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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #33

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    Post  franco Thu Nov 24, 2022 9:35 pm

    The Ministry of Defense announced the return of 50 Russian soldiers from Ukrainian captivity

    After negotiations with the territory controlled by Kiev, 50 Russian soldiers who were in mortal danger in captivity were returned. This was announced on November 24 in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

    According to the report, the released servicemen will be delivered by Military transport aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces to Moscow for treatment and rehabilitation in medical institutions of the department.

    "All those released are provided with the necessary medical and psychological assistance," the Defense Ministry said.

    Earlier on Thursday, acting head of the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) Denis Pushilin in his Telegram channel announced the exchange of prisoners with the Ukrainian side according to the "50-50"formula. According to Pushilin, Ukraine received the same number of Ukrainians. Most of them are soldiers of the country's army.

    Also, the exchange of prisoners of war between Russia and Ukraine took place on November 23 according to the "35 for 35"formula. Russian soldiers who returned from Ukrainian captivity arrived in Sevastopol. At the meeting place, doctors checked the health status of some of them.

    The Russian Defense Ministry noted that the servicemen released from captivity were in grave danger. At the moment, the returned military personnel receive the necessary medical and psychological assistance.

    The previous prisoner exchange with Ukraine took place on November 10. Then 35 fighters of the Luhansk People's Republic (LPR) also returned to Russia.

    On February 24, Russia launched a special operation to protect the Donbas. The decision was made against the background of the aggravation of the situation in the region as a result of shelling by the Ukrainian military.

    https://translated.turbopages.org/proxy_u/ru-en.en.f0f8bbf8-637fd458-05351e85-74722d776562/https/iz.ru/1430822/2022-11-24/minoborony-soobshchilo-o-vozvrashchenii-50-rossiiskikh-voennykh-iz-ukrainskogo-plena

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    Post  franco Thu Nov 24, 2022 9:39 pm

    In the DPR formed a unit of Ukrainian prisoners of war

    In the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR), a battalion was formed from among captured soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU), TASS reported on November 24, citing sources.

    "The battalion, which included Ukrainian prisoners of war, has already been fully formed. The guys are already ready to go to the front line, " the law enforcement agency of the republic said.

    It is noted that the new battalion will include 50 former soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who defected to the side of the DPR.

    https://translated.turbopages.org/proxy_u/ru-en.en.f0f8bbf8-637fd458-05351e85-74722d776562/https/iz.ru/1430522/2022-11-24/v-dnr-sformirovali-podrazdelenie-iz-ukrainskikh-voennoplennykh

    NOTE: Don't believe it would be a good idea to get captured for these troops. Understatement of the month at least...

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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu Nov 24, 2022 9:48 pm

    zare wrote:Chinese-Russian rapport has been largely based on one-sided cutting edge tech transfers. China is developing faster than Russia by definition, so that's not a reason for stable alliance.

    No, its based on mutual needs.  Russia is the spine of Eurasia and China requires a friendly Russa at her back to give her the strategic defense in depth on the World Island that she otherwise lacks.  Russia has energy and raw materials in abundance, and China needs these things. Chna is faced with an increasingly hostile Globalist-controlled authoritarian West that is both jealous of Chinas success and fearful that the Chinese model will supplant Western so-called "liberal democracy" in the Global South.  Lies about Xinjiang and the Uighurs. Agitation over Taiwan. China needs Russia in her corner.  A Russia that is defeated or otherwise subdued by the Collective West would be an unmitigated geopolitical/geoeconomic disaster of the 1st magnitude.  China will simply NOT let that happen.

    India is similar, except that the West has not yet turned its venom against New Delhi. Their turn will come however as they contine to forge their seperate path and reject Western dominance. Why else would India be backing Russia if not for their perceptions of what is in their long term interests?

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    Post  thegopnik Thu Nov 24, 2022 10:28 pm

    Well congrats to turkey burning the oil field in syria.

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    Post  flamming_python Thu Nov 24, 2022 10:42 pm

    Report from last month about Central Asians who are signing up as volunteers for the operation

    https://otr-online.ru/news/migranty-iz-azii-idut-dobrovolcami-v-rossiyskuyu-armiyu-204989.html
    Migrants from Asia volunteer for the Russian army
    19:50, 03 October 2022

    Foreigners want to replenish the ranks of the Russian army. Queues of people wishing to take part in the operation in Ukraine are lining up in the migration centers, OTR reports. Ilya Loginov found out what attracts volunteers from Central Asia.

