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    Post  Firebird Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:12 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    Firebird wrote:
    I remember once, Vann decided Russia should be run by a GERMAN instead of Putin.
    I think that just about sums the poster up.

    Additionally, I remember some utterly vile posts from the poster with a defence of Nazi wartime atrocities and a general "sympathy" for Nazism.

    Accordingly, when I see a giant chunk of text attacking anything Russian, its a pretty huge probability its something from that poster, and therefore something to skip past.

    Vann sounds like a 16 year old Ukropian. Out of curiousity I once joined chat ruletka and chose Ukropistan. Their beloved phrases are Salo Kokaine and "Believe me..." He probably believes in Russian Horde raiding for toilettes.

    I wouldn't be surprised if he has some *enko family name and believes he is Ukrainian.

    Apparently he is "German Russian" living in Germany.
    Quite often I find that that translates to someone with say German parents and grandparents who used to live in Russia but moved to Germany.
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    Post  Werewolf Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:04 pm

    Firebird wrote:
    Apparently he is "German Russian" living in Germany.
    Quite often I find that that translates to someone with say German parents and grandparents who used to live in Russia but moved to Germany.

    I doubt.
    What most can agree on is, that he has no understanding what he is talking about and the way he writes or copy pastes his text make him appear like an arrogant douche who believes he is some higher being and wisdom from toe to head talking down to us baboons.

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    Post  Hole Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:54 pm

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    Post  Hole Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:00 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    Would be even better with more numbers and letters to know what we are looking at.

    Ukrainians seem to be tremendously outnumbering russian forces. IMO if they really want Odessa and link Transnistria through land thry will have to mobilize another 200k soldiers. The further they go, the monger the supply lines and the easier it is to attack their troops. Keeping going with low numbers of troops will make it very difficult and suicidal for them.

    PS: I think russians have some mistake in ukrainian fprces positions. They have sent everything they had and most of the ukrainian positions on this map must be empty of soldiers.

    I would like to point out several things:

    1) the Ukrainian units are definitely thinned out

    2) there is still ton of Russian troops not deployed

    3) they will simply increase the amount after Donbass

    Attack the supply lines. Attack by whom? What some people don´t get is that the Russians didn´t go in, take the capital and declare victory, just to fight an insurgency for the next 20 years like some other countries did in the last decades. After the Russian Army liberated an area there are nor enemy forces left. 99% of the population will be living their lifes after the frontline moved on. The remaining 1% will be dealt with by Rosgvardija and the FSB.

    Outnumbering. Yeah, fine. They´re outnumbering the Russian Forces with 50 to 60 year old men and now young women. This is like sending in 10 small kids to play against the current Basketball World Champion. They will be outnumbered but their quality of play will be much, much, much better.

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    Post  LMFS Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:04 pm

    The Polish press discusses the statement of the head of the Main Intelligence Directorate of Belarus on the targets for possible strikes on the territory of Poland

    The Polish media are actively discussing the statement of the Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Belarus - the head of the GRU of the Republic of Belarus Ruslan Kosygin. We are talking about the statement of the Belarusian commander, in which he called Poland and the Baltic republics - countries that are turning into a training ground by the United States of America.

    According to Ruslan Kosygin, the United States plans to unleash another military conflict in these territories, which is directed against Russia and its main ally, Belarus. Also, the deputy head of the Belarusian General Staff said that in the event of a provocation by the West near the Belarusian borders, Minsk would not leave this unanswered. According to the head of the main intelligence department of Belarus, in the event of a conflict, objects on the territory of Poland become the primary targets for strikes. Kosygin added that, as Alexander Lukashenko has already said, the answer will be instant.

    Ruslan Kosygin added that these will be decision-making centers, critical military infrastructure facilities, etc.

    In the Polish press, commenting on these statements, they write that "no one is engaged in any provocations on the territory of Poland." The publication Rzeczpospolita claims that on the territory of Poland, Polish troops and their NATO allies “conduct only planned exercises that do not pose a threat to any country, including Belarus.”

    At the same time, the most radical elements in the Polish parliament have already called for responding to the statements of the head of the Main Intelligence Directorate of Belarus and again discussing in the NATO format the transfer of additional troops to Belarusian territory.

    It is important that at the moment not a single politician and official in Poland has proposed to sit down at the negotiating table and discuss de-escalation. This once again indicates that the Polish political elites have chosen an exclusively confrontational agenda and believe that the crisis can only be resolved by military means.

    Recall that the day before, the President of the Russian Federation, holding a meeting with the heads of factions, noted that in the West they are increasingly talking about the need to defeat our country on the battlefield. Vladimir Putin commented on these words succinctly:

    Well, let them try.

    https://en.topwar.ru/198752-v-polskoj-presse-obsuzhdaetsja-zajavlenie-nachalnika-gur-belorussii-o-celjah-dlja-vozmozhnyh-udarov-na-territorii-polshi.html

    It is indeed very clear for Russian leadership where the Anglo strategy leads. Since a mix of crooks, nazis and opportunists were placed at the helm on those countries, people that have nothing to lose in a war with Russia but lot to lose if their owners are defeated, they will happily push for further escalation, which will destroy their countries and easily get out of control.

