MLRS systems were not designed to be used as PGM weapons and Russia has not used MLRS single rocket in a highly crowded civilian Area against military targets.
We know they have developed a guided version of the Smerch rocket... the purpose of guided would be to be able to selectively hit a precise target amongst non targets... the smaller payload of the Smerch rocket would actually be of benefit in this case reducing the radius of damage and containing it within the area the target is occupying at the time.
Hitting the same target with Iskander (a shorter fatter missile with a 500-600kg warhead) or a cruise missile like Calibre (right length but no wings visible and no visible tail surface control fins either and also a 400kg HE warhead) would create a lot more damage nearby and it seems to be in a well built up area with civilians.
The smaller warhead of a guided Smerch would make more sense in this case assuming it was accurate enough to get where it was put... which is the whole point of guided.
Looks more like the UK is running out of "instructors" that are being send through the meat grinder back in Banderastan.
I would say the UK military is full of soldiers who know exactly what is happening in the Ukraine and likely do not want to train soldiers to go and die by artillery or air strike... which no training can protect you from if your commanders order you to take well defended enemy positions that are just waiting for you to step out into the no mans land for slaughter... let Canadian and Swedish instructors tell them what to do and build their hopes up and send them to slaughter.
The first few hundred recruits are receiving instruction at sites across Britain in the first phase of program that aims to train up to 10,000 Ukrainian soldiers in weapons handling, battlefield first aid and patrol tactics,
Oh, weapons handling, first aid and patrol tactics... you didn't say they were getting special forces training...
To repeat what Lyle said...
This is just cruel. This war is an artillery and missile war. No amount of infantry training can make up for the insane deficit in firepower the Ukrainian soldier would face on the battlefield. Just give them the couple of months with their families, and then bus them to the front afterwards. It won't matter either way.
Better still let them choose their own barracks... have one set up with nazi uniforms and pictures of Hitler, and the other made out like a normal UK barracks... give the nazis the training and then send them back to the Ukraine... the other ones just hang on to till the war is over or train them in regime change tactics and send them to Kiev.
When it detects radar emmission it homes in otherwise it self destructed.
Which explains finding fragments rather than a missile wrapped around a radar...
Smerch is not an equivalent of HIMARS, and someone who is stating that is either misinformed, with agenda in mind, or stupid.
The Guided Smerch rocket is the equivalent of HIMARS, but as a system Hermes is closer... but probably still not as expensive as HIMARS and with better guidance options that would include more than satellite guidance.
Again, this all bullshit is a commercial campaign targeting potential buyers across Europe. Nothing more.
Which is ironic because HATO members don't usually get much of a choice anyway...
May have been 45,000kg not 45,000,000kg. Certainly more believable.
Might include launch vehicles and other material, and of course all ordinance is very carefully packaged too...
About this Harm , why they need it ? Why not keep using Himars ?
HARM is fire and forget and could be launched ahead of a rocket barrage to try to take out Russian battlefield radar that they use to track their artillery and both try to shoot down the rockets and shells but also locate the guns and launchers so they can be attacked.
Obvious problem of course is that HARM is a very easy weapon for Russian air defence systems to shoot down, so actually in their arse about way it would work better launching it after firing a salvo of artillery shells and artillery rockets in the hope it might sneak through and catch the radar while the AD systems are being overwhelmed... but they talk about missile fragments being found... I rather doubt they were wrapped around a radar antenna at the time.
Most Russian battlefield radars have corner reflectors located nearby and if a radar thinks it is under attack it can direct a pencil thin tracking beam at the corner reflector in a direction where the reflected energy will divert the incoming missile away from the radar and have it explode HARMlessly. A corner reflector is just three pieces of metal wielded together to reflect a radar signal... you can make them from scrap metal if you want and they are cheap.
HARMS were fired in their thousands in Kosovo and didn't hit didly squat... ALARMS were much more capable and dangerous but not sure they were much more successful.
