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    Post  Podlodka77 Thu May 26, 2022 11:29 am

    Sujoy wrote:These pollsters will be in great demand in many parts of the world. A bit of care in editing would help though. For example, the Russia occupied part should be dropped, as people will think Russians are so liberal that they freely allowed such pollsters access. Counters other necessary truths.


    In a country where all pro-Russian parties are banned and where the Russian language is banned ?
    I do not believe in the accuracy of the poll, especially since it is from the BBC, but I rather believe that the number is around 50 to 60%. That number will fall further after the military defeat.
    I have already written that I think that at least half of Ukraine is permanently and forever out of the reach for Russia. These are shitheads that Russia DOES NOT NEED, because those same shit want the Ukrainian language and their "own" church. Russia and the Russian state do not need such garbage to spread across Russia in a few decades.
    Are you aware that in such a situation and with such freaks, the Ukrainian language would spread throughout Russia? Russia has a basis that will break up Ukraine, that is, an army that will return to the Ukrainians (after the defeat that Ukraine will inevitably experience) a complex of lower values ​​and disappointment in the West.

    All illusions about joining the NATO pact, which will come after the defeat, will be shattered in that NAZI shithole Kiev.
    All illusions about the goodwill of the West towards what is left of Ukraine, which will come after the military defeat, will be shattered.
    Megalomania about occupying territories and regions is not necessary, it is necessary to kill as many Ukrainians as possible - literally. Ukrainians ready to fight against Russia should be systematically killed, like worms - that's all. Russia should trample on all those who are ready to say "Glory to Ukraine", kill every last one who is ready to say so. RUSSIA IS DOING IT VERY WELL.

    And for liberal idiots, I let them talk about "brotherhood". There is no brotherhood here, but the basis of everything is military defeat, because military defeat brings the main thing to Ukraine - denazification. And then, in the years to come, there will be sobriety. The love of Ukrainians who do not want to be with Russia is not needed at all, but sobriety will surely come.
    And then that retarded half of Ukraine will get a "state", which will most likely no longer have access to the sea, a ruined economy and a ruined industry and road and housing infrastructure. And after all this, the same decline in morale will be felt by the West.
    They will tell themselves in the West the following; "We smoked Russian sausage again."

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    Post  Hole Thu May 26, 2022 12:35 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    ArgentinaGuard wrote:Friends, I have a question. There are media that are misinforming but I ask the specialists.
    Does Russia have the capacity to supply its precision weapons that it has used in large numbers? is it autonomous in this sense? How are your factories working?

    Ask yourself, how they could obtain those numbers of precision missiles, not having a whole industry producing them?
    For the last 20 years, they have made a quantum jump increasing the numbers by a factor of about a hundred, and spent the last 8 years replacing all the parts they needed to import. Someone who questions the capability of producing huge numbers of ammo is either stupid or has an agenda in mind.

    sepheronx wrote:

    Well, it's a very small contingent so if it's to go into Ukraine, they would be wiped out very quickly. Which leads me to believe there is possibly planned "exercises" right near the border area.

    A few IFV's and some transport vehicles I saw. So less than what, 50 men?

    There are NATO maneuvers all over Europe at the moment. Defender Europe and Swift Response. Ending today.

    Swift Response. So it needed only 2 years of preparation? Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  ALAMO Thu May 26, 2022 1:50 pm

    Hole wrote:

    Swift Response. So it needed only 2 years of preparation? Laughing Laughing Laughing

    Naaah, both are being organized yearly basis.
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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Thu May 26, 2022 1:53 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    My question was also what exactly systems can be seen in the picture?

    Why post such information? Are you trying to help the Orcs plan their next attack?

    The defence could easily be boosted by having a corvette approach the area which is the equivalent of a decent AESA radar array plus S-350 battery plus guns and other missiles that is fully mobile and therefore tricky to hit.

    Those locations for the vehicles means nothing too... they are vehicles and the TOR and Pantsir can actually even fire while moving...
    Listen to see enemies, trolls or orcs everywhere just because you ask critically or want to know what's going on?

    The orcs know exactly what is on the island.
    You seriously claim that if you say what can be seen in the picture that this would help the orcs?

    Then we can close the forum. NATO's military education will certainly know exactly what is up to date and what is not. This is not secret forum. Your answer is ridiculous.