    Buses arrive at the migration center every 15 minutes. Packed full of people. Mostly there are foreigners from Central Asia - Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, some from the North Caucasus.

    Many arrived to become fighters of the Russian army. Sukhrobbek is a native of Uzbekistan. Lives in Russia for seven years. Works as a cashier in Moscow. Ready to join the ranks of the military.

    Sukhrobbek Ramazon ugli, a volunteer from Uzbekistan: “There are experiences. But to be afraid - I'm not afraid. Why be afraid? We are men, we must go to defend our homeland sometime. Russia is the second home.

    His wife Elena accompanies him to the migration center. She worries about her husband, but supports his decision.

    Elena Pushkina, a resident of Moscow: “I am very happy for those guys who sincerely go there. Hardened, provincial people go there. They have a responsibility to our Motherland. And I want to say that we will always win.”

    On average, immigrants in Moscow earn 40-50 thousand rubles. And for participation in a special operation they offer 4 times more - volunteers say. Annual contract. month of training. And after returning - Russian citizenship.

    Migrant: “For those who wish, there is a sign on every window in any language. It says “Do you want to volunteer to serve in the Russian army?” There is also a monthly salary. The normal amount is 190 thousand.”

    Foreigners are reluctant to talk about their intention to go to the front. They are afraid for their lives, but above all, for their loved ones who remained abroad. They may face political pressure, threats, and even criminal liability.

    Migrant: “There are people who want 100%. I have such friends. But they will not go, because the responsibility there is terrible. The law, for example, the constitution of Tajikistan says that you cannot fight for a third country.”

    Foreigners spend 1.5 - 2 hours in the migration center. They say that inside there are queues of those wishing to serve under a contract.

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    Post  flamming_python Thu Nov 24, 2022 10:43 pm

    Well python, its because Macaroon is a tone deaf hypocritical bastard who condemns Russia for doing in Ukraine what every NATO nation does in war time.

    Well that goes without saying, but the same is true for the whole of Europe

    Who cares about Micron specifically?

    FP, don't exaggerate, it's maybe two guys hitting on France.
    I can't blame them. Had once a french girl and was not disappointed. Very Happy

    I missed my chance big time with one.
    But that's history Laughing

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:12 pm

    Yesterday, not sure if I posted it.

    Chronicle of the Special Military Operation for 23 Nov 2022⚡

    🩸 Russian troops have launched massive missile strikes on critical infrastructure in #Ukraine. Targets were hit in #Kiev, #Vyshgorod, #Kremenchuk, #Svetlovodsk, #Lvov, #Ladyzhyn, #Dnipropetrovsk, Krivoy Rog as well as in #Sumy, #Odessa, #Nikolaev, #Khmelnytsky and #Poltava regions.

    The attack caused power outages in most regions of the country. Staff at Ukrainian nuclear power plants have put the plants into emergency mode.

    #Belgorod Region:

    ▪ Ukrainian militants shelled the village of #Ustinka in #Belgorod region, damaging a residential building and power lines. There were temporary problems with electricity supply in three settlements. There were no fatalities or injuries.

    ▪ Enemy militants struck in near #Shebekino and damaged the roadway. There were no civilian casualties.

    #Vhoronezh Region:

    ▪ On the outskirts of #Voronezh, FSB officers liquidated an Ukrainian SRG that was planning to commit sabotage at military and energy facilities in the region.

    #Starobelsk Direction:

    ▪ In the Svatovo sector, units of the AFU's 92 Mechanized Brigade are preparing another attempt to storm Russian positions near #Kuzemovka.

    ▪ Ukrainian artillery struck residential buildings in #Novonikolskoye village.

    #Soledar Direction:

    ▪ The situation in this area has not changed significantly. Clashes continue on the south-eastern outskirts of #Bakhmut (#Artemovsk)

    #Donetsk Direction (MAP):

    ▪ Russian motorized rifle units continue to advance into the centre of #Maryinka. Russian fighters are mopping up the vicinity of School No.2 and prepare to storm the administration buildings and the House of Culture in the city centre.

