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    Post  Arrow Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:27 pm

    Main problem for Russia, at the moment, is party for peace and negotiations, which has some mighty backers and people in high places like Matvienko, who is Ukrainian born. franco on Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:33 pm wrote:

    And Putin said today that he will no longer destroy the infrastructure in Ukraine WTF.

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    Post  famschopman Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:32 pm

    It will be a mass slaughter, unworthy

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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:47 pm

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    Arrow wrote:This is how Putin's compromises end.

    Fool me once.... The fact that they used this humanitarian deal to carry out a terrorist attack better convince Putin that there is nothing to talk about with the US.

    Once?

    This was ''fool me 5000+ times''

    Everyone knew that this deal was bullshit but morons still bent over as always



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    Post  crod Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:59 pm

    Article from the abc here in Australia. How accurate the sources or commentators are I cannot say.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-15/putin-ally-sergei-shoigu-faces-criticism-over-ukraine/101524134?utm_campaign=abc_news_web&utm_content=link&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_source=abc_news_web

    One hopes that the call for citizens to relocate to Russia from Kherson is a sign that the Russians are about to throw the fan at the sh*t and kick this thing off.
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    Post  JohninMK Sat Oct 15, 2022 12:04 am

    Re the withdrawal of civilians from Kherson, Mercuris in the video linked above took right unto 15 minutes of his time to discount the current propaganda campaign on the "looming fall of Kherson" to the Ukies.

    What had actually happened was that the Governor of the Kherson Oblast evidently has almost zero sense of public relations when he made reference to "evacuation" of Kherson City. In fact, he pointed out, that evacuation was being offered to those who feared ongoing missile strikes by the Ukies on their city in a mode similar to their long-term assaults on Donetsk City.

    So how many people took the Governor up on his kind offer to the fearful? Three-hundred and fifty souls, within a city of scores of thousands. Thus, the fearful would amount to far less than 1% of the total population.

    Not sure myself if it was actually the Governor.

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    Post  DerWolf Sat Oct 15, 2022 12:11 am

    So will there be another feint at Kiev? Or they go towards Lvov to cut the supply? what do u think?
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    Post  calripson Sat Oct 15, 2022 12:15 am

    Arrow wrote:

    And  Putin said today that he will no longer destroy the infrastructure in Ukraine WTF.

    Classic Putin, the bullied kid who studied Judo. Act, than peer over your shoulder to see how others respond. Not how you win wars and not the kind of leadership you ask braver men to die for.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat Oct 15, 2022 12:17 am

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    RTN wrote:They ain't a protected race in the States either. But they behave that way. Especially that one jew in this forum with multiple accounts...who forces his narrative on others using multiple handles compelling them to shut up.  
    Being a Jew amounts to nothing unless he is White. Jews of colour get a raw deal in both Israel & US.

    This week a Jewish boy from India was dragged out of a synagogue in Israel by white Jews and physically assaulted.

    Thats a "natural" reaction from a people whose belief system tells them that they are the only true humans, created by a divine being to rule the world, while the rest of us are all "goyim" or animal spirits in human form, created to serve the jewish people (as it is unbecoming for Gods chosen to be served by animals).  Believers insist that to be a jew you need to be born of a jewish woman.  A jew cannot be born from the unclean body of a female goy (ie an animal).

    Jews treat the captive Palestinian population with umost disdain for this reason.  They are animals. They have been defeated. Now they must meekly serve their Masters.

    The mega-wealthy jewish elites in the US and Europe believe the same of us. They dominate the current Whitehouse, the entire US polity (both sides), finance, media, entertainment etc etc. They are the heart and soul of the neocon faction, and increasingly of the neolibs and woke progressives.  Look at the behaviour of the jewish controlled and dominated MSM, and how they are universally hostile to whites in general and any who refuse to buy into woke orthodoxies. So many examples abound of jewish antipathy towards the gentile majority, I won't even bother to say more.

    Not all jews are fundamentalists or orthodox crazies, but most buy into the sense of superiority and manifest destiny, even if they will never openly admit it.  I'll freely admit to despising these people, but its not about their race but about their vile and exclusive CULTURE.  People who recognise the perfidious nature of jewish culture for what it is can be accused of "anti-semitism" or smeared as a "nazi", but the reality of these people and their deeply corrosive influence on Western societies cannot be ignored or downplayed.

    Know whats going on....