    In the interview, see Rob Lee, there is more information than in this forum. These are information that the enemy should not have as confirmation. Here in the forum, a question about the island, what is there is no secret. But it better helps us get an understanding of the situation. That is the meaning of such a Milirary Forum!
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    Post  Sujoy Thu May 26, 2022 6:29 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Prague, Czech Republic — shops in Prague are displaying signs “Ukrainians not allowed to enter” as they complain about their behaviour and constant theft. Many Landlords in the Czech Republic also specifically state they will not accept Ukrainian refugees as many apartments were reported vandalized with swastikas, robbed and destroyed.

    https://t.me/asbmil/1655
    Unfortunately for the Ukrainians they are realizing it the hard way that they chose the wrong side, the West and its allies like Czech were never pro Ukraine. The only country that was a friend was Russia and probably still is.

    Reminds me of my first visit to the U.K back in the early 80s. We couldn't get a house to rent even for just 6 months. There used to be signs in windows of people's homes, offices reading "No Blacks, No Indians, No Dogs".

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    Post  Backman Fri May 27, 2022 1:42 am

    ^ Those kinds of polls and Kievs rhetoric makes decisions easy for Russia. Expand the war.

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    Post  lyle6 Fri May 27, 2022 2:07 am

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    I told all y’all already that Dmitry is fuckin' crazy

    If he were running the show VKS would have been doing Rolling Thunder all over Ukrop asses for months now  Cool

    Ukrainians curse Putin when in fact they should be sending him thank you notes and wishes for good health and long life
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Fri May 27, 2022 2:12 am

    lyle6 wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    I told all y’all already that Dmitry is fuckin' crazy

    If he were running the show VKS would have been doing Rolling Thunder all over Ukrop asses for months now  Cool

    Ukrainians curse Putin when in fact they should be sending him thank you notes and wishes for good health and long life
    Medvedev is DARK NICHOLAS II confirmed:

    meeh, what about playing good Vlad and bad Dima ?

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    Post  sepheronx Fri May 27, 2022 2:26 am

    Backman wrote:^ Those kinds of polls and Kievs rhetoric makes decisions easy for Russia. Expand the war.

    So how did Kiev pollsters interview or ask Ukrainians in "occupied" territories?

    Gives me indication it's all bullshit.

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    Post  lancelot Fri May 27, 2022 2:55 am

    Scorpius wrote:1. It was not the Bolsheviks who destroyed the Russian Empire. They were collecting the fragments of the collapsed state into what became the USSR.
    2. It was not the Bolsheviks who started the Civil War on the territory of the former Russian Empire.
    3. Stalin was one of the Bolsheviks, and one of Lenin's closest associates.
    4. The Trotskyists were a RADICAL wing, a considerable part of the time after the Civil War was spent on getting rid of their influence.
    5. Industrialization did not begin in the thirties. The GOELRO plan, a lot of decrees on the establishment of scientific and industrial programs - it was all BEFORE Stalin's industrialization. Soviet nuclear research began in 1918, with the establishment of the Radium Institute, for example.
    6. Lenin was the ideologist of the creation of the USSR, a state that became a superpower. Without Lenin, this whole territory would have remained a bunch of scattered fragments of the former Russian Empire - only without industrialization and social equality. So Lenin did not "plant a bomb under the Russian state" - he POSTPONED for almost 100 years the processes that are being implemented now by the forces of the oligarchic bourgeoisie (whose interests are represented by Putin, I remind you).
    Finally, shifting responsibility for the current situation onto the shoulders of a man who died almost 100 years ago looks like a pathetic attempt to justify his own inability to show at least remotely similar results. To begin with, there are some questions: why, when accusing Lenin, do we simultaneously see the sacralization of Nicholas II - a pathetic rag who dragged Russia into two imperialist wars, was unable to carry out reforms and brought the country to collapse and Civil War?  Russia had more than 20 years to settle political problems with the CIS states, why was Putin unable to solve the problem - even though Lenin started from the worst positions and in FIVE YEARS created the USSR from a handful of republics at war with each other? If Lenin so "planted a bomb", then what can we say about the results of Putin's activities?

    ...and contrary to what you want to write about me now, I'm just asking you to be honest about your assessment of Russian history. Without Lenin and the Bolsheviks, there would be no Russia at all at the moment.
    The Bolsheviks signed the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk and took Russia out of WWI. That was the direct cause of the further partition of Russia and later the invasion of Russia by the Western imperialist forces.

