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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:24 am

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    Since the morning there has been a powerful battle south of Artemovsk in the Opytny region. Local residents of intense aviation work, both army and assault⚡⚡⚡

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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:32 am

    01.11.2022
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    Planned large deliveries of weapons by Italy to Ukraine

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    155-mm / 39 self-propelled howitzers M109L transported, possibly in preparation for transfer to Ukraine, from the storage of the Italian armed forces. The installations retain the characteristic emblems of the 52nd self-propelled field artillery regiment "Torino" of the Italian army with the Ukrainian trident. October 2022 (c) Ciro Nappi @CiroNappi6



    As the Italian newspaper "La Reppublica" reported in the article "Cannoni e mezzi hi tech, ecco le armi date dall'Italia per l'offensiva ucraina" ("Guns and high-tech equipment - that's what weapons Italy provided for the Ukrainian offensive"), before its Withdrawal due to defeat in the elections, the former government of Italy, headed by Mario Draghi, approved the transfer to Ukraine from the presence or storage of the armed forces of Italy of a significant amount of weapons and military equipment.

    According to the publication, two modernized combat vehicles of the M270 MLRS multiple launch rocket system (out of 18, according to other sources, 22, available in the Italian army) and six 155-mm / 52 self-propelled howitzers PzH 2000 licensed Italian-made German sample (out of 68 available in the Italian army), and "from 20 to 30" self-propelled 155-mm / 39 M109L howitzers and "several dozen" M113 tracked armored personnel carriers are transferred from the storage of the Italian army to Ukraine. The exact list of transferred equipment, as usual in Italian practice, is classified.

    The Italian army was armed with 22 (according to a number of reports, their number was reduced to 18) MLRS MLRS, which were modernized under the leadership of the German company Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW) according to the variant designated in Italy as MLRS-I and similar to the German MARS- II and the French LRU, with the ability to use GMLRS and ATACMS guided missiles. Now two of these MLRS-I combat vehicles are to be transferred to Ukraine. Earlier, Ukraine has already received six upgraded MLRS MLRS (three British M270B1 variants and three German MARS-II variants) and eight more should be received in the near future (three British M270B1 variants, three French LRUs and two German MARS-II), now they will be added two more Italian.

    68 PzH 2000 self-propelled howitzers of 155 mm/52 caliber were produced for the Italian army under a German license by the IVECO-Oto Melara (CIO) consortium in 2004-2008. It is reported that 14 of these systems are in reserve and six of them "in the near future" will be transferred to Ukraine. Earlier, Ukraine has already received 18 PzH 2000 self-propelled guns (10 from the presence of the German armed forces and eight from the storage of the armed forces of the Netherlands) and is waiting to receive four more from the presence of Germany.

    As for the M109L self-propelled howitzers, they are modernized in 1986-1992 in the amount of 283 units by Oto Melara (now part of Leonardo), the American self-propelled guns M109 and M09A1, which were in service with the Italian army, which were equipped with new ones manufactured by Oto Melara during the modernization 155 mm/39 oscillating parts with FH-70 towed howitzer ballistics. In 2011, all M109L self-propelled guns were finally decommissioned by the Italian army and transferred to storage, from where ten units were subsequently transferred as assistance to the Djibouti army, and 128 units (according to other sources, 96) were sold to Pakistan in 2017-2018. It was reported that about 120 M109L self-propelled guns remained in storage in Italy.It is worth noting that some time ago, Leonardo developed an upgrade option for the M109L self-propelled guns with a new oscillating part of the 155-mm / 52 caliber.

    Apparently, the preparatory work for the reactivation of the M109L self-propelled guns intended for transfer to Ukraine has already begun, since in mid-October several M109Ls were filmed in Italy transported on trailers along the highway in an unknown direction. By irony (or maybe the conscious choice of the selectors), these systems carried on the sides Ukrainian symbols of yellow-blue color with a trident, which is a traditional part of the emblem of the 52nd self-propelled field artillery regiment "Torino" of the Italian army, which was previously in service.
    In total, 35 units of the Italian army (including 19 artillery regiments and groups) after 1945 had Ukrainian symbols with tridents in their emblems as an integral part in memory of the participation of these units in hostilities as part of Italian troops on the territory of the USSR (referred to as the "territory Ukraine").

