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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon Sep 19, 2022 5:11 pm

    mnztr wrote:
    LMFS wrote:Sorry if posted already. Really simple question with an obvious answer:

    The other goal was to protect the LDNR.  Kherson is not part of the LDNR.

    http://thesaker.is/who-will-run-out-of-resources-first/


    Ukraine will not run out of resources for a LONG time unless Russia gets effective with interdiction. The only quick way to end this war is to close the Ukraine border with the west. It will take a large army, sure, but if Russia does intend to take Ukraine, the fastest way to do it is to close their borders. The Ukraine army will not last more then a month without supply from the West. If they do not do this the fighting can go on indefinitely.

    Ukropisstain can't fight if it doesn't have enough soldiers...  6-7 rounds of conscription and millions fleeing to both Russia and EU mean that the banderites will have increasing difficulties trying to replace their lost troops - you just can't squeeze blood from a stone, and Ukropistan is just about tapped out in regards to available useful manpower (nations that need to conscript old men in their 60s and women ain't got much gas left in the tank).  Russia needs to keep turning Ukro orcs into red mist...  the rest will sort itself out.

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    Post  billybatts91 Mon Sep 19, 2022 5:16 pm

    If Ukraine is allowed to retake Mariupol, then Putin needs to be executed immediately for treasonous inaction in a time of war along with Shoigu and all other top generals who make important decisions relating to this war.

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    Post  LMFS Mon Sep 19, 2022 5:21 pm

    mnztr wrote:
    Ukraine will not run out of resources for a LONG time unless Russia gets effective with interdiction. The only quick way to end this war is to close the Ukraine border with the west. It will take a large army, sure, but if Russia does intend to take Ukraine, the fastest way to do it is to close their borders. The Ukraine army will not last more then a month without supply from the West. If they do not do this the fighting can go on indefinitely.

    Who says it will happen soon? Russia has all the time in the world, the West and 404 don't. Now go organize your own general staff at home and show the world how much better than the Russian one you are.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon Sep 19, 2022 5:26 pm

    billybatts91 wrote:If Ukraine is allowed to retake Mariupol, blah blah blah blah.

    Oh do pls STFU with such nonsense. Honestly, this steroid-laced FUD is really trying my patience. Is there no limit to the absurdities we must endure? Suspect

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    Post  LMFS Mon Sep 19, 2022 5:38 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    Ukropisstain can't fight if it doesn't have enough soldiers...  6-7 rounds of conscription and millions fleeing to both Russia and EU mean that the banderites will have increasing difficulties trying to replace their lost troops - you just can't squeeze blood from a stone, and Ukropistan is just about tapped out in regards to available useful manpower (nations that need to conscript old men in their 60s and women ain't got much gas left in the tank).  Russia needs to keep turning Ukro orcs into red mist...  the rest will sort itself out.

    The Anglos are attacking Russia with the bankruptcy of the Europeans and the blood of the ukies, literally doing what the Russians call "threatening a hedgehog with a naked butt"  Laughing

    No, if the West and the ukies have no problem implementing the war to the last ukrainian, it wont be Russia that will spoil their macabre party. Keep them coming and see whether shells run out sooner than lemmings.

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    Post  billybatts91 Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:05 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    billybatts91 wrote:If Ukraine is allowed to retake Mariupol, blah blah blah blah.

    Oh do pls STFU with such nonsense. Honestly, this steroid-laced FUD is really trying my patience. Is there no limit to the absurdities we must endure? Suspect

    What is nonsense about it? Ukraine has a shit-ton of troops ready to storm Donetsk, Russia is undermanned right now and losing territory by the day.

    Bozos like you who are trying to act all cool, calm and collected are the problem. This is how Russian leadership is acting right now. They, along with you all, don't understand the urgency of the situation apparently. Now is not the time to think everything will magically work out in the end with the current half-assed approach. That's not how this works. If Russia doesn't do what it's supposed to in time, they will lose this war and lose all credibility and legitimacy as a country along with it.

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    Post  sepheronx Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:08 pm

    billybatts91 wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:
    billybatts91 wrote:If Ukraine is allowed to retake Mariupol, blah blah blah blah.

    Oh do pls STFU with such nonsense. Honestly, this steroid-laced FUD is really trying my patience. Is there no limit to the absurdities we must endure? Suspect

    What is nonsense about it? Ukraine has a shit-ton of troops ready to storm Donetsk, Russia is undermanned right now and losing territory by the day.

    Bozos like you who are trying to act all cool, calm and collected are the problem. This is how Russian leadership is acting right now. They, along with you all, don't understand the urgency of the situation apparently. Now is not the time to think everything will magically work out in the end with the current half-assed approach. That's not how this works. If Russia doesn't do what it's supposed to in time, they will lose this war and lose all credibility and legitimacy as a country along with it.