    The GOELRO plan was achieved when Stalin was General Secretary. Stalin was the person de facto in control of GOELRO for most of its existence. The plan was conceived before he became General Secretary but he was the main driver in actually implementing it. From what I understand.

    Russia had a lot of talented scientific researchers even in imperial times. The idea Russia was backwards then is a bit of a misnomer. I also think it was overhyped by both communists and westerners alike. The overall level of economic development was low but there were pockets of excellence. And there was some industry. You had people like Sikorsky in the aviation industry, or Boris Rosing doing electronics research.

    You say Russia had better conditions to take back the USSR than Lenin did. I disagree. That chance went away after the coup against Gorbachev and the creation of the CIS. To think Putin had better chances to do this, when he was put into power right after the 1998 financial crisis and the Chechen conflict, at a time when the Soviet industry was spread all over the place, well I think it is a bit much.

    I also think you are giving Lenin credit for partially solving a mess he himself largely created.

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    Post  Backman Fri May 27, 2022 3:52 am

    ^ Interesting discussion. Both views are understandable. It was easier to nation build in the 20's when you could at the barrel of a gun. Just like Britain did. Speaking of which , I read somewhere that Russia was coerced to selling Alaska at the time. It's hard to find information about it (hmmm I wonder why)

    From what I understand , industrialists (the old word for oligarch) inside the empire in part started the civil war by funding political movements in the country to get one up on competing oligarchs. One of those movements was the Bolshevik party.

    Also, Russia was probably more developed in the monarch era than is said. Just like now.

    Considering how taboo it is to use military and move borders now , I think Putin is doing a good job. This is supposed to be the post territorial era haha.

    What other lands from the empire days are missed so much ? Other than Ukraine ?

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    Post  mnztr Fri May 27, 2022 6:01 am

    Sujoy wrote:These pollsters will be in great demand in many parts of the world. A bit of care in editing would help though. For example, the Russia occupied part should be dropped, as people will think Russians are so liberal that they freely allowed such pollsters access. Counters other necessary truths.


    Give is not the correct word. The correct word is "relinquish"

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    Post  caveat emptor Fri May 27, 2022 6:29 am

    Backman wrote:^ Interesting discussion. Both views are understandable. It was easier to nation build in the 20's when you could at the barrel of a gun. Just like Britain did. Speaking of which , I read somewhere that Russia was coerced to selling Alaska at the time. It's hard to find information about it (hmmm I wonder why)

    From what I understand , industrialists (the old word for oligarch) inside the empire in part started the civil war by funding political movements in the country to get one up on competing oligarchs. One of those movements was the Bolshevik party.

    Also, Russia was probably more developed in the monarch era than is said. Just like now.

    Considering how taboo it is to use military and move borders now , I think Putin is doing a good job. This is supposed to be the post territorial era haha.

    What other lands from the empire days are missed so much ? Other than Ukraine ?
    Northern Kazakhstan should have never been part of Kaz to begin with.

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    Post  Vann7 Fri May 27, 2022 6:42 am

    Backman wrote:Mark Sleboda was on Sputnik radio. He's a professor at the Moscow state university.

    https://sputniknews.com/20220525/nato-amplifies-arms-deliveries-to-ukraine-as-russia-advances-1095742997.html

    He says that this war could go on for years and the only solution is to remove the Zelensky regime in Kiev. I basically agree. This American regime does not care how many Ukranians die. They will try and keep the war going. If Russia takes up to the Dniper river then those civilians will just be the ones being shelled instead of the Donbas ones. Or if it takes up to 1939 borders, then whoever the civilains are in range will be shelled.

    The regime has to be removed and it is doable. It does not have to be done now. Get the Donbas done first. But the only long term chance of peace cannot involve this regime.

    The economy is holding strong and there's no reason not to do it.



    Anyone that believe that a "peace deal" is possible with ukraine are completely delusional ,
    unless that peace agreement includes zelensky and its military ordering in public  their entire troops across all ukraine to surrender to the Russian military immediately to save lives ,for  restoration of the nation to civilian life and create a new law that literary backstab all the neonazis parties and declare them a criminal and order the arrest of their leaders of neonazis.  But if zelensky do even half of that ,he will be removed by NATO , and start a coup against him ,and put a bullet on his head ,since US and UK and Brussels have too much invested money in ukraine ,to allow its president to ruin overnight all their proxy war with Russia plans .