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    Post  LMFS Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:15 pm

    Russia to seek international decisions to prevent US from making bioweapons — lawmaker

    It is noted that there’s no doubt that the US military biological program in Ukraine is part of the Pentagon’s plan for a global biological aggression
    MOSCOW, July 7. /TASS/. Russia will seek international decisions to ensure US compliance with a convention that bans biological weapons and prevent the US from making them, a Russian lawmaker said on Thursday.

    "We will seek international decisions so that the US unconditionally complies with the requirements of the BTWC and there’s control over its activities that will prevent the development and use of biological weapons," State Duma Deputy Speaker Irina Yarovaya, who is chairwoman of the parliamentary commission that investigates US biolabs in Ukraine, was quoted as saying in a statement by the legislature’s press service.

    She said there’s no doubt that the US military biological program in Ukraine is part of the Pentagon’s plan for a global biological aggression.

    https://tass.com/politics/1477075

    I put his here since it mentions 404 specifically, though it is a global issue...

    So, this happens in the context of Gaidar openly naming COVID a bioweapon, China acting as if they were under national threat each time a new wave hits, Jeffrey Sachs saying openly he has solid evidence that it was created at a US biolab, and in general Russia and China fuming at the presence of these funny biolabs in their surroundings. Obviously this is not going to stop here and both countries are going to purse US until end of the world and make sure they pay for what they have done and are doing. Huge revelations probably on our way.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:18 pm

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    Laughing

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    Post  Isos Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:02 pm

    Eugenio Argentina wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #20 - Page 11 FXF5D_JXkAkv5uV?format=jpg&name=large

    Laughing

    Vietnamese used f-4 fuel tanks as boats. Random people make better use of US stuff than US military or UK military in this case.

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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:13 pm

    Belisarius wrote:🇷🇺🇺🇦 Trophy "Bayraktars" will be exhibited in Kubinka

    According to unconfirmed information, an exposition dedicated to a special military operation in Ukraine is being prepared in the Patriot Park.

    Pictures of the captured Bayraktar TB2 drone appeared on the Web, which will probably be exhibited as part of the exposition.
    https://t.me/intelslava/32724

    Win the war first, brag later

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    Post  GarryB Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:18 pm

    Anyone assessed the accuracy of this?

    It includes Ukrainian Tunguskas with Zs sprayed on them and set fire to at the storage site they were located in... hilarious.

    And desperate.

    One more weapon Russia has against EU is to jamm the civilian GPS.

    That would impact small businesses very hardly.

    I don't think they would bother with that... wouldn't surprise me if the US dialed down the accuracy to make it useless and then blamed the Russians for that though.

    some civilian made home made gun, dont know what his beef was with Abe.

    Japan has the most strict gun laws in the world... essentially only replica guns allowed privately owned...

    Outnumbering. Yeah, fine. They´re outnumbering the Russian Forces with 50 to 60 year old men and now young women. This is like sending in 10 small kids to play against the current Basketball World Champion. They will be outnumbered but their quality of play will be much, much, much better.

    Not to mention their command and control and coodination will be non existent as well as no support from artillery or air power... not to mention no armour or ground support vehicles... but if they do get some they won't last long.

    Hahahaha... an NLAW watertank... nice.

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:23 pm

    The start of a long article

    Ukraine-Russia: Hidden tech war as Slovyansk battle looms

    By Jonathan Beale
    near Slovyansk, Ukraine

    Published

    2 hours ago

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    Drone pilot near Slovyansk
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    Ukraine's Dnipro 1 Battalion is preparing to defend the key eastern city of Slovyansk

    "Right now, we have two big battles," says Dmytro Podvorchanskyi, a soldier with Ukraine's Dnipro 1 Battalion. "The first is an artillery battle," he says, "the second is a battle of technologies".

    Dmytro is fighting that second, largely unseen war. He leads a unit of just 10 soldiers who form Dnipro 1's drone intelligence unit. Dmytro says he prefers to call it "IT guys who fight". All of them are volunteers. Most of them have a background in information technology, and knew each other before the war started.

    On a mobile phone one of the team shows us drone footage of the Russian targets they've already destroyed - their "greatest hits".

    Dmytro lists them: "One tank, three or four artillery guns, two mortar positions and five or six ammunition dumps."

    "Good results for just 10 people," he says, before breaking into a smile. They've already been fighting in Rubizhne and Severodonetsk - cities captured by the Russians. Now they're getting ready to defend Slovyansk.
    A woman walks past the market after shelling in SlovyanskImage source, Reuters
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    Slovyansk has come under repeated bombardment this week from Russia's advancing forces

    "I think Slovyansk will be the next big target for Russia," says one of his team. I ask whether he thinks they'll be able to halt the Russian advance. "Sure," he says.

