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    Post  Mir Wed Oct 26, 2022 2:33 pm

    0nillie0 wrote:If you do feel the need to respond to limb, please edit the quote so those of us who do not want to read his posts don't  get eye cancer from the content. Feel free to be creative with it.

    I see in GunshipDemocracy's post Limb now mentions the Bandkanonne! Laughing Laughing Laughing
    It is an museum piece nowadays and only about 20 were ever built. It has a magazine with 14 rounds in total - so good luck with 18rpm Laughing
    Desperate stuff! What a Face

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    Post  Sujoy Wed Oct 26, 2022 2:35 pm

    U.K now has their first completely illegitimate Prime Minister of Pakistani origin.

    IOW, the same country that defines Putin as a despot and his military intervention in Ukraine illegal.

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:19 pm

    Sujoy wrote:U.K now has their first completely illegitimate Prime Minister of Pakistani origin.

    IOW, the same country that defines Putin as a despot and his military intervention in Ukraine illegal.
    Isn't he of Indian (Punjabi) descent (and also a Hindu)?

    But yeah now England (I do not believe it will remain as Great Britain for long) has both the prime minister and the major of its capital from South Asian descent.

    Globalism in action.

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    Post  wilhelm Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:28 pm

    0nillie0 wrote:If you do feel the need to respond to limb, please edit the quote so those of us who do not want to read his posts don't  get eye cancer from the content. Feel free to be creative with it.
    I was just going to say.
    The next person who quotes limb is going onto my ignore list.
    It's blatantly obvious what limbs role here on the forum is.

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    Post  PhSt Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:34 pm

    ucmvulcan wrote:
    andalusia wrote:Just saw this documentary on American PBS Frontline about the alleged Putin war crimes in the Ukraine War.  This propanganda shouldn't be a surprise.


    Frontline on PBS, which is wholly funded and operated by the United States government.

    Would be nice if RT, Sputnik and all other Russian media launch an in-depth documentary of NATzO (especially American) war crimes in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam and beyond

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    Post  nomadski Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:48 pm

    Rodion wrote " Sujoy wrote: U.K now has their first completely illegitimate Prime Minister of Pakistani origin. IOW, the same country that defines Putin as a despot and his military intervention in Ukraine illegal. Isn't he of Indian (Punjabi) descent (and also a Hindu)? But yeah now England ( I do not believe it will remain as Great Britain for long) has both the prime minister and the major of its capital from South Asian descent. Globalism in action. " I am going out on a " limb" here , when I say that Conservative party having chosen " Englishness " ( Brexit ) over Irishness or Scotishness or Europeanishness ( including Russianess ) , opted to join the "  English "  Ex- Empire dominions of Anglophile and Anglophone countries and dreamt of resurrecting the common wealth and British Raj ! As the dominion of the English shrinks and they are left with only London and the stock exchange and the Eel- eating Cockney population , to call their own , their imaginations grow larger and larger !


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    Post  Sujoy Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:51 pm

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote: Isn't he of Indian (Punjabi) descent (and also a Hindu)?

    But yeah now England (I do not believe it will remain as Great Britain for long) has both the prime minister and the major of its capital from South Asian descent.
    His ancestors are Punjabi Hindu migrants from the Pakistani city of Gujranwala. Majority of Punjabi Hindus living in India are refugees from Pakistan.

    Not being a Muslim, Sunka realizes that he won't receive any support from U.K's Muslim community, so there is no point of flaunting his Pakistani origin.

    OTOH, the Indian community both Christians and Hindus are extremely prosperous. So Sunak advertises himself as an Indian Hindu in order to ensure that the Indian community donates generously to his campaign.

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    Post  Azi Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:07 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:What in your opinion would be the best way to use the mobilized 300k troops? An assault on Kiev or something else?
    They have over 300k mobilized and additional over 70k volunteers only during the mobilization wave. Add this to the existing forces near frontline and add the help of conscripts (they will not take part in offensive operations) to it.

    We speak here about an invasion force of over 500k soldiers ready to go in Ukraine! There are rumors that far more soldiers than the 500k are available because more than 300k have been mobilized.

    I think Kiew is not on the plan, next steps will be Nikolaev, Odessa and Kharkiv...of course after the liberation of the new regions.


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    Post  limb Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:13 pm

    Belisarius wrote:
    msta S with 6 rpm.

    Not protoss shields. Just far superior  range than vast majority of russian artillery,together with actual digital FCS systems instead of shitty scopes, analogue computers and notebooks the russians use for 90% of their guns,

    Another bunch of lies...