    Any peace deal that ignores full de-militarization ,full de-natizification and de-nazification , means giving kiev and the west time , to regrop and rearm ,and get a ton of more reinforcements and weapons from the west ,and use the "peace deal" (as they did in  syria)  to send more lethal weapons and foreign soldiers into ukraine.  This is why russia will have to invade at least 90% of all
    ukraine ,to close to the last major cities bordering poland , and ultranationalist NGOs paid minions by the west ,forced out of ukraine and those zones de-weaponized , any nato or any other military grade weapon removed from those cities ,so that those weapons not used against russian soldiers by guerrilla fighters.

    Once Russia capture odessa and everything to the right of dnieper river , Russia should officially declare the cancelation of ukraine independence , given to them by soviet union in 1991  , say ,that
    ukraine independence was only given , under the guarantees that ukraine was going to be a neutral
    nation and not seek any military alliance with NATO.

    the words..

    Revocation of Ukraine Indepence , should be underlined in any major discourses by all russian politicians to the world ,in declaration to international media ,  this is extremely important , so that any media that talks about , "Revocation" , will have to explain ,that ukraine was territory of Russia during soviet era time ,and that they gained their independence only under negotiations of neutrality and of handling all their lethal weapons to russia. So that the world knows , Russia is not stealing lands , you can't steal ,what was yours before ,and that was given away only under several specific major conditions , This is important to be stressed because majority of this ukraine citizens are brainwashed and does not know their own nation history , have been rewritten ,and it should be told to them ,that they were the first separatist , that took lands away of russia ,and that now russia is cancelling this independence agreements and that ukraine will only exist ,as a protectorate federative state of Russia, with limited
    political autonomy under the supervision of russia , but with no army , and that Russia military will be
    the ones in charge of the security of Ukraine borders and that reserves the rights , to decide which planes or people can enter inside ukraine. What this will cause is that all those that hate russia ,will flee to europe and only those citizens that are friendly to russia , will continue living there. And so this alleviate russian budget in paying pensions of ukrainians , if most of them abandon the country.
    then hire china for the rebuilding of major important cities , using the help of detained ultranationalist as free labor.

    the cancelation of ukraine independence , using those terms , will significantly help russia explain the world their actions , even to its own allies , ukraine violated the terms of neutrality ,by attempting to
    join NATO and by the deploying dozens of foreign biolabs ,with the aims of using dangerous viruses
    against Russia. and Russia will have the evidence to proof this to the world.

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    Post  ALAMO Fri May 27, 2022 7:25 am

    lyle6 wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    I told all y’all already that Dmitry is fuckin' crazy

    If he were running the show VKS would have been doing Rolling Thunder all over Ukrop asses for months now  Cool

    Ukrainians curse Putin when in fact they should be sending him thank you notes and wishes for good health and long life
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    I would blame the incoming succession first.
    It is not an accident, that Kadyrov is a TikTok superstar at the moment...
    Dima needs to catch up with popularity I guess.

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    Post  Vann7 Fri May 27, 2022 8:11 am

    is a report 3 weeks old , but still interesting

    This is the only source in the entire internet that explained in details ,
    the real problems of the Russian army tactics , versus ukraine advance tactics
    trench warfare
    that require ultra precision strikes ,that russian army artillery don't have , and also ukraine
    heavy use of strike drones. He knows a lot of military tactics ,and not a stupid fanboy ,that makes excuses for the losses of russian military and show just the facts , of the problems facing both sides.
    and whenever ukraine or russia shows progress ,he report it.  as it should be.




    Interesting how he explained ,the new Russian general in charge of ukraine conflict ,reversed
    the previous tactics ,that the previous generals was using for using soviet outdated tactics ,
    because soviet era tactics don't work with modern warfare today ,
    and that implementing this new tactics ,takes week(s) or even months ,for its full implementation ,because you need to remove mediocre generals not performing well , and likely also the time it takes ,to train the new generals ,explain them the new tactics.


