Off Topic stuff from Ukraine Police action thread

caveat emptor wrote:

limb wrote:

Podlodka77 wrote:

limb wrote:The reason russia needs aircraft to fly deep into ukrainian territory is to detect with FLIR ukrainian convoys and artillery on the move.


I also am convinced that sweden will dump most of its BILL ATGMs. Im surprised we dont see many swedish weapons in ukrainian hands given that sweden is one of the most russophobic countries in the world.

The greatest evil on planet Earth is England and I consider them to be Russia's greatest enemies within Europe.
The French certainly don't like Russia, but I'm sure that picture is better than in England (especially) and Germany.
The weakness of Italy is obvious, because only Macron and Scholz appear in the media.
I will not comment on Poland, because that country is digging its own grave. Their hatred of Russia is for mental institutions.
It is obvious that Hungary is not Russophobic, since Orban stated even before the elections that Hungary will not supply weapons to Ukraine and that Hungary will not allow the transport of NATO weapons through Ukraine. I am sure that they are not Russophobic for Serbia, Greece and Northern Macedonia. Bulgarians are assholes, they always have been, but there are also a large number of people who are not Russophobic. The greatest Russophobes are in those countries that lost wars to Russia and are close to Russia; Poland, Germany, Finland, Sweden. Croats HATE Russia because Russians are Orthodox, as are we Serbs.
Everyone else is more or less Russophobic. I don't trust the Czechs at all, because I have more confidence in Slovakia and Austria.
Spain and Portugal; I don't think they dont care. Just follow what Brussels says. They are far away. They are like Neptune in the solar system, far from Russia.

All in all, I don't think southern Europe is Russophobic; Italy, Spain and Portugal. The Romanic peoples are overwhelmingly different. I don't count France here, though.
The same is true for most Balkan countries, except Romania, which, like Poland, is digging its own grave. Problems with russophobia go from France to Finland.

Bulgarians wouldn't have been russophobic if they supported bulgaria instead of serbia, greece and romania in the second balkan war, didnt encourage king Milan to attack bulgaria for liberating its land from the turks,  and didn't encourage the brainwashing of bulgarians in macedonia. Basically the fake macedonian ethniocity was a russo-serbian project, which is a shame, because macedonians and macedonian history are even more fake than ukrainians.

You have your timeline and reasons little mixed up there buddy. 
King Milan was from Obrenović dynasty, which was alligned to KuK monarchy during his time. His attack on Bulgaria in 1885. ( not the best moment in our history) was due to Bulgarian annexation of Eastern Rumelia. Bulgaria was formed by Russia in 1878 after Russo-Turkish war and, at the time of unification was viewed as Russian client state.
Attack of Serbia was partly because of perceived fear of king Milan that Bulgaria will strengthen too much and part from fear of KuK monarchy that Russia will become to strong in that part of Europe and that will enhance their chance to  claim Istanbul and sea connection btw Mediterranean and Black sea.
Second Balkan war happened almost 30 years later, in 1913, when Bulgaria wasn't happy with post First Balkan war divide of territories. Bulgaria, under Koburg dynasty at the time, wanted to solve that by war. Serbia, under Karadjordjevic dynasty was atm much more aligned with Russia and France. Greece wanted to consolidate their new gains in the north and Romania had its eyes on Dobrudja. Result of the war was that Bulgaria lost and with that lost territories it got in First Balkan war. Turkey seized opportunity and pushed them further from Istanbul and retake Edirne. Romanians took Dobruja.
Macedonian nation, if you will, was largely created by post WW2 Yugoslavia ( movement traced its beginnings before that). Both Serbia and Bulgaria wanted to present Slavic people living there as their own compatriots. Greeks simply expelled or assimilated them.

Bulgaria in 1885 was far from a russian client state. Bulgaria unified its territory against the wishes of Aleksandr III. Aleksandr III greenlit Milan's invasion because he viewed bulgaria as a threat to russian imperial designs on constantinople. Eastern Rumelia was nothing more than part of the Bulgarian heartland which was unjustly given back to the turks after the russians liberated it by demand of the Berlin Congress. Bulgarians view Russia as a betrayer for vehemently opposing taking back eastern Rumelia, Thrace and makedonsko.

