I still hope and pray that the retreat is a trap...french officially say it's a trap...ukrainians say it's a trap...maybe it's a trap?!
Maybe making the enemy think it is a trap is the trap, so when they don't fall for the trap and do not attack then they fall for the trap and hold their positions till Russia is ready to move when the ground gets hard.
They explained their logic and it makes sense... whether you like it or not.
It should be clear to anyone with a brain cell that the superior side needs no trap and certainly no retreat. Kherson was already meat grinder enough for Ukraine with the current front line.
Except they have used retreats, or manouvers to entice the enemy to overstretch and expose itself to attack multiple times successfully during this conflict... why stop now.
Even withdrawing troops does not mean they wont attack any moves by the orcs to move forward.
I'm a bit hasty...we'll see what happens! Maybe I'm wrong? But as I have already written, from a military point of view, retreat was not necessary...
You are hasty... whether it is a trap or not, and whether the orcs believe it is a trap or not, their withdrawal has probably assured that the dams wont be destroyed to cause flooding of territory they thing they could retake.... perhaps that was their main concern... to avoid that.
What speaks against a trap is the simple fact that there is no real fighting in Kherson.
Why does that speak against a trap? Normal military science suggests you attack where the line is quietest and the enemy forces are least prepared and at their least supported and if they blow those dams any troops there would be isolated and vulnerable with no route to escape from easily other than swimming... if the Russians moved a large force there it would make obvious military sense to try to cut them off and then attack them with everything you have, but removing the forces means taking the area will not be easy because of mobility issues and enemy air control and enemy artillery resources in the area, which would not be aided by flooding the area.
Looks like a dirty deal at the expense of the local population.
**** off with your bullshit inuendo lies... Russia is in a very good position and has no reason to negotiate anything away to anyone... there is no reason to end this conflict now or any time this year... they have the orcs pinned to the table there can be no agreements with these
... they are not trustworthy and the vatican is an extension of the west which has declared a jihad against Russia and Russians so any agreement with them is worthless... the talk from europe about a cold winter and loss of jobs... boo hoo... this is the shit your governments were trying to inflict on Russians by using sanctions and political and social and economic isolation... the poisoner is drinking from the poisoned wine glass... let them enjoy that painful death.
You should apply for a job in Putin's inner circle. You have the critical thinking skills of an acorn squash.
If your critical skills amount to repeating US State Department official news release notes with add ons from Kiev and CNN then I don't much care for critical thinking because your view of critical thinking equates to trolling and flame baiting... which is kinda sad that they fool you like that.
Ironically, captured Russian T-72B3 is towing abandoned Russian T-90.
Not ironic... an indication of the wonderful upgraded Eastern European super tanks they have been getting from HATO... surprised no clown has popped up to tell us how HATO ex Soviet tanks upgraded with new reverse gears and super thermals and optics are the best soviet tanks available anywhere...
May it not be true
Duh... Donbass and Lugansk are Russian territory now... withdraw Russian troops from Russian territory?
Withdraw from Kaliningrad and Kuriles as well?
Better hope it isn't thats because that deal is a big fat L for the russians.
It is not the Russians suggesting it...
Putin sees no future with the west moving forward so there is no value in giving them terms to allow them to save face...
They have always been two faced anyway.
Why would Russia want to take a deal in the first place. Don't get it, really don't.
If they were taking the deal then they would announce that deal as reasons for doing what they are doing... why keep it secret?
Alright you made a lot of false claims, fact is Ukraine still has many many of age men to fight
Untrained and without winter gear...
and NATO stockpiles are just fine and no western armor is failing that even depends what you mean by armor because Ukraine doesn't have western tanks.
Their APCs and IFVs don't really seem to stack up to much... how reliable will they be in winter?
I am not saying it will be a walk in the park, but the situation today is massively different compared to months ago and Russia should be able to relatively easy move forward, especially in an area pretty much adjacent to Russian territory which should give no problems at all in terms of logistics, and air superiority should be - referring to the massive destruction of air defenses - a given.
Russia can move forward through gaps and encircle large groups of Orc soldiers and trap them... they don't need to dig them out of their holes.
You can't just brush aside millennia! Yes, it's true that Russia also has asian roots, not to mention the geography...but the european influence is too big.
You mean in the 30 odd years that Ukraine was turned against their neighbour/brother Russians... how did that happen?
The west has been rejecting Russia and Russians for CENTURIES... even here in New Zealand we have a large artillery gun in our harbour... not to defend against the Japs or the French... it was built to stop the Russians... in 1889.
Russia has always sought recognition, influence and admiration in the European family and this will not go away overnight. The Russian elites are too western, they will certainly have difficulty accepting a loss of quality of life.
Why. French and German over priced shit is just shit... no reason why Russians can't make high quality stuff too.
When they get all their properties and businesses confiscated from them to pay for damage to Kiev I am sure they will be very happy to help their nazi brothers...
Perhaps new anti monopoly laws that prevent anyone owning more than say 10 million in assets of anything.
Spread the wealth...
Putin's ideas and thoughts are good and he is a great man, but the population is not ready for a war in Ukraine.
Sounds like the ideal way to split with the west... Putin could never convince the rich scum to give up holidays to the west or putting their kids to western schools... it takes western sanctions to do that... so in that sense the war is necessary from Russias perspective... even although the only reason it happened was to try to break up Russia and getting Putin overthrown.
It's a hybrid war by NATO against Russia and most people are too dumb to get it. Most Russians will be happy again to buy IPhones, visit Starbucks and vacation in the EU...the rich will be cruising around in their luxury yachts and so on...Unfortunately, that is the sad truth!
But the west thinks it is a win win... if they succeed and break Russia then they get the spoils of the collapse and destruction of that wealthy country... if Russia wins then they only lose a poor broken eastern european country mostly populated with what they would call Russians anyway... when the smoke settles they can go back to selling Russia their shit and buying cheap energy in return... get Russia to pay to fix the pipelines and everything will be fine...
Except it wont... the west wont have anything to do with the final peace treaty, they sabotaged both Minsk agreements and attempts at a peace deal early in the war were cancelled by the west... you talk to the US to find out what Kiev is thinking and what it will do but you can't trust either to honour any agreement or deal... just look at the food corridor agreement...
As both the HATO and Kiev officials said, this conflict will be decided on the battlefield... when the orc collapse starts it will likely be quick...