    In 2007, the Russians began to receive the 2S19M1 with improved fire control system and added GLONASS antenna.
    In 2013 there was already the 2S19M2 equipped with a new automatic fire control system that increases the rate of fire. Digital electronic maps are now available that significantly speed up terrain orientation in difficult geographic conditions and allow for faster and more efficient shooting missions. In addition to the ability to shoot 10 projectiles per minute and a range of 80 km.
    https://armstrade.org/includes/periodics/news/2020/0603/095058134/detail.shtml

    Yes for Msta, but not for 2S3s and 2S1s which is the majority of the russian artillery in the SMO

    https://t.me/historywarweaponmain/64820
    In this video, akatsiya operators have to constantly adjust a shitty 1960s scope.

    I was just going to say.
    The next person who quotes limb is going onto my ignore list.
    It's blatantly obvious what limbs role here on the forum is.

    It seems like you ignore patriotic russian tg channels of actual russian soldiers on the front, instead just believing everything Konashenkov says.
    Russian artillerymen have been complaining since the start of the SMO that ukrainian artillery and its operators are  excellent and extremely difficult to destroy.

    If you do feel the need to respond to limb, please edit the quote so those of us who do not want to read his posts don't get eye cancer from the content. Feel free to be creative with it.

    Konashenkov's reports are eye cancer. Reading 4 months straight "the russian army is making an assault operation on bakhmut" is eye cancer.

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    Post  Azi Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:22 pm

    limb wrote:
    caveat emptor wrote:Su-35 dropping dumb bombs while flying very low. Endangering sophisticated plane for this, is not the best use imo.
    https://t.me/milinfolive/92470
    This is horrifyingly dumb. This is what I mean by potbelly dinosaur behavior, sending a superexpensive multirole fighter as dumb bomb low altitude bomber like its 1968.

    They couldve at least used a Su-25 or Su-24. If the potbelly dinosaurs want to waste planes like that, they should use the Su-17 or MiG-27. I guess GarryB was wrong that supersonic fighters were considered by the russian air force to be inferior for dropping dumb bombs from low altitude, given that someone ordered this Su-35 pilot to do just that.

    Where is the vaunted SVP-24 to drop iron bombs from range here? They could've at least dropped bombs outside of MANPAD altitude. Gliding bombs aren't even needed much, they couldve just used Kh-25s too.


    If the russians are so afraid to even send Su-35s at high altitude bombing missions, this proves that the Ukrainian AD net is almost entirely intact. If ukrainian SAMs are mostly destroyed by now, why would the potbelly dinosaurs be sending aircraft in the range of MANPADs which ukrainians have in limitless quantities?

    Potbelly dinosaurs: Targeting pods? Who needs those, we went to berlin without targeting pods.
    Gliding bombs? Who needs those, in Zapad 1981 we used FAB-250s, and that was enough.
    Yes and no!

    All long range AD Systems should now be destroyed and Russia should operate from heights above 5 km. But on the other hand Ukraine has 1 IRIS-T SLM and 2 NASAMS systems now in use...not destroyed, fresh delivered. And they have successfully hidden part of their Buk systems and S-300 so far. So, as stupid as it may sound, it's better to attack deep these days! Also manpads have a terrible low hit rate.

    Luckily the power grid is more or less off now and the background of radio waves are now less. Also, the trees are losing leaves and the temperature is dropping, making large AD systems easier to see. By February, Ukraine will not have a single AD system larger than a manpad.

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    Post  crod Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:25 pm

    CyberSpec Tel is reporting that the footage of a downed SU-35, claimed to be shot down with IRIS-T in Kherson is from a downing back in May.
    Hope true and not the bird that filmed flying uber low yesterday. 🤞

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    Post  limb Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:36 pm

    Kadyrov met some POWs. SHouldve sent the ones threatening to kill his family

    https://t.me/ghostnewsx/1710
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    Post  lancelot Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:44 pm

    limb wrote:Yes for Msta, but not for 2S3s and 2S1s which is the majority of the russian artillery in the SMO

    https://t.me/historywarweaponmain/64820
    In this video, akatsiya operators have to constantly adjust a shitty 1960s scope.
    There are also digitization upgrades for 2S3. 2S3M2 and 2S3M3.

    As for supposed advantages of GPS guided rounds those are only effective until the time Russia decides to jam GPS.
    In case of full blown peer vs peer conflict you would not have GPS. The satellites would be shot down.
    Russia has jammed GPS in Syria and I think they should have done the same around Kherson.