If you ask that Bulgarians forgive serbs for what they did in 1885 because their king was a western puppet, why don't serbs forgive Bulgaria for trying to take back Bulgarian land in 1915 because the Bulgarian tsar was german?

Bulgaria wasn't happy with the divide of territories because serbs and greeks decided to occupy southwestern Bulgarian lands when they were blocked by Italy and Austrohungary from taking Albania. Regardless of how incompetent or uncompromising the Bulgarian tsar was, Russia took the side of Greece, Romania and Serbia. What would you expect, the Bulgarians to be grateful to Russia? In fact, even during the 1st Balkan war, Russia was diplomatically very hostile to Bulgaria because it viewed Bulgarian  advances past Odrin to be a threat to its ambitions on Constantinople, and viewed a unified Bulgaria as a threat to its influence in the Balkans rather than an ally.

Russia also greenlit Romania in stealing Dobrudja , when it could have threatened the Romanians not to intervene. All that perception of being a russian client state for nothing.

Stalin actively encouraged Tito to brainwash macedonian bulgarians, and the "macedonian" history was fabricated by serbian professors in Belgrade with retardation such as Kiril and Metodi being macedonian. Yugoslavs went from trying to brainwash Bulgarians into thinking they're Serbs to making them believe that theyre a made up ethnicity, because the former failed after the second balkan war.

There were no Slavic people in the macedonian geographical area. There were bulgarians, speaking a bulgarian dialect very different from the serbocroatian language, just like there were no slavic people in the ukraine. The ukraine had russians.


In short, russia always supported the idea of greater Serbia and Greece, but always opposed bulgaria unifying bulgarian land which Russia was  supposedly ok with in the first place in the treaty of San Stefano.

Funny, Russia always supported Serbia, Greece and Romania against Bulgaria, yet look at these 3 states now. The former betrayed russia right after WW1 AND WW2 , the second genocided rrussians in the ukraine and eternally hates Russians, and the 3rd is a cowardly NATO puppet. Yet Bulgarians are the ultimate "backstabbers" or "ungreatful betrayers" of Russia .

Paging Garry

What has this lot got to do with this thread? Surely Talking bollocks or similar beckons?

I agree JohninMK.
@limb
You are looking at the history too emotionally and obviously through a Bulgarian lense. Bit, this is not the place for me to discuss further. At least, we can conclude with certainty that limb is our neighbor from Bulgaria.

JohninMK wrote:Paging Garry

What has this lot got to do with this thread? Surely Talking bollocks or similar beckons?

So it's ok for the resident Serbs and Russians here to constantly talk about Yugoslavian history on this thread, while being flabbergasted why Bulgaria would dare not support Russia every time, calling Bulgarians ungrateful backstabbers,  but if a Bulgarian  dares make a comparison about both the Macedonian and Ukrainian regions bring purely geographical  entities with fabricated ethnicities, it's off topic.

I will also say that Bulgaria is the Russia of the Balkans not Serbia. Bulgaria like Russia created enemies out of every single one of it's neighbors and great powers simply for  trying to unite Bulgarian land, just like Russia has historical ly been demonized for uniting the lands of Kievan Rus. Like with Russia, Bulgaria's only allies are it's army, air force and navy, at least before it became a Soviet and then NATO client state.
Why arent the Russian and Serbs here not as butthurt about Romania and Greece being far more antiRussian than Bulgaria, and "backstabbing" Serbia and Russia?


And for the record, yes I have Bulgarian ancestry but am living in the US.

limb wrote:...I will also say that Bulgaria is the Russia of the Balkans not Serbia. Bulgaria like Russia created enemies out of every single one of it's neighbors and great powers simply for trying to unite Bulgarian land, just like Russia has historical ly been demonized for uniting the lands of Kievan Rus. Like with Russia, Bulgaria's only allies are it's army, air force and navy, at least before it became a Soviet and then NATO client state.
Why arent the Russian and Serbs here not as butthurt about Romania and Greece being far more antiRussian than Bulgaria, and "backstabbing" Serbia and Russia?...