    No, he is right. Go **** off.

    Urgency? What urgency?

    Let them try to take it. If they take it, it will be taken back.  Let Ukraine throw human waves. As some said, the more dead, the better it is.

    You didn't know these places even existed before this conflict so shut it and **** off already.  You don't even know anything anyway. You pretend that this or that is critical or necessary or whatever. You don't make that decision.

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    Post  Backman Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:10 pm

    LMFS wrote:
    mnztr wrote:
    Ukraine will not run more then a month without supply from the West. If they do not do this the fighting can go on indefinitely.

    Who says it will happen soon? Russia has all the time in the world, the West and 404 don't. Now go organize your own general staff at home and show the world how much better than the Russian one you are.

    This is a war of hegemonic survival for the US. How do we know that the US isn't emptying prisons across the EU and US , shipping them to Ramstein and then bringing them to the front ?
    There is already lots of Polish speaking fighters , English speakers and African American ppl spotted on the battlefield.

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    Post  sepheronx Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:14 pm

    GarryB, please, start cleaning this thread.

    So DNR and LNR will be holding votes I believe in coming days to join Russia.

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    Post  Backman Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:19 pm

    ^ They want to but it's not clear if Russia wants to do it now.

    Residents of the Kherson region want to hold a referendum as soon as possible to get guarantees of the region's entry into Russia with reference to Kirill Stremousov.

    The Public Chamber of the DPR appealed to Pushilin with a request to hold a referendum on the republic's entry into the Russian Federation.

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    Post  Scorpius Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:24 pm

    thus, all that the Ukrainians will be able to achieve is the speedy entry into Russia of the territories liberated from the Nazis. After that, it will become the internal territory of Russia, therefore, the Russian army will legitimately enter there, and military aggression against these territories will be a legitimate trigger for a counter-retaliatory nuclear strike.
    Did I mention how many drama queens have been on this forum lately? Smile

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    Post  franco Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:27 pm

    Western culture is turning all males into "queers or steers"...sigh!!

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    Post  Backman Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:42 pm

    Scorpius wrote:thus,
    Did I mention how many drama queens have been on this forum lately? Smile

    I never said i agreed with him. But it was Mark Sleoba who said he is worried about the Ukraine formations around the south east.
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    Post  billybatts91 Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:52 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    billybatts91 wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:
    billybatts91 wrote:If Ukraine is allowed to retake Mariupol, blah blah blah blah.

    Oh do pls STFU with such nonsense. Honestly, this steroid-laced FUD is really trying my patience. Is there no limit to the absurdities we must endure? Suspect

    What is nonsense about it? Ukraine has a shit-ton of troops ready to storm Donetsk, Russia is undermanned right now and losing territory by the day.

    Bozos like you who are trying to act all cool, calm and collected are the problem. This is how Russian leadership is acting right now. They, along with you all, don't understand the urgency of the situation apparently. Now is not the time to think everything will magically work out in the end with the current half-assed approach. That's not how this works. If Russia doesn't do what it's supposed to in time, they will lose this war and lose all credibility and legitimacy as a country along with it.

    No, he is right. Go **** off.

    Urgency? What urgency?

    Let them try to take it. If they take it, it will be taken back.  Let Ukraine throw human waves. As some said, the more dead, the better it is.

    You didn't know these places even existed before this conflict so shut it and **** off already.  You don't even know anything anyway.  You pretend that this or that is critical or necessary or whatever. You don't make that decision.

    Shut the **** up you goddamn moron. I've known about this conflict long before the war started in February. The more the dead the better? You're a crazy and stupid ****, a bad combination. Yeah....let Ukraine take Mariupol and try to retake it back? Are you fucking serious? How fucking moronic can you be lol?

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    Post  thegopnik Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:55 pm

    So donbass is going to be annexed to lol. NovoRussia is no longer a joke I guess.
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    Post  billybatts91 Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:56 pm

    sepheronx wrote:GarryB, please, start cleaning this thread.

    So DNR and LNR will be holding votes I believe in coming days to join Russia.

    You're a little pussy who can't deal with opposite views/opinions. You need to **** off from this forum! You bastard. Acting overconfident and like everything is going according to plan? The hell it is, Russia's strategy is failing and will fail even worse if they don't make the proper adjustments.

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    Post  LMFS Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:20 pm

    thegopnik wrote:So donbass is going to be annexed to lol. NovoRussia is no longer a joke I guess.

    Reunification by referendum is NOT annexation. Actually it is a democratic event (I am sure it will make the West very happy)

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    Post  kvs Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:25 pm

    LMFS wrote:
    thegopnik wrote:So donbass is going to be annexed to lol. NovoRussia is no longer a joke I guess.

    Reunification by referendum is NOT annexation. Actually it is a democratic event (I am sure it will make the West very happy)

    Obummer claimed Kosovo had a referendum even though it never had. So clearly these votes legitimize the secession more than
    any "international recognition" does.