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sat Oct 15, 2022 12:19 am

    Putin has been in the process of making a negotiation

    Him and his ilk are fully prepared to negotiate a settlement and trade Kherson to legitimize the little he gained

    This will go down as a disaster in Russian history

    I hope the west slaps him in his face and blows up the other half of the bridge -

    That way the mobilized must be deployed

    I really want this government removed, they are greedy, self centered, have sent our people into death, for their own narrow self interest

    Putin sickens me, and sickens any pro russian that knows what is happening

    Strelkov, Pegov, Soloviev, Kadyrov are all 100% right

    **** Matviyenko, Putin, Medinsky, Peskov, and the other traitors

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat Oct 15, 2022 12:28 am

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    NPPs have their own independent power supply to cool the reactors. No such cooling is required after the fission reaction is quenched.

    ..as long as they have diesel fuel to run their auxilliary generators.

    IMHO they should hit the HV transformer yards and disconnect the Ukro NPPs from the grid.  If a sauce is good for the goose (Energodar NPP) then its good for the gander (Khmelnytskyi, Rivne, "South Ukraine" NPPs).

    Let the West howl.  Russia should just accuse Ukropisstain of "attacking their own NPPs" while smirking.  Razz

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    Post  Backman Sat Oct 15, 2022 12:29 am

    Arrow wrote:

    And  Putin said today that he will no longer destroy the infrastructure in Ukraine WTF.

    He also said that they'd never attack Ukraine on Feb 23. And they'd never occupy any part of Ukraine.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat Oct 15, 2022 12:35 am

    RTN wrote:
    Sujoy wrote:This week a Jewish boy from India was dragged out of a synagogue in Israel by white Jews and physically assaulted.

    The only thing that you post all day, every day is how Indians are being targeted and killed first in Ukraine, then U.S and now Israel because of their race and color.

    You have created several India threads in this forum. Why don't you go there and post instead of spamming every other thread.

    It remains a mystery to me why you do not get banned.

    wow... so Sujoy has a keen interst in how people of his ethnicity are treated overseas, and you think that is somehow inappropriate????

    Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz

    Every now and then I open one of your blocked posts just to test the waters.  Kinda like an environmental scientist taking samples of groundwater from Fukushima.  The results are worst than expected.  You need to remain quarantined for a 1000 years. Razz

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    Post  caveat emptor Sat Oct 15, 2022 12:36 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    ..as long as they have diesel fuel to run their auxilliary generators.

    IMHO they should hit the HV transformer yards and disconnect the Ukro NPPs from the grid.  If a sauce is good for the goose (Energodar NPP) then its good for the gander (Khmelnytskyi, Rivne, "South Ukraine" NPPs).

    Let the West howl.  Russia should just accuse Ukropisstain of "attacking their own NPPs" while smirking.  Razz
    It's a moot point imo. There's no resolve to do it right now. Kremenchug refinery is still up and running and all it takes to destroy is to knock out few cracking units.

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    Post  Werewolf Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:01 am

    Arrow wrote:

    And  Putin said today that he will no longer destroy the infrastructure in Ukraine WTF.

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    Never seen a movie where the villian says "I promised to not kill you" and then proceeds to let his right hand do it anyway.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:05 am

    Backman wrote:Russia can't annex all of Ukraine.  

    Nameless Western official: "Chechnya will always remain a hotbed of insurgency and terrorism within Russia."

    Razz

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    Post  mnztr Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:14 am

    Werewolf wrote:
    Arrow wrote:

    And  Putin said today that he will no longer destroy the infrastructure in Ukraine WTF.

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #29 - Page 5 6wykxv

    Never seen a movie where the villian says "I promised to not kill you" and then proceeds to let his right hand do it anyway.

    "Remember when I told you I would kill you last? ...I lied"  - Arnie. Laughing


    BTW he said there is no need for MAJOR strikes. Meaning the 70-80 missile barrages. I think they wanna focus on killing the U army. BUT as I have said, why kill the army if you can take away their diesel. Its much easier and cheaper.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:18 am

    caveat emptor wrote:
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    ..as long as they have diesel fuel to run their auxilliary generators.

    IMHO they should hit the HV transformer yards and disconnect the Ukro NPPs from the grid.  If a sauce is good for the goose (Energodar NPP) then its good for the gander (Khmelnytskyi, Rivne, "South Ukraine" NPPs).