Dude, I don't know if you ever been to the old country but Bulgaria didn't have beef with anyone here since WW1 ended

You are arguing over something that's been buried and forgotten for over a century

Only issues Bulgaria has that I know of is with Macedonia over some of their stuff that I honestly couldn't be arsed to read up on and maybe possibly something with​ Turkey (but don't quote me on that second part)



Only Bulgarians I seen myself was when I traveled down to Nis and it was this bus full of​ tourists coming there to do shopping and sightseeing who seemed to be having a good time

Scorpius wrote:

Backman wrote:

Russia should have been running Ukraine the way the US runs the world ever since 1991

Then how would Russia differ from the United States?

Very easy. The values ​​for which one fights and defends. The religious tradition, the natural and moral order, a multipolar international system for all peoples.
The West represents the very opposite of what Russia is fighting for: atheism, consumerist materialism, hedonism, multiculturalism, unipolar world government. This is a war between two worldviews and ways of life, my friend.

But to achieve that and defeat the enemies, you have to use all the means at your disposal.

ArgentinaGuard wrote:
Could someone explain to me the reasoning of the Ukrainian Nazis?
Do they follow a Jewish leader, want to be part of Western Europe (full of immigrants) but hate Russia (brother country) that has a conservative president and one of the most beautiful reserves of white women in the world?
They are idiots, poor people.

No, the propaganda they have been fed with lead them to such a hatred towards Russia and all russian(s) that they amputate every finger,arm and leg just to inflict  a scratch to the bear.

The hopes to join NATO and EU are fed with promises of better lifes which majority of citizens in western countries do not have themselves. The same people who want to join NATO and EU have been told for many years that Russia is holding Ukrainians back, that they want them as slaves and if not for Russia the Ukraine would be already in 22th century while the Russians have to steal toilets, microwave ovens, TVs, Smartphones to make them little bit comfy in their caves.

I mean what can you expect from people who believe a country like Russia has no toilets in their apartments or houses, but can shoot people to outer space, strike anywhere everywhere they want with PGMs. I mean there is no logic to follow it is evidently "doublethink" which the West has preached for decades with the sentiment "Russia is falling apart" but so "dangerous they will invade any second now".

It's mental gymnastics, emotional superiority complex which they are thought in schools with their 140.000 years of civilization. You heard about the Out-of-Africa-origin thesis? No, all bullshit we all originated from the territory of 404 and the Ukrainians are genetically pure and the oldest, wisest and purest thing that walked the earth.

The history they have written to this population was raised to be "exceptional" which we know leads to nationalism or national socialism. We have enough examples in history what any form of exceptionalism will lead to justification of any evil for a pure and good divine cause! US, Nazi-Germany, Israel and now the Ukraine.

ArgentinaGuard wrote:

Scorpius wrote:

Backman wrote:

Russia should have been running Ukraine the way the US runs the world ever since 1991

Then how would Russia differ from the United States?

Very easy. The values ​​for which one fights and defends. The religious tradition, the natural and moral order, a multipolar international system for all peoples.
The West represents the very opposite of what Russia is fighting for: atheism, consumerist materialism, hedonism, multiculturalism, unipolar world government. This is a war between two worldviews and ways of life, my friend.

But to achieve that and defeat the enemies, you have to use all the means at your disposal.

I am an atheist, a descendant of Old Believers who were killed by thousands of Orthodox heretics. Why do you expect me to approve of some "values" that have nothing to do with my worldview? Also, millions of people in Russia
1. are not believers;
2. are supporters of socialism.

So the option you proposed is not a solution.

From my perspective I truly believe that the woke society is a growing cancer that needs to be removed. Whether you are religious or not doesn't really matter when you need to cure a malignant disease like this.