    Drones or Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) have been used widely in other wars, but not on this scale. They're key weapons for both Russia and Ukraine. Both sides have larger military drones - like Russia's Orlan-10 or Ukraine's famous Bayraktar, a Turkish-made drone. They're often more expensive and complex and can be easier to target and shoot down.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62090791

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    Post  caveat emptor Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:05 pm

    It looks like US has stepped up feeding satellite reconnaissance informations to Ukraine.
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    Post  caveat emptor Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:39 pm

    Weapons left behind in Lysychansk:

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    Post  Serberus Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:49 pm

    JohninMK wrote:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62090791

    In summary:
    “We lost Rubezhnoe, Severodonetsk, Lisichansk, but we are definitely going to hold Slovyansk”

    Sure you will mate. Just another piece of garbage propaganda from the  bbc riddled with high amounts of copium

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    Post  Isos Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:00 pm

    Before :

    “Maybe the war could have been avoided if Zelensky had been forced to pledge that his country would not join NATO, or had been forced to grant a high degree of autonomy to Luhansk and Donetsk in the east,” Abe noted, according to ‘The Economist

    After:

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    Post  kvs Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:01 pm

    It says a lot about the average memory span of the typical NATzO mass media consumer that pure drivel can
    pass off as information. The BBC will still be around several months from now when Donetsk Republic is fully
    cleared of Kiev muppets. They will be spewing some other BS to maintain the "narrative". Clearly all it takes
    is to maintain the "narrative". Everything else is amorphous details.

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:02 pm

    Serberus wrote:
    Sure you will mate. Just another piece of garbage propaganda from the  bbc riddled with high amounts of copium

    The most bizarre part of the whole story is that they are being kept lying and wrong again and again, still nobody cares.
    Just make another big, thick lie, and air. And repeat. And repeat.
    And there is another part of the world. The serious one. That just watches from a side and makes its own judgments.

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    Post  kvs Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:04 pm

    So Abe was politically assassinated by some Jap muppet of the US. The US has bought completely Japanese "nationalists".
    It also runs the yakuza as enforcers for its colonial plantation.

    BTW, the US tried to set up a Russian mafia to fulfill the same role.

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:13 pm

    Serberus wrote:
    In summary:
    “We lost Rubezhnoe, Severodonetsk, Lisichansk, but we are definitely going to hold Slovyansk”

    Sure you will mate. Just another piece of garbage propaganda from the  bbc riddled with high amounts of copium

    The guy has a paycheck and generous expenses to protect which colours his reporting.

    Look what happened to that German freelancer in Donetsk. Report reality and lose.

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:18 pm

    kvs wrote:So Abe was politically assassinated by some Jap muppet of the US.   The US has bought completely Japanese "nationalists".
    It also runs the yakuza as enforcers for its colonial plantation.

    BTW, the US tried to set up a Russian mafia to fulfill the same role.  

    Boris stepped out of line publicly at the G7, suggesting that they do something about the oncoming food crisis, got stamped on there and now out.

    We are expected to swallow that everything everywhere is a coincidence.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:25 pm

    JohninMK wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62090791

    Downvoted cuz its BBC. Don't care about the story... don't care what it says. Its enemy regime agitprop and shouldn't be posted here.

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    Post  Isos Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:37 pm

    https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1545290311446007809

    So much propaganda about ukrainian farmers that they forgot their own farmers that are going deeply in debt. In France everyday one farmer kill himself because they can't survive anymore.



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    Post  Broski Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:09 pm

    LMFS wrote:It is important that at the moment not a single politician and official in Poland has proposed to sit down at the negotiating table and discuss de-escalation. This once again indicates that the Polish political elites have chosen an exclusively confrontational agenda and believe that the crisis can only be resolved by military means.
    They're correct, once Russian and Belarusian forces destroy the Polish airforce and navy in the first 24 hours, the artillery and tank men will be easy pickings until the dumb polacks sue for peace. People don't understand that the Ukraine was the most well armed and well positioned military in Europe to take on Russia, and look what happened anyway? It's laughable.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:20 pm

    Kremlin clarifies Putin’s remark on Ukraine

    Russia is using ‘only a fraction’ of its military capability in the neighboring country, spokesman said

       


    President Vladimir Putin’s observation that Russian troops in Ukraine “haven’t even really started anything yet” simply states that Moscow is far superior in its military strength, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov clarified on Friday.

    On Thursday, Putin dared Western leaders who seek Russia’s defeat on the battlefield in Ukraine to deliver on the threat. “Let them try. We haven’t even really started anything yet,” he claimed.

    The president “simply reminded [his audience] that the military potentials [of Ukraine and Russia] were incommensurable,” Peskov said.

    “Russian strength is so vast that only a small fraction of it is engaged in the special military operation,” the official said.

    Western expectations that Ukraine can defeat Russia militarily are “absurd and only add to the suffering of the Ukrainian people,” he added.


    Mobilization isn't needed, only a fraction of forces are even there Russia has 200,000 to 300,000 additional ground forces able to deploy without conscription

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