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    Post  Arrow Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:55 pm

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    Post  limb Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:05 pm

    crod wrote:CyberSpec Tel is reporting that the footage of a downed SU-35, claimed to be shot down with IRIS-T in Kherson is from a downing back in May.
    Hope true and not the bird that filmed flying uber low yesterday. 🤞
    The downing in may from friendly fire? Only one Su-35 has been (allegedly) destroyed by enemy missiles.

    There are also digitization upgrades for 2S3. 2S3M2 and 2S3M3.

    As for supposed advantages of GPS guided rounds those are only effective until the time Russia decides to jam GPS.
    In case of full blown peer vs peer conflict you would not have GPS. The satellites would be shot down.
    Russia has jammed GPS in Syria and I think they should have done the same around Kherson.

    Clearly they haven't been upgraded in enough numbers.

    Also russia hasnt jammed GPS. It hasn't even permanently jammed starlink.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:08 pm

    Azi wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:What in your opinion would be the best way to use the mobilized 300k troops? An assault on Kiev or something else?
    They have over 300k mobilized and additional over 70k volunteers only during the mobilization wave. Add this to the existing forces near frontline and add the help of conscripts (they will not take part in offensive operations) to it.

    We speak here about an invasion force of over 500k soldiers ready to go in Ukraine! There are rumors that far more soldiers than the 500k are available because more than 300k have been mobilized.

    I think Kiew is not on the plan, next steps will be Nikolaev, Odessa and Kharkiv...of course after the liberation of the new regions.
    Do you mean 70k volunteers on top of the mobilized 300k?

    If yes, wow
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    Post  Sujoy Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:11 pm

    nomadski wrote:" I am going out on a " limb" here , when I say that Conservative party having chosen " Englishness " ( Brexit ) over Irishness or Scotishness or Europeanishness ( including Russianess ) , opted to join the "  English "  Ex- Empire dominions of Anglophile and Anglophone countries and dreamt of resurrecting the common wealth and British Raj ! As the dominion of the English shrinks and they are left with only London and the stock exchange and the Eel- eating Cockney population , to call their own , their imaginations grow larger and larger !
    There was nothing great about Britain, ever. A combination of slavery and Colonization allowed them to steal a march during the industrial revolution.

    Their rulers only knew how to sustain their economy by looting from their colonies. Once their colonies were gone the country went into a free fall.

    It is not surprising therefore that they have no clue how to govern their country. Intolerance and small-mindedness plagues Britain. Dozens of Neo Nazi outfits exist in that country and it's only a matter of time before one of these outfits lay their hands on Britain's nuke vectors.


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    Post  Big_Gazza Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:20 pm

    Arrow wrote:
    Nobody will give up the Kherson region and Russian troops will not leave there ", says Sergei Surovikin

    I confirm the general words and, moreover, I foresee the imminent liberation of Nikolaev and Odessa

    Imminent liberation of Nikolaev and Odessa??

    Yeeeesssss!!! Twisted Evil

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    Post  Arrow Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:22 pm

    Imminent liberation of Nikolaev and Odessa?? Yeeeesssss!!! Twisted Evil wrote:

    If these are the real words of Surovkin Very Happy

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    Post  Erk Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:23 pm

    Sujoy wrote:U.K now has their first completely illegitimate Prime Minister of Pakistani origin.

    IOW, the same country that defines Putin as a despot and his military intervention in Ukraine illegal.
    He was born in the UK.

    Sunak is a WEF poster child.
    ex. Goldman Sachs and hedge funds.

    Exactly what the UK needs......not.

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    Post  ahmedfire Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:43 pm

    The artillery of the Lugansk People's Republic is working. Soledar direction.
    https://twitter.com/MeridionaliAura/status/1585199423734575109?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1585199423734575109%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

    successful attack of the assault group of the 100th Guards Brigade on the positions of the AFU.
    https://twitter.com/MeridionaliAura/status/1584987471460597761?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1584987471460597761%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

    Direct hit on a #tank of the Ukrainian Armed Forces with a "Krasnopol" bullet in the direction of #Kherson.
    https://twitter.com/A_de_Barnik/status/1585184975154188288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1585184975154188288%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

    Donetsk scouts ambushed armored vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at night
    https://twitter.com/PrateekRoutray/status/1585211538516119554?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1585211538516119554%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

    Destruction of UKR MRLS and "Krab" SP Gun — Ugledar area
    https://twitter.com/PrateekRoutray/status/1585179468028841984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1585179468028841984%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

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    Post  Hole Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:51 pm

    Erk wrote:Exactly what the UK needs......not.
    But they deserve it.  Very Happy

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