    It is unfortunate that this new general ,did not removed his own defense minister shoigu , because
    that idiot was the one that re-armed the russian military and in those plans he did not paid attention to NATO focusing in very heavy 24 hours a day use of drones of modern wars , and swarm attacks against the enemy. Shoigu did not saw the need of heavy use of drones as close air support , replacing su-25 job , and use them heavily with artillery and ground troops , and instead Shoigu money invested for drones for russian military ,was more focused in long range patrols , to NATO navies in the pacific sea ,and for long distance travels ,instead of assisting military artillery at all times and proving protection to convoys movements and ground troops whenever they move, instead Shoigu saw the role of close air support for su-25 that are next to useless for that job , since today they are so easy to take down by manpands.  you don't see now either those hundreds of expensive helicopters flying over ukraine airspace ,as in the first week ,that they lost many.

    In my opinion , Russia needs to modify its tactics ,into something as close as possible to how they
    would have to fight NATO , the more closer the better , it means the use of combined arms operation
    beween drones and all military forces in the russian army.. from warships , to convoys movements ,to special forces movements , any movement of the russian army ,needs to be 100% supplied with dozens of drozens ,  from very small cheap spying ones , to medium ones like orlan10 , to heavy strike drones like orions.  and if possible develop look what china is doing , working with artificial intelligence swarm of very small ,cheap drones that are capable to chase soldiers in the ground
    and scare them , if for example each drone have explosives. You can make drones that you throw them from fast flying planes or low flying hellicopters, near zones where enemy artillery is ,and programmed to hunt nato artillery ,by recognizing their sound and thermal image and document in camera all their actions.

    in this conflict ,information war , is something russia is very weak too , is not showing in details
    the defeat of ukraine military , this is extremely important , videos of success of russian military ,
    can be a very powerful tool to demoralize the enemy to continue fighting if they show how hopeless is to continue fighting , if russia drones and artillery can easily stop them..   this is exactly what ukraine have been doing in their videos , but they do that , in a very small capacity ,not enough to turn the tide in a war , but if nato continue providing weapons to ukraine , they could get a lot more
    and all this could change in ukraine favor and do real progress and push back the russian army across the entire battlefield , if provided with enough drones and enough artillery.. ukraine have quality already , it only needs now quantity , to be supplied in big numbers all those advance weapons , specially advance drones and intelligent missiles ,like the british ones or the israelis spike.

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    Post  GarryB Fri May 27, 2022 8:27 am

    Blah blah blah... Soviet tactics require Soviet forces... not airborne and naval infantry and recon forces only.

    But let them whine and complain... it is the west and Kiev that want this over soon... Russia needs this to be done right.

    You can bet they wont appreciate good tactics and will suggest and promote bad tactics to the end because that is where their interests lie.

    Telling Kiev not to use Turkish drones on suicide missions because it makes them look bad... with friends like that who needs enemas?

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    Post  limb Fri May 27, 2022 9:17 am

    lancelot wrote:
    Scorpius wrote:1. It was not the Bolsheviks who destroyed the Russian Empire. They were collecting the fragments of the collapsed state into what became the USSR.
    2. It was not the Bolsheviks who started the Civil War on the territory of the former Russian Empire.
    3. Stalin was one of the Bolsheviks, and one of Lenin's closest associates.
    4. The Trotskyists were a RADICAL wing, a considerable part of the time after the Civil War was spent on getting rid of their influence.
    5. Industrialization did not begin in the thirties. The GOELRO plan, a lot of decrees on the establishment of scientific and industrial programs - it was all BEFORE Stalin's industrialization. Soviet nuclear research began in 1918, with the establishment of the Radium Institute, for example.
    6. Lenin was the ideologist of the creation of the USSR, a state that became a superpower. Without Lenin, this whole territory would have remained a bunch of scattered fragments of the former Russian Empire - only without industrialization and social equality. So Lenin did not "plant a bomb under the Russian state" - he POSTPONED for almost 100 years the processes that are being implemented now by the forces of the oligarchic bourgeoisie (whose interests are represented by Putin, I remind you).
    Finally, shifting responsibility for the current situation onto the shoulders of a man who died almost 100 years ago looks like a pathetic attempt to justify his own inability to show at least remotely similar results. To begin with, there are some questions: why, when accusing Lenin, do we simultaneously see the sacralization of Nicholas II - a pathetic rag who dragged Russia into two imperialist wars, was unable to carry out reforms and brought the country to collapse and Civil War?  Russia had more than 20 years to settle political problems with the CIS states, why was Putin unable to solve the problem - even though Lenin started from the worst positions and in FIVE YEARS created the USSR from a handful of republics at war with each other? If Lenin so "planted a bomb", then what can we say about the results of Putin's activities?