    ▪ Ukrainian militants have shelled residential buildings and civilian facilities in #Donetsk, #Gorlovka, #Yakovlevka, #Panteleymonovka, #Novobakhmutovka and other localities with barrel and rocket artillery.

    #Zaporozhye Direction (MAP):

    ▪ In preparation for an offensive in the #Orekhov sector, Ukrainian commanders are moving personnel and armoured vehicles to the #Orekhov and #Kirovo (#Tavriyskoye) areas.

    ▪ Russian SRGs conducted a night raid on a company base of the 3rd Battalion of the 65th Mechanized Brigade in the direction of #Gulyaypolskoye. About three dozen enemy fighters were killed, the survivors escaped from their positions.

    ▪ Another exchange of prisoners of war took place near the village of #Kamenskoye according to the "35 for 35" formula. Four servicemen from the DPR and two from the LPR were among those who returned to Russia.

    ▪ Along the line of contact, artillery duels continue: Russian troops hit enemy positions in #Chervonoye, #Poltavka and #Temirovka.

    #Kherson Direction on Southern Front:

    ▪ In #Kherson, SBU and national police officers continue to conduct filtering operations to identfy pro-Russian citizens.

    ▪ Russian forces have hit AFU facilities in #Kherson and also hit enemy positions in #Tokarevka, #Dudchany, #Dneprovsky and #Kachkarovka.


    https://t.me/sitreports/1164

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:13 pm

    Implications of the strikes on Ukraine's energy system as of the morning of 24 November

       On the afternoon of 23 November, the Russian Armed Forces launched a massive missile strike on Ukraine's energy infrastructure. But as early as the morning of 24 November, power supply was resumed in parts of the regions.

       ▪The power supply in Kiev has been restored by 30%, but most districts are still without light. Water has been supplied to the left bank, while on the right bank, where most of the city is located, it should appear within a day. In the region, 1,125 settlements remain without light.

       ▪The situation with electricity supply in the neighboring Zhytomyr region is complicated. In Zhytomyr itself, the lights were switched on in the morning, but due to overload, they have been turned off again.

       ▪ Half of the districts in the Dnipropetrovsk region have already resumed power supply. But many villages still have no electricity, gas, or communications. In Dnipropetrovsk itself, only 15% of homes had electricity as of morning.

       ▪In Lviv, most homes have had light, gas, and water restored. Only in some neighborhoods, there is still no electricity.

       ▪ In Odessa and the region, the power supply to critical infrastructure has been restored. But most houses are still without light and electric transport is not working in the city.

       ▪ In Kharkiv Region, there is almost no light anywhere, and the metro and transport do not work. An Intercity passenger train is stranded in the neighboring Poltava region, with passengers left to fend for themselves. Electricity and water supplies have been partially restored in Sumy and Chernihiv oblasts.

       ▪ In Kirovohrad Region, light has been restored at critical infrastructure facilities. Some subscribers in Mykolayiv and Mykolayiv region have been connected.

       The situation is better in the western regions: apart from the Lviv region, light has partially appeared in Chernivtsi, Vinnytsia, Khmelnytskyi, and Ternopil regions. The restoration of the power supply was helped back up from Poland and Romania, which provided light to 90% of subscribers.

       ▪ A problematic situation remained in the Rivne region, where power was turned on but was switched off due to overload, and in the Ivano-Frankivsk region, where the power supply is very unstable.

       🔻 In general, the power supply can be expected to be restored in most areas during the day. To do critical damage to Ukraine's energy sector, infrastructure strikes need to continue.


    https://t.me/geromanat/3429

    On Zelensky's orders, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are mobilizing residents of Russian-speaking regions without exception; Western Ivano-Frankovsk and Lvov remain largely unaffected in the latest round of general mobilization - Representative of Russian security forces in the Kherson region, West Russia.


    https://t.me/IntelRepublic/9122

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:15 pm

    A terrorist attack was prevented on the South Stream, the FSB reported.

    "An attempt by the Ukrainian special services to commit a sabotage and terrorist act on the South Stream gas pipeline, through which energy supplies to Turkey and Europe are carried out, was prevented,as a result of the complex of operational search measures," the special service said.

    The Russians involved in the preparation and support of the terrorist attack were detained, 4 magnetic mines, 4 kg of plastite, delayed-action fuses, 593 000 rubles and means of communication with correspondence with the curator from the special services of Ukraine and the coordinates of the detonation site in the Volgograd region were seized.