Scorpius wrote:

ArgentinaGuard wrote:

Scorpius wrote:

Backman wrote:

Russia should have been running Ukraine the way the US runs the world ever since 1991

Then how would Russia differ from the United States?

Very easy. The values ​​for which one fights and defends. The religious tradition, the natural and moral order, a multipolar international system for all peoples.
The West represents the very opposite of what Russia is fighting for: atheism, consumerist materialism, hedonism, multiculturalism, unipolar world government. This is a war between two worldviews and ways of life, my friend.

But to achieve that and defeat the enemies, you have to use all the means at your disposal.

I am an atheist, a descendant of Old Believers who were killed by thousands of Orthodox heretics. Why do you expect me to approve of some "values" that have nothing to do with my worldview? Also, millions of people in Russia
1. are not believers;
2. are supporters of socialism.

So the option you proposed is not a solution.

What do you live for then, antichrist ?
Argentinaguard wrote everything to you exactly word for word, because Russia is fighting for exactly what he wrote.
If religion is irrelevant to you, give your son the name Muhammad or Sinan. And who cares about your worldview ? I see that you are crying for a fictional nation (Soviets), as well as a fictional state - the USSR.
It’s not just about religion, of course, but it goes much deeper. Socialism did not create the Russian state. Socialism did not create the Russian language. And if you thought about it, you would probably understand that it was the Russian Orthodox Church that created this Russian people - which is different from the West.
Tsarist Russia, not your communists and atheists, created Russia as it is.
Socialism has NEVER succeeded in practice, because even in Roman times the Roman emperor and the Roman senate lived well, while the common people were happy to get bread while watching the gladiators in the Colosseum.
Atheist and antichrist, from today you are on the block list.

Get away from Podlodka, he's about to blow!

Podlodka77 wrote:
Atheist and antichrist, from today you are on the block list.

I see you will fit right in with the hard core practitioners of the so-called "Cancel Culture"

flamming_python wrote:Get away from Podlodka, he's about to blow!

You exploded long ago and you are a man whose lyrics change tone from day to day.
I stand behind my words that the communists in the USSR killed as many of their own people as the Nazis killed the Russians. For the Russians, the Communists were just as devastating as the Nazis.
And remember forever that Russia has existed in one way or another since at least 882, while UTOPIA called the USSR and the "Soviets" ended up where it should be - in the sewers. Unlike the communists who glorify the "Soviet" victory in the Second World War, I know and claim that it was a victory for the Russian people.


And don't reply to me anymore, because the opinion of a man who changes his attitude every day is not relevant to me.

Podlodka77 wrote:
What do you live for then, antichrist ?
Argentinaguard wrote everything to you exactly word for word, because Russia is fighting for exactly what he wrote.
If religion is irrelevant to you, give your son the name Muhammad or Sinan. And who cares about your worldview ? I see that you are crying for a fictional nation (Soviets), as well as a fictional state - the USSR.
It’s not just about religion, of course, but it goes much deeper. Socialism did not create the Russian state. Socialism did not create the Russian language. And if you thought about it, you would probably understand that it was the Russian Orthodox Church that created this Russian people - which is different from the West.
Tsarist Russia, not your communists and atheists, created Russia as it is.
Socialism has NEVER succeeded in practice, because even in Roman times the Roman emperor and the Roman senate lived well, while the common people were happy to get bread while watching the gladiators in the Colosseum.
Atheist and antichrist, from today you are on the block list.

Try to say something like that to me at a meeting - and I will send you to the hospital for a long treatment. Just a warning.

Mir wrote:

Podlodka77 wrote:
Atheist and antichrist, from today you are on the block list.

I see you will fit right in with the hard core practitioners of the so-called "Cancel Culture"

How many millions of people died unnecessarily because of the red plague that Lenin brought in the civil war in Russia ?
How many people did Stalin and Lenin kill in purges, starvation? How many millions of people died unnecessarily in World War II because of the idiot Stalin and his disbelief in the attack on the USSR? Tens of thousands of officers were killed in purges before World War II. And what are you, the same as him, selling me a "trick" about socialism and atheism ?