HIMARS isn't designed with that in mind, its designed to hit a needle in a haystack, it's a tactical MLRS designed to strike very specific points strategic points and that's what its been used for and has done so.
HIMARS is a missile system... like Hermes... it is too expensive to be used as rocket artillery.
Also Smerch is not more mobile you literally just lied buddy.
300mm SMERCH and 220mm Uragan and 122mm Grad are all very mobile... their only rocket launcher able to negotiate rougher terrain is the 220mm TOS-1 on a T-72 tank chassis.
And generally, I am amazed with the Schizophren view of few.
Totally agree... it is rampant in small arms... 9 x 18mm Makarov pistol rounds are useless but the 9 x 19mm western round is amazing but the 9 x 21mm new Russian cartridge is OK... the 7.62 x 51mm is amazing and a super cartridge for machine guns and sniper rifles but the 7.62 x 54mmR is not, the 12.7x99mm Browning HMG round is amazing and all powerful while the Soviet 12.7 x 108mm is exactly the same... etc etc...
The US has indeed no MLRS system for high intensity war.
They can't deliver cheap mass produced ammo... by making it guided they can charge more per missile by claiming it works out cheaper.
Obviously it works out cheaper against point single targets you would normally fire a 203mm or 152mm guided shell at, but most of the time rocket artillery is used in a heavy barrage in which case guidance is a waste of money.
Even the earliest Smerch rockets had built in gyros... they were relatively cheap but did not improve precision... they didn't get the rockets on target... what they did was steer the rockets to keep them together so none strayed off by itself so they all landed together in a group... because they are used against area targets.
Each rocket can cover x amount of area with its fragments... when the target is an enemy artillery batter with towed guns placed ready to fire, their trucks that towed them there sitting 20m away and each gun 30-40m apart no single rocket is going to get more than one gun or one truck... but a volley of 24 rockets delivering airburst bomblets could obliterate every truck and gun and soldier in that field in a few seconds... not time to run.
The 9N176 Smerch rocket is a cluster bomb equipped rocket that carries HEAT fragmentation submunitions... each rocket carries 646 munitions... or just HE Frag the 9N139 carries 72 fragmentation bomblets per rocket... if there is armour nearby the 9N152 carries 5 sensor fused submunitions with self forging fragments and MMW radar and IR sensors using top attack self forging fragments... these are not their latest rockets...
To begin with, the accuracy for non-guided ballistic missiles like the most used for MLRS is measured with a distance deviation. The longer you shoot, the bigger the CEP is. Making a comparison for 32km round and 70/90 km round is clueless. That applies to M26 and it's derivatives.
My understanding is that all Smerch rockets that don't actually have guidance or need it (like the drone rocket or Illumination rockets) have a gyro system to keep the groups together by resisting the effect of wind on the groupings... not making them more accurate, but making them land closer together than they otherwise should.
If the mission is to hit a positional target with a solid monoblock warhead, a whole shooting sequence is different. One does not shoot salvos, but single rounds that can be corrected via observation means, let it be own T90 that can transmit visual data all way back, and hover over the target for 20-30 min. You can put a whole load of a battery in a 50m radius, which will deliver a secured direct hit to any structure.
Smerch and Uragan and Grad are what they are... systems for hitting area targets all at once with enormous volumes of HE and fragments or munitions or fire.
To make them more versatile there are guided versions, but they are already developing ground based HERMES for pin point targets on the ground up to 100km away with guidance including MMW radar and satellite guidance and likely IIR guided models as well so it should be able to engage fixed as well as moving targets.
HIMARS is an American HERMES because MLRS are too cheap to make a decent profit from so they perverted the concept to surgical strike.
MLRS replaced a lot of US artillery when it was introduced because it was so expensive, and now it is too expensive to use as actual artillery.
I seem to remember discussions here about how amazeballs the M777 was and why didn't Russia have anything like it and why was Russian artillery so shit and so awful, while western artillery is so amazeballs.
You see Caesar and PZH2000 and M777 are all ledges... can you not read marketing material?