    Let the West howl.  Russia should just accuse Ukropisstain of "attacking their own NPPs" while smirking.  Razz
    It's a moot point imo. There's no resolve to do it right now. Kremenchug refinery is still up and running and all it takes to destroy is to knock out few cracking units.

    The fact that the fractionation units at Kremenchug are still online is prima facie evidence that Russia ultimately intends to sieze control of the territory east of the Dnepr, and therefore doesn't want to obliterate a valuable asset that they would otherwise have to rebuild.

    Storage tanks for crude and refined products, truck/rail loading gantries, and export pipeline (if such exist) are comparitively cheap and easy to replace post-conflict. Burned out distillation columns or electrical/instrumentation control buildings? Not so much....

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:24 am

    Backman wrote:
    Arrow wrote:

    This is how Putin's compromises end.

    Fool me once.... The fact that they used this humanitarian deal to carry out a terrorist attack better convince Putin that there is nothing to talk about with the US.

    In any case, neary all the grain that was exported from Odessa under this deal went to the EU rather than the African nations that are suffering food supply stresses. Fucking Eurotrash arseholes played on humanitarian sympathies in order to satisfy their own selfish commercial needs.

    Funnily enough, the Collective West wonder why the African nations (and others in the global South) aren't buying into their Russia-Hate bullshit... Razz

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    Post  mnztr Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:29 am

    Anyone found any good info on Russian missile inventories?
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    Post  Erk Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:34 am

    mnztr wrote:Anyone found any good info on Russian missile inventories?
    I would imagine that is a state secret.

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    Post  crod Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:34 am

    According to Cyberspec Telegram channel, some heavy fighting up Lyman way and both sides are reinforcing.
    Down south, uki forces are attacking Kherson at 6 locations with talk of 60k troops ready for the attack https://t.me/CyberspecNews/10586. If these numbers are accurate and the counter on Kherson fails, that would be an enormous loss to the Ukraine. A lot of Russians will most likely die too you would think. Huge attacking force by any measure (if accurate).

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    Post  Regular Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:35 am

    Backman wrote:
    caveat emptor wrote:It looks like some bureaucrats in MoD felt threatened:

    https://t.me/RVvoenkor/29123

      9 Russian military correspondents and bloggers, including I. Strelkov, are at risk of being charged with discrediting the RF Armed Forces.

    "These are: Igor Strelkov, Semyon Pegov (WarGonzo), Yuri Podolyaka, Vladlen Tatarsky, Sergey Mardan, Igor Dimitriev, the authors of GreyZone, Rybar and, suddenly, K. Potupchik. The content in their TG channels is already being analyzed for fakes, discrediting and  other prohibited and punishable content," writes Mash.
    ▪According to the media, a statement to Roskomnadzor demanding to check the materials of the authors was allegedly signed, and in the Prosecutor General's Office the case is being handled by the head of the department for supervision over the implementation of the law on federal security, terrorism, extremism and interethnic relations.  "The reason is criticism of the Ministry of Defense and its decisions during the special operation."
    ▪"How long the check will last is unknown. But if the offense and guilt are established, the military correspondents will receive fines or up to 3 years in prison."
      We don’t know if this is true, but Margarita Simonyan, close to the first persons of the country, RT, voiced her opinion:
    "In our trenches today they have been discussing all day that someone is preparing criminal cases against patriotic military correspondents."
    Even if someone came up with such an idea, then "nothing like this can happen. Because it's impossible."

    I've been saying Strelkov should  be arrested for defamation of the SMO since March. Even if what he is saying turned out to be right. That's not how you fight a propaganda war.

    Most pro Ukraine channels get their info from these so called patriotic corrispondents. I'm surprised it took this long for the mod to get a grip on these outfits.

    According to Russian media and RWA - no such thing is happening. On the opposite - Strelkov seems to get permission to enter SMO and train some volunteers. If true - He knows thing or two and his knowledge will be used.

    Ukrainians spread so much disinfo pretending to be russians that it’s not even funny. The more they lie- the better it’s going for Russians.

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    Post  Backman Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:55 am

    mnztr wrote:Anyone found any good info on Russian missile inventories?

    Russia isn't running out of missiles.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Sat Oct 15, 2022 2:13 am

    mnztr wrote:Anyone found any good info on Russian missile inventories?

    Out since March, they've been using catapults and trebuchets since April to launch washing machines and bathtubs.

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