I don't know what you "see", but Argentinaguard wrote everything I think. I'm not a stubborn believer, but I don't like atheists. And ? If you are a communist (socialist), then you and I have nothing to write about. For me, communists are the same as Nazis, and whoever writes that the Soviet Union won World War II and not Russia, I will block it. Did "Ukrainians", Lithuanians and Moldovans fight for Stalingrad, Moscow, Leningrad ? Communists and Nazis are the same "either you are with us or you go to the Gulag". If you're like him, write to me so I can block you too.

Scorpius wrote:

Podlodka77 wrote:
What do you live for then, antichrist ?
Argentinaguard wrote everything to you exactly word for word, because Russia is fighting for exactly what he wrote.
If religion is irrelevant to you, give your son the name Muhammad or Sinan. And who cares about your worldview ? I see that you are crying for a fictional nation (Soviets), as well as a fictional state - the USSR.
It’s not just about religion, of course, but it goes much deeper. Socialism did not create the Russian state. Socialism did not create the Russian language. And if you thought about it, you would probably understand that it was the Russian Orthodox Church that created this Russian people - which is different from the West.
Tsarist Russia, not your communists and atheists, created Russia as it is.
Socialism has NEVER succeeded in practice, because even in Roman times the Roman emperor and the Roman senate lived well, while the common people were happy to get bread while watching the gladiators in the Colosseum.
Atheist and antichrist, from today you are on the block list.

Try to say something like that to me at a meeting - and I will send you to the hospital for a long treatment. Just a warning.

When was the lion afraid of the scorpion ? Never !

Podlodka77 wrote:

Scorpius wrote:...
Try to say something like that to me at a meeting - and I will send you to the hospital for a long treatment. Just a warning.

When was the lion afraid of the scorpion ? Never !

You two little shits sound like those little brats that I send to principal's office

Scorpius wrote:

ArgentinaGuard wrote:

Scorpius wrote:

Backman wrote:

Russia should have been running Ukraine the way the US runs the world ever since 1991

Then how would Russia differ from the United States?

disposal.

I am an atheist, a descendant of Old Believers who were killed by thousands of Orthodox heretics. Why do you expect me to approve of some "values" that have nothing to do with my worldview? Also, millions of people in Russia
1. are not believers;
2. are supporters of socialism.

So the option you proposed is not a solution.

The old industrial leftists were socially conservative. Considering the paradigm that the west is devolved to now , Lenin would be considered right wing if he was around today.

Podlodka77 wrote:

How many millions of people died unnecessarily because of the red plague that Lenin brought in the civil war in Russia ?
How many people did Stalin and Lenin kill in purges, starvation? How many millions of people died unnecessarily in World War II because of the idiot Stalin and his disbelief in the attack on the USSR? Tens of thousands of officers were killed in purges before World War II. And what are you, the same as him, selling me a "trick" about socialism and atheism ?

I don't know what you "see", but Argentinaguard wrote everything I think. I'm not a stubborn believer, but I don't like atheists. And ? If you are a communist (socialist), then you and I have nothing to write about. For me, communists are the same as Nazis, and whoever writes that the Soviet Union won World War II and not Russia, I will block it. Did "Ukrainians", Lithuanians and Moldovans fight for Stalingrad, Moscow, Leningrad ? Communists and Nazis are the same "either you are with us or you go to the Gulag". If you're like him, write to me so I can block you too.

Very short and quick reply! >>
How many do you think? 20 million? 40 million or even 60 million!?
If you believe those figures you have been duped by the same people you are so vigorously "fighting" against in the Ukraine.
It is known since before the French Revolution that people will die during the revolutionary process. It is always a bloody affair but it is quite necessary to cut the cancer out.