    It is reported that this package of military assistance to Ukraine was the fifth approved by the Italian government since the start of the Russian special military operation in Ukraine in February.
    In previous packages, Italy transferred to Ukraine a number of FH-70 155mm/39 towed howitzers, Mod 63 120mm mortars, Iveco LMV (Lince) light armored vehicles, MILAN ATGMs, Panzerfaust 3, 12.7 and 7 hand-held anti-tank grenade launchers, 62mm machine guns, small arms, ammunition and other property.
    Now, as the same publication "La Reppublica" reported in another article "Armi all'Ucraina, ora tocca a Meloni. Ma sui nuovi aiuti a Kiev crepe nella maggioranza" ("Weapons for Ukraine, now it's up to Meloni. But on the issue of new aid to Kiev, cracks appeared in the government majority"), the new Italian government of Prime Minister Giorgi Meloni is preparing a new, already the sixth package of military assistance to Ukraine, approval is scheduled for mid-November. As a preliminary, this package is planned to include the transfer to Ukraine of one of the latest SAMP / T medium and long-range anti-aircraft missile systems (together with France) and at least three old short-range Spada 2000 (Aspide) anti-aircraft missile systems planned for decommissioning.

    The adoption of this package is considered politically important for the new Italian government to "try to alleviate the fears of the allies about the pro-Russian sympathies" of Silvio Berlusconi and Matteo Salvini participating in the new Italian government coalition. On the other hand, in order to appease the aforementioned "pro-Russian sympathizers", it was decided to include precisely "defensive" air defense systems in this package, "so that Ukrainians can defend themselves, and not attack Russian territory."
    Regarding the transfer of one battery (complex) of the SAMP / T air defense system, it is reported that Italy will provide only radar facilities for it, and France will provide launchers with Aster missiles. If this measure is implemented, Ukraine will become the second foreign recipient of the SAMP / T air defense system after Singapore.

    As for the Spada 2000 air defense system, now the Italian Air Force has seven air defense systems (batteries) of this type, including one training one, for the defense of airfields. The complexes were purchased in 1983-1991 in the original Spada version and were upgraded to the Spada 2000 level in the late 1990s.
    In the near future, it is planned to remove these air defense systems from the Italian Air Force and replace them with new medium-range air defense systems MBDA MAADS with CAMM-ER anti-aircraft missiles (so far it is planned to purchase three systems). As previously reported, Spain plans to transfer one more (or both of its) Spada 2000 complexes to Ukraine, and, according to some reports, training of Ukrainian personnel for the Spada 2000 transferred by Italy can also be organized in Spain.

    https://vpk.name/news/648367_planiruemye_krupnye_postavki_italiei_vooruzheniya_ukraine.html


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    Post  billybatts91 Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:32 am

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    The NATzO Pigs are testing Russia's patience, most likely another cowardly attack on Russia's navy is in the process of being carried out. Time to wipe out all of Odessa's port infrastructure and power base. Destroy everything that stands in Pukraine's remaining coastlines.  attack

    One of the many reasons Russia needs to take Odessa. Ukraine can stage all kinds of attacks from there. That needs to be put to a stop soon.
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    Post  Ispan Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:43 am


    Too busy, tired to write and the materials pile keeps growing up, fortunately a reader comes to the rescue, his report is so good I published it

    Turning point

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/11/01/punto-de-inflexion/

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    Post  Mir Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:45 am

    Podlodka77 wrote:01.11.2022
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    Planned large deliveries of weapons by Italy to Ukraine

    Wouldn't it be less schlep to just do a technology transfer to Russia dunno

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    Post  The-thing-next-door Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:48 am

    Mir wrote:

    Wouldn't it be less schlep to just do a technology transfer to Russia dunno

    The question is what would Russia gain from analysing such inferior weapons?

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    Post  Mir Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:56 am

    The-thing-next-door wrote:
    The question is what would Russia gain from analysing such inferior weapons?

    Some of the trolls here believe anything made in NATO is a wunderwaffen - even if it dates from the 60's.