    ...and contrary to what you want to write about me now, I'm just asking you to be honest about your assessment of Russian history. Without Lenin and the Bolsheviks, there would be no Russia at all at the moment.
    The Bolsheviks signed the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk and took Russia out of WWI. That was the direct cause of the further partition of Russia and later the invasion of Russia by the Western imperialist forces.

    The GOELRO plan was achieved when Stalin was General Secretary. Stalin was the person de facto in control of GOELRO for most of its existence. The plan was conceived before he became General Secretary but he was the main driver in actually implementing it. From what I understand.

    Russia had a lot of talented scientific researchers even in imperial times. The idea Russia was backwards then is a bit of a misnomer. I also think it was overhyped by both communists and westerners alike. The overall level of economic development was low but there were pockets of excellence. And there was some industry. You had people like Sikorsky in the aviation industry, or Boris Rosing doing electronics research.

    You say Russia had better conditions to take back the USSR than Lenin did. I disagree. That chance went away after the coup against Gorbachev and the creation of the CIS. To think Putin had better chances to do this, when he was put into power right after the 1998 financial crisis and the Chechen conflict, at a time when the Soviet industry was spread all over the place, well I think it is a bit much.

    I also think you are giving Lenin credit for partially solving a mess he himself largely created.

    You do know that white russian forces actually supported separatist russophobic rebellions because they were anticommunists. The white russians actually assisted the baltic anticommunist states in getting independence for example. White russian armies also fough together with petlyura too.

    The russian empire btw imported almst all inetrnal combustion engine technology. It had very poor shipbuilding capacity. Most russian ships larger than a destroyer were built by the british, german and french empires which was humiliating

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    Post  limb Fri May 27, 2022 9:21 am

    Vann7 wrote:is a report 3 weeks old , but still interesting

    This is the only source in the entire internet that explained in details ,
    the real problems of the Russian army tactics , versus ukraine advance tactics
    trench warfare
    that require ultra precision strikes ,that russian army artillery don't have , and also ukraine
    heavy use of strike drones. He knows a lot of military tactics ,and not a stupid fanboy ,that makes excuses for the losses of russian military and show just the facts , of the problems facing both sides.
    and whenever ukraine or russia shows progress ,he report it.  as it should be.




    Interesting how he explained ,the new Russian general in charge of ukraine conflict ,reversed
    the previous tactics ,that the previous generals was using for using soviet outdated tactics ,
    because soviet era tactics don't work with modern warfare today ,
    and that implementing this new tactics ,takes week(s) or even months ,for its full implementation ,because you need to remove mediocre generals not performing well , and likely also the time it takes ,to train the new generals ,explain them the new tactics.  


    It is unfortunate that this new general ,did not removed his own defense minister shoigu , because
    that idiot was the one that re-armed the russian military and in those plans he did not paid attention to NATO focusing in very heavy 24 hours a day use of drones of modern wars , and swarm attacks against the enemy.  Shoigu did not saw the need of heavy use of drones as close air support , replacing su-25 job , and use them heavily with artillery and ground troops , and instead Shoigu money invested for drones for russian military ,was more focused in long range patrols , to NATO navies in the pacific sea ,and for long distance travels ,instead of assisting military artillery at all times and proving protection to convoys movements and ground troops whenever they move, instead Shoigu saw the role of close air support for  su-25 that are next to useless for that job , since today they are so easy to take down by manpands.  you don't see now either those hundreds of expensive helicopters flying over ukraine airspace ,as in the first week ,that they lost many.