    Criminal cases have been opened on the preparation of a terrorist attack, on participation in a terrorist community and its organization, and on illegal trafficking in explosives.

    Russian citizens involved in the preparation of a terrorist attack have been detained.


    https://t.me/azmilitary11/29395

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:31 pm

    Data from 2018, back then they had 230 diesel locomotives in operation, both passenger and freight.

    At the moment, there are 3,566 locomotives in the inventory park of Ukrzaliznytsia, of which 1,258 are shunting locomotives, 550 passenger and 1,758 freight locomotives.

    Such data was received by the CTS in PJSC UZ.

    Of the 550 passenger locomotives, 71 are diesel locomotives, 479 are electric locomotives. The fleet of mainline freight locomotives includes 609 diesel locomotives and 1149 electric locomotives.

    At the same time, all locomotives are taken into account in the statistics, with the exception of those that are in temporarily uncontrolled territory. The data is current as of September 1, 2018.

    It is noted that out of 550 passenger mainline locomotives, only 287 units (28 diesel locomotives and 259 electric locomotives) are in operation, another 165 cars are in a faulty condition, under repair or maintenance (43 of them are diesel locomotives, 122 are electric locomotives). Also, 98 passenger electric locomotives of constant voltage are in the reserve of PJSC UZ.

    As for 1,758 mainline freight locomotives, 945 of them are in operation, including 202 diesel locomotives and 743 electric locomotives. 782 freight locomotives (393 diesel locomotives, 389 electric locomotives) are faulty, under repair or maintenance. Another 14 diesel locomotives and 17 electric locomotives are in the reserve of Ukrzaliznytsia.

    https://cfts.org.ua/news/2018/09/30/stalo_izvestno_tochnoe_kolichestvo_lokomotivov_ukrzaliznytsi_i_skolko_iz_nikh_na_khodu_infografika_49703

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:39 pm

    The latest on Russia's UNSC position as reported by TASS:

    Russia will continue actions to impair Ukraine’s military potential until Kiev takes a realistic position at talks, Russian Permanent Representative to the United Nations Vasily Nebenzya said on Wednesday.

    According to the Russian diplomat, Russian forces are targeting "Ukraine’s infrastructure facilities in response to flooding that country with Western weapons and the reckless calls on Kiev to defeat Russia."

    "One of the goals of the special military operation is to undermine the Ukrainian army’s combat capabilities. And it will be attained to military means until the Kiev regime takes a realistic position, which will make it possible to discuss and try to settle those problems, which have prompted us to launch the special military operation," he said at a UN Security Council meeting.

    "So far, what we hear from Mr. Zelensky and his allies cannot be interpreted as readiness for peace but is rather a language of reckless threats and ultimatums. Kiev’s Western sponsors only encourage such an irresponsible course, since they are interested in a war on the Ukrainian territory until the last Ukrainian as it makes its possible for their defense sector to derive colossal profit and test NATO weapons," Nebenzya said. "This way, Western countries are seeking to establish their geopolitical hegemony at the expense of the lives ordinary Ukrainians."

    On October 4, Zelensky endorsed Ukraine’s Security and Defense Council resolution on the impossibility of talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin. On October 31, the Russian leader said that he saw no possibility of discussing any agreements with Ukraine as long as it shows no willingness to do that. However, Putin stressed, Moscow’s good will for talks is unchanged.


    https://tass.com/politics/1541181

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    Post  franco Fri Nov 25, 2022 12:09 am


    FP, don't exaggerate, it's maybe two guys hitting on France.
    I can't blame them. Had once a french girl and was not disappointed. Very Happy


    I missed my chance big time with one.
    But that's history Laughing


    Yeah French girls, even the ugly ones can be sexy... don't ask me how Embarassed

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    Post  Broski Fri Nov 25, 2022 2:17 am

    Migrants from Asia volunteer for the Russian army
    19:50, 03 October 2022

    Foreigners want to replenish the ranks of the Russian army. Queues of people wishing to take part in the operation in Ukraine are lining up in the migration centers, OTR reports. Ilya Loginov found out what attracts volunteers from Central Asia.

    Buses arrive at the migration center every 15 minutes. Packed full of people. Mostly there are foreigners from Central Asia - Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, some from the North Caucasus.