During the Red Terror period after the October Revolution about a 100 000 people were executed and during Stalin's purges, about 1.8 million people were exterminated under his "Stalinist" reign. These figures are from reliable sources and scholars. The many deaths that occurred during the great famine periods were mostly used in the West as propaganda against the Soviets. The Soviet Union lost 20-27 million people during the Great Patriotic War.

Podlodka77 wrote:[quote


Socialism has NEVER succeeded in practice.
Atheist and antichrist, from today you are on the block list.

I used to be a big believer in capitalism et al. But as we can see with the Western economies in the last 10 years , you can totally miss the mark with a nominally capitalist system too. That should humble you a little before you go on about now bad the Soviet economy was.

Ah. But the last 10+ years isn't real capitalism you might say. That's what the socialists say too. Not real socialism.

Backman wrote:

Podlodka77 wrote:[quote


Socialism has NEVER succeeded in practice.
Atheist and antichrist, from today you are on the block list.

I used to be a big believer in capitalism et al. But as we can see with the Western economies in the last 10 years , you can totally miss the mark with a nominally capitalist system too. That should humble you a little before you go on about now bad the Soviet economy was.

Ah. But the last 10+ years isn't real capitalism you might say. That's what the socialists say too. Not real socialism.

No Backman, it's not about the economy, it's about millions of Russians who died unnecessarily for the red disease.
Capitalism is the greatest evil, but it cannot be eradicated, because it is in human nature - many are greedy and want everything for themselves.
I did not even mention this rotten Western liberal capitalism, because it is also heavy garbage, but I wrote about how many Russians suffered unnecessarily because of that Lenin plague. Capitalism cannot be eradicated in one way or another. Is it good ? No, it is not, but it cannot be eradicated. I gave the example of the Roman Empire. While the Roman Emperor and his senate had everything, what did an ordinary Roman citizen have ? Nothing ! It is also capitalism, only it was not called that then.
In the West today, there is communist rule, total unanimity, which is supported and produced by those who hold the strings in their hands. And the goal is the survival of liberal capitalism and total unanimity in the whole world.


This question is not for you, but for the followers of the Red Plague; If these Soviets have already "won" the Second World War, then why is no one in Russia today declaring itself as a Soviet ? And then what sustained that "new" state, which inherited the USSR ? That state was maintained by what it was before the USSR - Russia and the Russian people.

GarryB wrote:

In Polish shitstream media I heard thet the court is illegal, this was farse because Russians were behind that and is not recognized internationally (reads: by US/UK) they were just Ukro soldiers and are protected by convention. And British govt is in a delicate situation since talking to Russians would be equal to admit that they WERE mercenaries . How censorship let it go idk tbh

It is illegal because they don't recognise the Donbass as a separate entity from the Ukraine... it would be like saying Kosovo is still part of Serbia so any declarations of independence of court rulings in Kosovo are illegal and have no basis in law internationally... UNSC resolution 1244 states that Kosovo is an indivisible part of Serbia... which backs up that status as illegal under international law, but with the Donbass... well the men are in their custody and Kiev doesn't give a shit about these men and the UK want to pretend it is not involved even though it already supplies weapons to one side and also other higher ranking mercenaries that will likely be revealed later on... maybe some SAS members...

That said lets pretend its true and it means frontline work, I suspect its not a matter of running out of men but rather putting women there to make the Russians males just stand down.

No man will enjoy killing a bunch of women and many would refuse to do their duty if it meant doing that.

War is about mind games just as much as its about killing

If they are carrying guns then why not kill them?

Besides, most of the kills are being acheived by artillery anyway... and artillery don't care what is between your legs...

They should offer a prisoner swap - the two British mercenaries for the release of journalist Julian Assange held in British prison. Makes for a little cognitive dissonance and some uncomfortable conversations in the West.

The west has made Assange an enemy but he is no friend of Russia. Besides.... they are not Russias prisoners to swap...

Also, you might think that Spečial service soldier would know more about engagements

Even if it was a special forces team watching an enemy artillery unit and they notice half are women... are they going to stand up and walk away?