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    Post  franco Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:05 am

    Forward, to the line of fire: how Russian tanks squeeze the enemy out of the DPR

    Russian units are advancing on the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the South-Donetsk direction. Artillery and tanks are working en masse - the enemy does not raise his head on the oporniks. Correspondent Vladislav Kustov felt the atmosphere of the advanced.

    While the regimental commander is presenting awards, combat work is going on very close, shooting is heard. Some of the awarded fighters of the 150th division only left the tank.

       “Arrived from the exit. All in mud. Well washed off. Say hello to my wife and mother. Definitely mom. They will wait, and victory will be ours!” - the serviceman of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation with the call sign Chicago is sure.

    Taking a seat is a matter of minutes. The combat vehicle rushes into the line of fire. Any target for a tank is tough. Yes, and he can shoot both direct fire and a canopy.

       “Reconnaissance discovered a concentration of enemy infantry. We arrived, worked quickly and left just as quickly so that they would not spot us, ”said a serviceman of the RF Armed Forces with the call sign Irkutsk.

    We cannot name the direction in which the tankers of the 150th division are working, for security reasons, but now everyone has a common thing here - the fighters continue to squeeze the enemy out of the Donetsk People's Republic.

    There are advances in the direction of Pervomaisky, the Russian military is taking the fortified area in Krasnogorovka and Marinka. Avdiivka - the main support for the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the direction - is bypassed from different sides.

       “The APU is not enough here. Mostly visitors from foreign countries,” said a serviceman of the RF Armed Forces with the call sign Vokha.

    On the line of fire, you need to carefully look under your feet - not only because of the Petal mines, which can now be hidden under the foliage, but also because of the terrible mud. The rainy season has turned the roads into a skating rink. The tank moves out quickly, fires a few shots and just as quickly leaves, because the enemy is not far away. After returning, intelligence reports that the tank broke several dugouts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with machine gun crews. This means that our infantry will soon go forward.

    https://tvzvezda-ru.translate.goog/news/20221111049-eOr8q.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB&_x_tr_pto=nui

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    Post  franco Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:26 am

    US Delta command and control was hacked

    The Joker hacked into the much-vaunted American Delta command and control program, which is actively used by the AFU. To make it clear, this is a program in which all data on friendly and enemy troops is entered for command and control

    https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1587357221125586945

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    Post  nomadski Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:44 am


    So , I am starting to think that the attack on airfield in Crimea was also done by manned operatives , instead of missiles . Since this latest attack on Helicopter base is done by operatives , some 800 km , inside Russia ? The solution is to allow personnel already stationed there to form security core to watch for saboteurs , day and night , but particularly night time using scopes . A shift system can be brought in . Regarding destroying port facility in Odessa , I think it is not good idea . Since Russia can use them to do trade in future by Russian population . Or use port for marine landing . Best target ships at sea by inspection and also demand Royalties as compensation for cost of war . Why are Bridges on Dnieper still standing ? Allowing a meat-grinder to invite meat to grind by " superior " fire power , assumes the existence of such machine . Not one that retreats under fire , and can not grind the said meat . Oh , I see , it is to allow new Italian Tanks to deploy after crossing Bridge ? Russia has no chance of going that far West , nor is it a good idea . So destroy those Bridges already !

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    Post  Sujoy Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:58 am

    Igor Morozov, a member of the defence committee of the Federation Council of Russia, alleged that Pakistan and Ukraine discussed technologies for creating nuclear weapons.
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    Post  Mir Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:19 pm

    nomadski wrote:
    So , I am starting to think that the attack on airfield in Crimea was also done by manned operatives , instead of missiles .

    Again - all the trolls screamed "super wunderwaffe!" that did not exist. It was clear from day one it was either saboteurs or an accident.
    Can't believe you're only "starting to think" it was not a missile attack. Smile
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    Post  Mir Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:20 pm

    Sujoy wrote:Igor Morozov, a member of the defence committee of the Federation Council of Russia, alleged that Pakistan and Ukraine discussed technologies for creating nuclear weapons.

    I have noticed that you don't really like the Pakistanis, but yes you could be onto something this time. Laughing
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:33 pm

    Liz truss texted Blinken "it's done" 1 hour after nord stream explosion

    Former UK Prime Minister Liz Truss allegedly sent a text message saying ‘it’s done’ to the US Secretary of State Antony Blinken immediately after the Nord Stream attack, according to an online commentator.