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    For $3000+ a month I'm not surprised.

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    Post  flamming_python Fri Nov 25, 2022 3:36 am

    Russian citizenship upon completion of the contract too

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    Post  Airbornewolf Fri Nov 25, 2022 3:47 am

    On an personal note.
    Money is never a good reason to sign up for War.

    You are fighting Nazi's that lack any single shred of humanity, backed by all NATO can throw behind them.

    It is not an "career".
    You either succeed.
    If you are lucky when things go south, withdraw.
    Or if the situation requires it. Fight to the Death.
    An option very few are ready for.

    Surrender is not an option.
    They will torture you on cam for all they can to just kill you in the end.

    Yet if you Surrender to the Nazi units of Kiev, you wish you did fight to the end.
    If one signs up, he/she should realize what the consequences are they are getting into.

    War, certainly this one does not adhere to any rules.
    The Russians do their best, but the Ukrainians are absolute monsters.
    it is kill or be killed.

    No money will ever make all of this right of what you will have to do to survive and do your job.


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    Post  zorobabel Fri Nov 25, 2022 5:54 am

    The energy infrastructure attacks are going to be a big thing in the next three months.

    Modern urban dwellers, who live in apartments or homes without wood stoves, can't generally survive temperatures below -5. Elderly especially begin dying en masse. They will have to evacuate cities.

    So I'm in a positive, patient mode.

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    Post  Erk Fri Nov 25, 2022 6:09 am

    Some questions about the flood of refugees that are heading from Ukraine to the EU.

    What happens if the EU stops them from coming in?

    Does that make Russia stop striking the power infrastructure?

    Does that turn Ukrainians against the EU?
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    Post  thegopnik Fri Nov 25, 2022 6:41 am



    Germany gives patriots to poland.
    Poland says give it to Ukraine.
    Germany NOOO YOU CANT DO THAT, ONLY NATO MEMBERS.
    Poland already had Patriots close to ukraine and I recall they have the good shit with GaN AESA radars.

    Man even I am starting to feel bad for Ukraine having these kind of people which you trust your lives with in their hands. there are already complaints that the military package aid deal from the U.S. was not as good as the last package deals that were offered. Than on January ,Congress will have new members but I still think a majorly rulled republican house would still approve of spending bills to Ukraine.

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Nov 25, 2022 7:05 am

    Just something to give you a wider picture.

    This emerged today on the Russkie TG channels. Carried as proof of Poles in the 404.

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    Called "documents of a Pole".

    This thing is called "vehicle card" and is assigned to the car, not a person. You transfer this with the car when is being sold.
    In this case, we talk about 20+ years old junky BMW pretending off road that was sold to Ukraine.
    Multiple times, Polish car documents or plates were used to deliver propaganda of the Poles there. It is not the case. Those cars are not even registered in 404, just delivered to the front line and destroyed.
    That is why Polish documents, plates, even some food, candies etc can be found inside - they have just arrived from Poland indeed.
    Not that there are no Poles, because obviously, they are. But I still don't have anything that would suggest the mass scale of the fact.

    By the way, as I was explaining tat to John a while ago, there are multiple cases of the English cars either, with the driving wheel on the right. Those are less expensive.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Nov 25, 2022 7:57 am

    Felt free, found one after about 5 second of searching , posted on 31 Oct (see below) claiming offensive in fortnight, so mid Nov
    Confirms what i wrote earlier. Maybe learn to navigate your own forum before accusing people of making shit up.

    So what does that prove?

    ucmvulcan, probably pissed off at your sky is falling pussy dribble claiming Russia is going to lose this if they don't harden the **** up soon bitching, he made a prediction based on his opinion.

    He was wrong... so you come back and declare victory.... what a faggot.

    If you read what he said properly he is pointing out to a newbie like yourself who doesn't understand military or logistics matters that certain weather conditions are not conducive to large operations... I understand you are a bit green and don't recognise such factors but he is not saying any Russia operations are begining any particular time, just that no operations will start before they are practical and now they are becoming practical due to the weather factors.

    You should thank him for such an important lesson in military stuff.

    No, I admit my estimation was incorrect. It was not meant as an insult, or maybe it was I can't remember and if it was well insulting people you don't know is frankly stupid so if there was insult intended on my part, please accept my apology.

