pavi wrote:flamming_python wrote:Arkanghelsk wrote:flamming_python wrote:
Changing allegiances in the self-afflicted panic are we archy?
Don't forget to change your avatar to the blue & yellow
This whole charade has been a debaucle of epic proportions
I smoked the cope early on, but I'm good off cope - reality is a better stimulant anyway
Na, it's just a case of you being an easily bored passenger.
Go play Pokemon Go or something
Rest of us are in here for the long-haul, Russia is too and I'm sure Surovikin knows what he's doing. He's been given right of way to persecute the war as he sees fit in the same way General Grant was in the US Civil War, so leave the man to it and quit dooming.
I agree that Surovkin made right decision when whitdrawn from Kherson. What I disagree is that turning the tide of the war requires much firmer actions what we have seen in last 4 months. Pussyfooting must end or Ukraine raise the flag in Sevastopol.They donät negotiate, they don't surrender. They will fight, because uncle schmuel (+europe) will give that chance. Western border of the Ukraine must be occupied and that requires around 500k to million soldier. You can't ignore threat from the west if you are doing it.
No-one's ignoring anything
But my thinking is that if this new advance on Kiev to knock the Ukraine's leadership and co-ordination ability out of the war doesn't happen, then Surovikin's priority would seem to be depriving the Ukraine of the ability to further wage war - economically, strategically, psychologically - before moving to take over territory. I say that because his first actions were to cut power everywhere and thus degrade the Ukrainian ability to redeploy troops and supplies among other things.
He himself has also stated that his priority is to grind Ukrainian forces down. So a steady rate of attrition against them, rather than risking his own troops in any risky maneuvers.
The unknown factor of NATO entering the conflict would also have to be calculated.
That's why I don't see any tide turning against Russia or anything else.
By and large, Russia has thus far decided how the conflict evolves, and where the fighting is going to be and where it isn't.
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