    It should be recalled Russia’s defense ministry claimed on October 29 that British navy personnel blew up the Nord Stream gas pipelines last month, a claim that London said was false and designed to distract from Russian military failures in Ukraine.


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    Post  ALAMO Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:11 pm

    Mir wrote:
    I have noticed that you don't really like the Pakistanis, but yes you could be onto something this time. Laughing

    It is bogus.
    If we consider any technology transfer, then it was made for decades but in the opposite direction.
    Ukraine is responsible for a leap jump of several arguable states in their military technologies.
    That includes North Korea and Pakistan, both gained missile technology and advisory from the Ukrainians.
    Ukraine is much more advanced in any given nuclear technology than Pakistan or India, or North Korea might be, even if they ceased to produce the weapon 3 decades ago.
    Any Ukrainian scrapyard pretending to be open space missile technology museum would kick the missiles technologies of the Paks, India or NK a decade ahead, as none of them possess the mid-80s Soviet technologies even 40 years after.
    Ukraine could have constructed nuclear weapon at any moment in the last 3 decades either, they had technical potential, stocks of used uranium that could have been enriched etc. Russian fears are not taken out of thin air.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:14 pm

    franco wrote:US Delta command and control was hacked

    The Joker hacked into the much-vaunted American Delta command and control program, which is actively used by the AFU. To make it clear, this is a program in which all data on friendly and enemy troops is entered for command and control

    https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1587357221125586945

    I was a bit hesitant at first.
    I saw the footage, only thing is there was an Tech-demo of Delta system at an NATO convention a few days ago.
    I just missed too much icons and information for the map to feel it to be actual.

    https://mezha.media/en/2022/10/28/the-unique-ukrainian-situational-awareness-system-delta-was-presented-at-the-annual-nato-event/

    How absolutely dumb do you have to be to post an article containing the names of the Dev team?. Razz

    Anyway, after a short look i found some additional footage on bitchute.
    This convinced me personally, that is how these BMS maps are supposed to look.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/l20QsrlGqE1z/

    Note also the NATO acronyms.
    Slaves to their NATO overlords who are directing their minions to slaughter....

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    Post  Mir Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:18 pm

    Very good point actually Smile

    Just find it amusing how Sujoy seems to be a little obsessed with Pakistan Laughing

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    Post  Hole Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:34 pm

    Nice comment:


    Larchmonter445 on October 31, 2022  ·  at 2:25 pm EST/EDT
    Though nearly every war is fought for economic reasons, such a war to change the world dynamic of inflation, supply chain bottlenecks and Chinese dominance does not have a ‘gain’ for the West in pure economic need.
    The Euro Zone nations need energy. The US needs vital strategic minerals for high tech products. The common source is Russia. Additionally, Russia has the world’s largest supply of fresh water and produces wheat and grains at prodigious rates.
    So, targeting Russia to capture from her all these natural resources makes sense.
    What doesn’t make sense is the war needed to do so. Russia will use nuclear weapons if attacked. End of war.
    Trying to configure a conventional land war against Russia is impossible due to the need for attackers to gain air supremacy and dominance. The Russian air defense systems prevent that possibility. End of war.
    Trying to expand the Ukie war, well, we see how timid (rightfully so) Brussels Alliance is. They send Poles and Liths and other mercs, but won’t send their own uniformed troops. They know Russia will destroy the illusion of NATO dominance. End of war.
    The US flirts with suggestions and feints of sending its military against Russia, but everyone knows the US will lose ungodly numbers of land troops and naval forces if it directly attacks Russia. End of war.
    So, where is the war the EU and US need? It gains nothing to ignite the ME or SE or NE Asia. Don’t forget what they are in dire need of. Natural Resources to be stolen (won?) in war with Russia.
    But Russia will destroy both EU and US if they launch such a war.
    So, the only war possible is the war they have now, the SMO in Ukraine, which will devour Ukraine and is weakening the NATO nations which weakens the US. This is the war they wanted, the war they designed and the war that will be hung around their defeated necks.
    If they think they can keep this war going until Russia loses, they will learn otherwise.
    Russia is just now beginning the start of the serious kinetic war. The West is snared in their own trap.
    The US and EU have NATO to sacrifice as the signatory to surrender. Ukraine and Zelensky will be long gone when Shoigu’s Guards Tank Armies and Airborne stop rolling and Guards Air Defense stop their missile attacks and defenses.
    Putin is gathering the Russian lands to Mother. The West came for Mother’s riches and got a war the West cannot win.