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    Post  mnztr Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:48 pm

    LMFS wrote:
    Who says it will happen soon? Russia has all the time in the world, the West and 404 don't. Now go organize your own general staff at home and show the world how much better than the Russian one you are.

    Its an illusion to think time is on your side in any war. You have no control as to what the other side is up to or what weapons NATO is providing them. Also, your political support from citizens and allies wears down as time goes on and the bodies keep piling up. Lets face it, even people that feel Russia is justified feel sad for the Ukrainians being forced to go to the front to get torn to pieces. its sad and ugly. What if Ukraine with the help of the USA develops longer range cruise missiles and starts hitting cities in Russia. Its really not that hard. A Turkish drone can go 4000 km, what the Ukrainians modify it and send it on autonomous bombing missions in Russia? Yeah pinpricks I know, but politically?

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    Post  sepheronx Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:17 pm

    mnztr wrote:
    LMFS wrote:
    Who says it will happen soon? Russia has all the time in the world, the West and 404 don't. Now go organize your own general staff at home and show the world how much better than the Russian one you are.

    Its an illusion to think time is on your side in any war. You have no control as to what the other side is up to or what weapons NATO is providing them. Also, your political support from citizens and allies wears down as time goes on and the bodies keep piling up. Lets face it, even people that feel Russia is justified feel sad for the Ukrainians being forced to go to the front to get torn to pieces. its sad and ugly. What if Ukraine with the help of the USA develops longer range cruise missiles and starts hitting cities in Russia. Its really not that hard. A Turkish drone can go 4000 km, what the Ukrainians modify it and send it on autonomous bombing missions in Russia? Yeah pinpricks I know, but politically?

    Then if they do do that, then it opens itself up to moving from the SMO to full on war.
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    Post  TMA1 Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:48 pm

    Billybats91 dont talk shit to LMFS pls he is one of the better contributors to this board and you are getting emotional. Look this situation for the people trying to break away from Ukraine is horrible. Thry suffer the cruelest. Sadly also with the way troops are moving often citizens can get stuck where they are behind enemy lines and are tortured and killed. There is no good in any of this.

    But you would have to be a fool if you cannot see that the west wants total mobilization of Russian troops. The fact that Russia intervened is enough to show thry are in this for good. But they will not move completely yet. Ultimately I think they will have to as the western elites are deluded and panicking. They will not relent or give up power. Our people here in the west have no idea how out of touch and wicked they are.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:55 pm

    billybatts91 wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:
    billybatts91 wrote:If Ukraine is allowed to retake Mariupol, blah blah blah blah.

    Oh do pls STFU with such nonsense. Honestly, this steroid-laced FUD is really trying my patience. Is there no limit to the absurdities we must endure? Suspect

    What is nonsense about it? Ukraine has a shit-ton of troops ready to storm Donetsk, Russia is undermanned right now and losing territory by the day.

    Bozos like you who are trying to act all cool, calm and collected are the problem. This is how Russian leadership is acting right now. They, along with you all, don't understand the urgency of the situation apparently. Now is not the time to think everything will magically work out in the end with the current half-assed approach. That's not how this works. If Russia doesn't do what it's supposed to in time, they will lose this war and lose all credibility and legitimacy as a country along with it.

    Bozos ?
    Is that so ? Well, you're a worn-out **** ! Do yoe like that, BOZO ?
    Billy boy, realize that you don't know what the Russian leadership is doing, nor does anyone. How many times do you and similar idiots need to be told to let things take their course ?
    You're all stupid, only I'm smart - you're another one of th degenerates..Who the **** are you ?
    And the Russian leadership is stupid, the economists and the army too, but the "too smart" Billy is right..**** off !
    I simply can't understand that some people can't place themselves where they belong - a member of the Russian military forum. NOTHING ELSE !!!

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    Post  mnztr Mon Sep 19, 2022 10:11 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    mnztr wrote:
    LMFS wrote:
    Who says it will happen soon? Russia has all the time in the world, the West and 404 don't. Now go organize your own general staff at home and show the world how much better than the Russian one you are.

    Its an illusion to think time is on your side in any war. You have no control as to what the other side is up to or what weapons NATO is providing them. Also, your political support from citizens and allies wears down as time goes on and the bodies keep piling up. Lets face it, even people that feel Russia is justified feel sad for the Ukrainians being forced to go to the front to get torn to pieces. its sad and ugly. What if Ukraine with the help of the USA develops longer range cruise missiles and starts hitting cities in Russia. Its really not that hard. A Turkish drone can go 4000 km, what the Ukrainians modify it and send it on autonomous bombing missions in Russia? Yeah pinpricks I know, but politically?

    Then if they do do that, then it opens itself up to moving from the SMO to full on war.

    Ukraine believes they are in a full scale war already.

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