    Pointing out that conditions at the time were not suitable for a Russian offensive and that waiting for winter conditions to arrive is a prerequisite for any potential offensive by either side is necessary is not something you should be apologising for... you said nothing about any Russian offensive and suggested waiting was necessary and you were right.

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    Building was sucessfully intercepted by NASAM

    This damage is too big to be caused by a relatively small AIM-120 warhead.
    I suppose that they intercepted something, and that is an aftermath of debris falling.

    I don't agree... if you look closely it is just a mess, there is little to no actual structural damage... this is a 40kg explosion in the air that blows crap around the place and messes things up but does not level buildings and structures like a 40kg HE bomb setting off a 400kg bomb in a cruise missile... which would blow down brick walls and cause some real damage.

    Funny seeing people who claimed russia will take this city and that city AND that they should (Pod) change their tune once it's clear they aren't....THEN attacking people for calling out their hypocrisy honestly, its a comedy show here.

    Pussies who run away screaming Putin and Russia are losing this conflict and the sky is falling, come crawling back two weeks later saying Putin and Russia haven't won yet so I was right... pathetic... such people deserve a bit of ridicule.

    I have repeated several times before, War is a game played with a smile on your face... if you can't smile then don't play.

    Shit happens in war... even strong powerful armies suffer defeats or get attacked or surprised occasionally... if you are going to burst into tears and cry and demand everyone in government and the military resigns then get out of the kitchen and go read a book till it is over.

    For Russia, the real spade was obviously only Crimea, while the story of DNR and LNR came much later.
    I am sure that the Russians want a land corridor to Crimea, and that they will return to Kherson - whether through negotiations or military conflict.

    The Ukraine voted for Zelensky to kick Poroshenko out of office after 2014, Zelensky was elected promising peace and talks with their autonomous regions so despite the nazis we can say the majority of Ukrainians wanted peace and for their newly elected leader to talk to Russia and come to some sort of agreement.

    Instead the north and west nazi ukrainians seem to have taken positions of power over most of the Ukraine and imposed their will... well that is fine... Russia just needs to do the same in return... kill those that fight you, and put people in power who are friendly to Russia and let them root out nazis and pro west scum...

    Introduce new laws... no foreign ownership of land, no dual citizenship allowed... fun stuff like that.

    Launch of r-37M. They blured the range scale this time.

    They have mentioned Orc aircraft being shot down from over 200km range... so that is probably the ballpark range... from a high speed high altitude launch from a MiG-31 its range is about 380km

    Germans widthrawing from Rzhev was considered by al possible logic to be a defeat due to being beaten back or preveted from successfully defending on other fronts, not a "successful regrouping".

    Yeah, and how did that conflict end for Germany?

    After kherson fell, any russian advance west of the dniepr is dubious for the time being.

    Except with 300K fresh troops they probably have double the number of troops they started this conflict with, whereas the Ukrainians have lost most of their armour and all of their air power and their navy... and winter is here.

    Russian artillery seems to be more effective now as there are much more footage of krasnopol and observed artillery fires.

    Critical word there is seems... with video it seems to be more effective... have they only started using artillery now that they are releasing video footage?

    Bit of a Western TV whore aren't we?

    Regardless how war in Ukraine turns out, heavy times are ahead of Russia. Things are never going to be the same

    This conflict forced the west to remove the mask it likes to wear.... it pretends to be tolerant and good, yet it clearly is not... Russia building good relations with the west would lead them to head down the wrong rabbit hole and end up no better than the west.

    The US is a snake oil salesman who does not care if his product kills his customer as long as the customers children keep buying his product.

    Russia does not need the west and that is why the west hates them so much... the US had the great fear that if Russia and the EU become buddies... what would the EU need the US for? So setting the EU against Russia was just a natural solution to both problems to make them irrelevant. In the far east China is becoming a problem too and their solution is to push India to fight China along with Australia and Japan and South Korea... they don't care who gets damaged, this is about their own position on top.

    Russia can do to the Ukraine what the Ukraine did to the Ukraine... ban the pro west parties (like Kiev banned the pro Russian parties) and then put stooges in power... the difference is that under Russia rule roads and rail lines will be fixed and bridges and buildings will be built... lots of new WWII monuments will be built in every city square... anyone wants to vandalise them can expect a lead based enima injection to the back of the head.

