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    Russian Electronics: Semiconductor and Processors #2

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    Post  Kiko Fri Aug 09, 2024 6:40 pm

    Scientist names dates for testing photonic processor in Russia, 08.09.2024.

    An experimental photonic processor will be assembled in Russia by the end of the year.

    An experimental model of a photonic processor will be assembled in Russia, which will be able to process information hundreds of times faster than modern digital neural networks. This was reported to RIA Novosti by a project participant, professor of the Department of Technical Cybernetics at the Korolev Samara University and Doctor of Physical and Mathematical Sciences Roman Skidanov.

    "The creation of an experimental sample of the photonic processor is currently in the stage of case assembly," the professor said. According to him, all the elements for the assembly, which will begin in August, are already ready, and by the end of 2024, the tests are planned to be completed.

    A sample of the processor was created by specialists from the Korolev Samara University as part of a scientific program supported by Rosatom. The peculiarity of this processor is that information is transmitted in it not by electrons, as usual, but by photons (particles of light).

    This sample will be part of a Mega Science class photonic computing machine, which is planned to be created by 2030. According to the project, the machine's performance will be record-breaking and will reach 10²¹ operations per second.

    The installation will allow solving applied problems in processing large data arrays and obtaining fundamental results in the field of artificial intelligence and machine learning.

    https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/66b615749a79472cd0cb3a87

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    Post  kvs Fri Aug 09, 2024 8:09 pm

    God what a POS article. Throwing in the hysteria over "AI" as if it has any relevance to photonics. The question this f*ckwad reporter should have asked are if this
    was a real photonic processor which includes photonic transistors allowing logic gates.

    https://ssau.ru/english/news/22660-scientists-of-the-national-center-for-physics-and-mathematics-have-created-a-sample-of-analog-photonic-processor-with-its-performance-close-to-the-world-record

    Does not look like a general purpose photonic processor. More like a custom part for a very narrow functionality.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Aug 18, 2024 10:23 pm

    Not really Russia but this seems the best place to post this. Similar to the sanctions on Russia, when the US started the chip war with China I doubt it expected this result.

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    Post  kvs Mon Aug 19, 2024 12:18 am

    Sanctions work on banana republics and not on engineering and science super-powers. For obvious reasons.

    Russia is getting exactly the sort of external pressure it needs to sort out its domestic semiconductor industry. It needs to avoid making China into a replacement
    for the west.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Aug 19, 2024 5:06 am

    Russia is getting exactly the sort of external pressure it needs to sort out its domestic semiconductor industry. It needs to avoid making China into a replacement
    for the west.

    Something the Europeans should take note of... afterall at US insistence the EU is blocking Russian gas supplies because being potentially under the thumb of Russia would be a risk... but they didn't really think things through properly because now they are at the whim of the market and still have to buy Russian gas but they pay rather more for it because they buy from third party customers. They are still dependent on Russian gas because that is where the gas comes from... they just get to pretend they are not dependent on Russian gas and they get to pay more.

    With the chips the biggest market is China but Russia also uses a lot of chips so blocking their access to western produced chips is eliminating two significant customers... in the case of China a massive customer... and they are only going to end up making their own and they can probably make them cheaper and better than the west can because it will be new investments using new technologies, so they are essentially creating competition for themselves while at the same time removing two major customers off their order books.

    Classy.

    In 100 years historians will look back and not understand how the west can be so stupid in their hatred for Russia and China... and how much it cost them globally... they were sitting pretty and comfortable and they are blowing it.

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    Post  kvs Mon Aug 19, 2024 1:48 pm

    It's the old story of power corrupting. Corruption includes hubris and degradation of ability. The elites do not have an incentive to perform, but they have no limits on their
    avarice.

    Western elites are engaged in zero sum thinking when the global economy is not constrained this way. So they automatically lose.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Aug 20, 2024 12:47 am

    It is also not an insignificant factor that the people they are up against... Putin and Xi are not idiots either and are clearly doing their jobs rather well which emphasises how wrong they are in the west.

    Just look at media question time and some journalist asks HATO and EU politicians about who is going to win the US elections before the hillary trump election and they all opened their big mouths and said of course hillary is going to win... her experience and because she is a woman etc etc, so of course when Trump won he wasn't very nice to them and talked about ending HATO unless they started paying more for it...

    When reporters asked Putin he said he didn't want to influence the vote by giving his opinion and that the decision was for the American voters and that he was prepared to work with whoever they chose to elect.

    There was a time when that was normal, but now it is unusual.

    It is funny.... through the years there are politicians in your own country that are thought of as rule breakers and radicals and you look at their old interviews now and realise how tame and boring everything actually was.

    When there was a left wing... in the US the democrats and republicans are both right wing. Both are fully pro war...

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