Of course they are going to shoot them all before they can fire and then capture anything worth capturing and leave because that is what they do.

How long before DPR and LPR get Frog supplied artillery?

How long before Russia will get a chance to inspect Frog supplied artillery you mean... the DPR and LPR could care less...

What could US gain from this?

Not working for me but the only hypersonic missile the Russians have fired at Ukraine was Kinzhal, which is a solid rocket powered weapon they probably can't learn that much about really...

Could someone explain to me the reasoning of the Ukrainian Nazis?

He has no power, the nazis are in control... he is just there so they can say that we can't be nazi because our leader is a jew.

He won the election promising better relations with Russia and no war and solving the problems in the Donbass with diplomacy and once he was elected it seems he has doubled down on the planned invasion and open hostility towards Russia.

I do not agree. Proposing the release of Assange would be a master move that would generate a lot of support for Russia.
And both he and Snowden have been good allies in exposing all information from Western governments and leaders.


Ukrainian Nazism is simple hatred of Russia and functionality to an international Zionism.
it doesn't make any sense. If you are a Nazi, you are supposed to care about the white race and its culture. Who defends you better? Putin's Russia or the United States and Western Europe. The answer is very obvious. Putin has been one of the few European leaders to talk about the birth problem. If you really care about the race you should pay attention to a leader who thinks like that. That is why abortion and homosexual propaganda have been one of his criticisms. That is why it has limited immigration and I am sure that the Russians have much more ethnic awareness than the rest of the Europeans, who have lost it after decades of multiculturalism.
Putin, without saying it openly (because it would be frowned upon), is the only European leader who defends the white race.

Mir wrote:

Podlodka77 wrote:

How many millions of people died unnecessarily because of the red plague that Lenin brought in the civil war in Russia ?
How many people did Stalin and Lenin kill in purges, starvation? How many millions of people died unnecessarily in World War II because of the idiot Stalin and his disbelief in the attack on the USSR? Tens of thousands of officers were killed in purges before World War II. And what are you, the same as him, selling me a "trick" about socialism and atheism ?

I don't know what you "see", but Argentinaguard wrote everything I think. I'm not a stubborn believer, but I don't like atheists. And ? If you are a communist (socialist), then you and I have nothing to write about. For me, communists are the same as Nazis, and whoever writes that the Soviet Union won World War II and not Russia, I will block it. Did "Ukrainians", Lithuanians and Moldovans fight for Stalingrad, Moscow, Leningrad ? Communists and Nazis are the same "either you are with us or you go to the Gulag". If you're like him, write to me so I can block you too.

Very short and quick reply! >>
How many do you think? 20 million? 40 million or even 60 million!?
If you believe those figures you have been duped by the same people you are so vigorously "fighting" against in the Ukraine.
It is known since before the French Revolution that people will die during the revolutionary process. It is always a bloody affair but it is quite necessary to cut the cancer out.

During the Red Terror period after the October Revolution about a 100 000 people were executed and during Stalin's purges, about 1.8 million people were exterminated under his "Stalinist" reign. These figures are from reliable sources and scholars. The many deaths that occurred during the great famine periods were mostly used in the West as propaganda against the Soviets. The Soviet Union lost 20-27 million people during the Great Patriotic War.

We will not talk about it anymore, except that I will write to you that the Russian civil war is the greatest evil that has ever hit Russia. Ever !
And after that, Stalin comes and many millions more will die. And for what ? Those stories that Russia became a nuclear power thanks to Stalin are nonsense, because Russia would have become that without him. The Russian Empire was not a retard empire and left behind the largest state on the planet, did it ? Yes ! The essence is that Russia destroyed communism, and that is better and more important than the victory over the Nazis. MIR, I appreciate many of your publications, but do not write with me about the Communists, because they were justifiably destroyed by those to whom the Communists stole the state - the Russians.

Podlodka77 wrote:

...the Russian civil war is the greatest evil that has ever hit Russia. Ever !

I will leave you with these wise words >>

The affluence of the few is closely tied to the misery of the masses.