    I posted vladlen's criticism a few days ago, and garryB and others immediately called him a prowestern whining troll.

    A whiny bitch who does not understand media relations... telling your enemy your problems and weaknesses is helping your enemy... especially when pissy little fangirls have tantrums over it because obviously the sky is falling because Russia is of course perfect.

    but of course, GarryB and the others are fanboys, attack anything that doesn't conform to their view and mindset is a western troll.

    No, we attack obvious western propaganda for what it is...

    I wouldn't even call them patriots, a patriot loves his country but will not tolerate BS excuses from their leadership and demand things be done right, boot licking fanboys however will believe whatever they are told to believe and attack anyone who posts anything negative or says something negative.

    So zero patriots in the west... all boot licking partizan pussies who would rather vote down a good bill to prevent the other side taking credit for doing some good for the country than see fellow countrymen get the help they need and deserve.

    Hilarious... a healthcare system for everyone is communism and is of course bad because some people might abuse the system... because no one abuses the healthcare system they already have right now and for most Americans there is no healthcare system... just the ongoing threat of a debt spiral that will kill them.

    No, its based on mutual needs. Russia is the spine of Eurasia and China requires a friendly Russa at her back to give her the strategic defense in depth on the World Island that she otherwise lacks.

    The west does not understand the relationship between Russia and China because Russia does not blindly support China over its island building and China does not support Russia in the Crimea. Equally how can democratic Russia support communist China or communist China support democratic Russia... imagine countries not trying to impose their own culture and ideology on the countries they call friends?


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    Post  nomadski Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:01 am

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xTVMGyJ8cZU


    Germans not supplying SAM patriot ? Must be all those cold showers , improving cognitive ability ! May have same effect on Ukrs civilians to denazify .  LOL


    The Russian , French and Iranian revolutions happened in winter........



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    Post  Airbornewolf Today at 3:47 am
    Surrender is not an option.
    They will torture you on cam for all they can to just kill you in the end.


    There is a footage emerged yesterday with a wounded Russian soldier described as Wagner team.
    He has obviously lost hope for being evacuated, and seems seriously wounded. Ukr drone was hanging above him.
    The guy tried to kill himself, but couldn't. He either run out of ammo or was too weak to aim the AK at his heart. Finally he just pointed at the drone. They have dropped an IED on him at the end, but he seems to be dead already anyway. Died as a warrior.
    This war is hell. A real hell because of its civil character we can see in multiple aspects. Civil wars are the cruelest ones, and I find no reason behind that. Both sides report materials of targeting medevac units, field hospitals or wounded locations.
    Uncle Sam approves this slaughter. Asks for more. 😢on

    But even in hell, some funny things can happen.
    The POW from the artillery battalion I was talking about, told a story.
    They have been located in some forest or something, without any proper orders, only directed to "dig in". Some other unit was there, on the other side of a woodlet. They have spent two days like that, hanging around and yapping at each other. Finally, he decided to walk to them and ask about the situation, maybe they have some orders or something.
    So he took a comrade with him, walked to the guys, and asked: hey lads, what's going on, what are you doing here?!
    They asked  back : just sitting and waiting. What unit are you from?
    Well, this and that art battalion.
    And what do you have there? What kind of patches are that?
    Our patches! Ukrainian!
    Oh, Ukrainian? OK ... So just give us the rifle ... and your buddy too ... The war is over for you ...
    They were sitting for two days, separated by 20m, chaffing each other, and none of them realized that they chat with the opponent.

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    Post  Isos Fri Nov 25, 2022 10:16 am

    Germany gives patriots to poland.
    Poland says give it to Ukraine.
    Germany NOOO YOU CANT DO THAT, ONLY NATO MEMBERS.
    Poland already had Patriots close to ukraine and I recall they have the good shit with GaN AESA radars.

    Germans are right.

    Ukrainians aren't trained on Patriot. You need few years of training to operate such systems.

    German or US crews would refuse to operate them since it means having kh-31 and kh-15 flying towards them and dying.

    Polish are drama queens. They try to act like a leader but only barcks. They are in a pseudo diplomatic conflict with Germany asking for trillions of dollars for WW2 reperations and other stuff when Germany is snobbing them. Poland isn't in the same league as Germany frankly. Their economy is a dwarf and the salaries there are 10 times lower.

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