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    Post  Mir Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:40 pm

    The only way they can beat Russia is to poke from within. They came perilously close in the 90's. Then Putin happened.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Tue Nov 01, 2022 2:49 pm

    Mir wrote:The only way they can beat Russia is to poke from within. They came perilously close in the 90's. Then Putin happened.

    And that is why the US and its EU puppets hate Putin. The plan in the 90s was to do to Russia what they are trying in Ukraine. What is that plan? Export Russia's women as whores, export Russia's men as slave, brain drain Russia's youth, cripple the Russian army, give oligarchs the power so that in the name of greed they'd sell Russia to the highest bidder, addict the Russian people to drugs, alcohol, and porn, and make them too subservient and distracted to know until Russia was little more than a colony whose raw materials would be exported to fulfill the needs of the Atlanticist empire.

    Oh it was evil. Its why Time Magazine and US politicians praised the state dept for meddling in elections that got Boris the Drunk in power. He was in on the take and too powerless to stop the fire sale even if he wanted to.

    Then in 1999 came the man who saved Russia. Putin was hated from day one in the west because he undid one American project after another. He stood up to the oligarchs, he ensured the army and navy would no longer have to hunt for food and would get paid, he put paid to the Islamic extremists in the caucasus, he restored Orthodoxy, and he made Russia stand tall and challenged the neocons who wanted to destroy his country. I have lots of respect and love for Vladimir Vladimirovich.

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    Post  Mir Tue Nov 01, 2022 3:01 pm

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    And that is why the US and its EU puppets hate Putin.  The plan in the 90s was to do to Russia what they are trying in Ukraine.  What is that plan? Export Russia's women as whores, export Russia's men as slave, brain drain Russia's youth, cripple the Russian army, give oligarchs the power so that in the name of greed they'd sell Russia to the highest bidder, addict the Russian people to drugs, alcohol, and porn, and make them too subservient and distracted to know until Russia was little more than a colony whose raw materials would be exported to fulfill the needs of the Atlanticist empire.

    Oh it was evil.  Its why Time Magazine and US politicians praised the state dept for meddling in elections that got Boris the Drunk in power.  He was in on the take and too powerless to stop the fire sale even if he wanted to.  

    Then in 1999 came the man who saved Russia.  Putin was hated from day one in the west because he undid one American project after another.  He stood up to the oligarchs, he ensured the army and navy would no longer have to hunt for food and would get paid, he put paid to the Islamic extremists in the caucasus, he restored Orthodoxy, and he made Russia stand tall and challenged the neocons who wanted to destroy his country.  I have lots of respect and love for Vladimir Vladimirovich.

    Putin made one fatal mistake though - he trusted the west's so-called "War on Terror" allowing US/Natzo bases in former Soviet territories.
    He referred to the west as "partners" and I can understand why. He truly believed that these fuckers would allow a multi-polar world with free and fair trade between nations, but now we know better.

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    Post  lancelot Tue Nov 01, 2022 3:04 pm

    Mir wrote:Putin made one fatal mistake though - he trusted the west's so-called "War on Terror" allowing US/Natzo bases in former Soviet territories.
    He referred to the west as "partners" and I can understand why. He truly believed that these fuckers would allow a multi-polar world with free and fair trade between nations, but now we know better.
    The US used that to infiltrate all over Central Asia and we can still see the result of that today.

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    Now they have puzzled me.
    Missile type indicator suggests it is Ch-31PM missile - passive&morednized.
    The target distance is 108+ km
    But the target seems to be airborne, which would suggest they are using antiradiation missiles to strike the aircraft.
    Hm, it is OK, possible, but the Ch-31 was rather considered as capable to hit big planes the Ukrs lack.
    On the other hand, it is fully passive, so the target won't even know what hit him.

    A whole material :

    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/31664

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