Direction:

       ▪ In preparation for the offensive, the Ukrainian command is moving more forces to the #Orekhov area.

       ▪ In the #Zaporozhye region, another 9-for-9 prisoner-of-war exchange took place on Saturday.

       ▪ Artillery duels continue along the line of contact The Russian Armed Forces shelled enemy positions in #Yelenokonstantinovka, #Zaliznichnoye, Malaya Tokmachka and #Shcherbaki.

       #Dnipropetrovsk Region:

       ▪ Russian troops have hit a railway infrastructure facility in #KrivoyRog.

       #Kherson Direction on Southern Front:

       ▪ The Ukrainian command continues to redeploy forces to the directions of #Zaporozhye, #Starobelsk and #Soledar.

       ▪ Russian missile forces and artillery have hit enemy positions in #Antonovka, #Chernobaevka, #Berislav and #Pridneprovskoye.

       ▪ Ukrainian militants struck residential buildings in #Kakhovka and Novaya Kakhovka, killing one woman.


    https://t.me/sitreports/1329

    SMO Day 277 results".

    Highlights from the past 24 hours:

    ▪ The Russian Armed Forces destroyed up to 100 foreign mercenaries and six armored vehicles near the DPR's Chasov Yar settlement.

    ▪ In the Kupyansk direction, the Russian artillery fire eliminated up to 30 Ukrops and two pickup trucks.

    ▪ Nazi attempts to attack were thwarted in the Krasno-Limansky direction. As a result, up to 50 Ukrops were killed and wounded.

    ▪ Up to 70 Nazis, two tanks, two armored fighting vehicles, and five pick-up trucks were eliminated in the Donetsk direction.

    ▪ In the South Donetsk direction, up to 60 Ukrainians losses were sustained.

    ▪ The Russian Armed Forces destroyed an ammunition depot near Dnipropetrovsk.

    The Russian Armed Forces also destroyed four Ukrainian rocket and artillery weapons depots in Zaporizhzhia Region.

    ▪ Air defense forces shot down two HIMARS rocket launchers in the Kherson region. In addition, an Excalibur-guided artillery shell was intercepted in Sumy Region.


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    Post  JohninMK Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:29 pm

    Boris Rozhin on the Storming of #Artemovsk/#Bakhmut; pub. 27 Nov 2022, 22:38:zap:

    1. Our troops retain the initiative here and continue their offensive.

    2. The main battles are taking place outside #Opytnoye, south of #Artemovsk towards #Kurdyumovka, on the eastern outskirts of the city and to the northeast towards Krasnaya Gora.

    3. There is currently no "encirclement" of the enemy in #Artemovsk. The enemy, despite heavy losses, continues to maintain the integrity of the front, regularly saturating it with transferred reserves, which are concentrated in the Chasov Yar area.

    4. There is also no reason to believe that the enemy will respond in any way to the bizarre "ultimatums" being thrown around. The AFU command is well aware that if #Artemovsk is lost, the "Flower of Popasna 2.0" will blossom there.

    5. After the loss of #Opytnoye and the start of an assault on #Artemovsk, the enemy clearly expects to hold on to the eastern part of #Artemovsk for some time and then retreat to the western parts of the city. The bridge in the city centre has long been undermined. Should the city be lost, they will gradually retreat to Chasov Yar.

    6. In the current realities, one might well agree with Prigozhin's view that the more our troops shake up the enemy forces in #Artemovsk, the better.


    https://t.me/sitreports/1326

    The AFU was able to cross the Ingulets River at Darievsky Bridge, which had previously been destroyed by the AFU when it withdrew its units from the right-bank part of Kherson Oblast.

    When Dariev Bridge was under the control of the RF Armed Forces, it was probably the third most important bridge after Antonov Bridge and Kakhovka HPP, as it provided logistics from Crimea to Kherson to bypass the destroyed Antonov Bridge.

    After the Antonov bridge was taken out of service, only the Kakhovka hydropower station could be used, but the Ukrainian Armed Forces also bombed the Darjevsky bridge. Unlike the Dnieper, it was a simple enough task to cross the Ingulets, which the RF Armed Forces did in its time.

    Currently, the AFU crossing is in the same place where the AFU crossing was earlier set up. What does this give the AFU? It provides an uninterrupted logistical link between the Nikolaev and Krivoy Rog (Nikopol) directions. Thus, Kherson can now be supplied from both the Mykolaiv and Dnepropetrovsk sides.


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    Post  kvs Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:44 pm

    I still do not fully understand why the Russian army is not active in the fighting in Donetsk. It is essentially Wagner and the DNR militia
    that is doing all the fighting. It seemed to me in early summer that the Donetsk fighting would be wrapped up by the end of August but
    it has been drawn out instead. The grinding down objective does not imply that the Donetsk fighting needs to be drawn out. The front
    is much longer and we saw plenty of grinding in Kherson.

    If people have links or ideas on this it would be nice to post them here.

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