    In my opinion , Russia needs to modify its tactics ,into something as close as possible to how they
    would have to fight NATO , the more closer the better , it means the use of combined arms operation
    beween drones and all military forces in the russian army.. from warships , to convoys movements ,to special forces movements , any movement of the russian army ,needs to be 100% supplied with dozens of drozens ,  from very small cheap spying ones , to medium ones like orlan10 , to heavy strike drones like orions.  and if possible develop look what china is doing , working with artificial intelligence swarm of very small ,cheap drones that are capable to chase soldiers in the ground
    and scare them , if for example each drone have explosives. You can make drones that you throw them from fast flying planes or low flying hellicopters, near zones where enemy artillery is ,and programmed to hunt nato artillery ,by recognizing their sound and thermal image and document in camera all their actions.

    in this conflict ,information war , is something russia is very weak too , is not showing in details
    the defeat of ukraine military , this is extremely important , videos of success of russian military ,
    can be a very powerful tool to demoralize the enemy to continue fighting if they show how hopeless is to continue fighting , if russia drones and artillery can easily stop them..   this is exactly what ukraine have been doing in their videos , but they do that , in a very small capacity ,not enough to turn the tide in a war , but if nato continue providing weapons to ukraine , they could get a lot more
    and all this could change in ukraine favor and do real progress and push back the russian army across the entire battlefield , if provided with enough drones and enough artillery.. ukraine have quality already , it only needs now quantity , to be supplied in big numbers all those advance weapons , specially advance drones and intelligent missiles ,like the british ones or the israelis spike.

    Does the US have hundreds of thousands of precision loitering munitions that cant be jammed?


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    Post  GarryB Fri May 27, 2022 9:26 am

    Have you not seen Star Trek... they have everything...

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    Post  Sujoy Fri May 27, 2022 9:32 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:But that's TRUE ! 80 % of Ukrainians on Russia's occupied territory. The catch here is that Russia is taking back her lands and is not occupying anything. Russia will never occupy OUN/UPA territory in London or Canada.
    I was being sarcastic, because this western news outlet stated that even in "Russian occupied" part of Ukraine they could carry out the Poll. Previously these same news outlets were reporting that Russia is not allowing them to access Russia controlled areas.
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    Post  lyle6 Fri May 27, 2022 10:18 am

    Vann7 wrote:



    Interesting how he explained ,the new Russian general in charge of ukraine conflict ,reversed
    the previous tactics ,that the previous generals was using for using soviet outdated tactics ,
    because soviet era tactics don't work with modern warfare today ,
    and that implementing this new tactics ,takes week(s) or even months ,for its full implementation ,because you need to remove mediocre generals not performing well , and likely also the time it takes ,to train the new generals ,explain them the new tactics.  


    The Russians only need change one general and all of a sudden its the Ukrainians that are doing the dying and surrendering in droves.

    America in its 21 years in Afghanistan were never closer to victory from day one up to the last even with the yearly revolving door of clown generals.

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    Post  Hole Fri May 27, 2022 12:41 pm

    sepheronx wrote:NEBO-T systems working in Ukraine. These track Drones, aircraft, MLRS launches, missiles and any other air targets & transmit information straight to the front lines for Russian troops to work with.

    https://t.me/asbmil/1691

    Seems Nebo-T is an upgrade of Nebo-U:
    https://dfnc.ru/en/russia-news/russia-s-nebo-t-radars-on-combat-alert/

    Which is a VHF 3D Radar system so this is an upgrade of that.

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    Does somebody know how this radar is called?

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    Post  Stealthflanker Fri May 27, 2022 1:22 pm

    Hole wrote:
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    Does somebody know how this radar is called?

    was wondering that too. the parabolic section is looking like a P-37 while the rear flat one is clearly a "half" portion of Gamma-D radar. Kinda unique tbh.

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    Post  flamming_python Fri May 27, 2022 1:55 pm

    limb wrote:You do know that white russian forces actually supported separatist russophobic rebellions because they were anticommunists. The white russians actually assisted the baltic anticommunist states in getting independence for example. White russian armies also fough together with petlyura too.

    Wasn't all that simple

    White Russian forces were a diverse bunch. The leader, Admiral Kolchak, was opposed to any seperatism whatsoever and refused any co-operation with Finland and Poland for example, where his subordinates, Yudenich and Denikin respectively (Yudenich being a good friend of Mannerheim and Denikin himself being half-Polish), were willing to entertain it to beat the Bolsheviks. But Kolchak didn't have total control. Denikin was negotiating with the Poles over recognizing their independence in return for assistance to his own forces, but was ultimately rebuffed by Pilsudski.

    The russian empire btw imported almst all inetrnal combustion engine technology. It had very poor shipbuilding capacity. Most russian ships larger than a destroyer were built by the british, german and french empires which was humiliating

    Mosin-Nagant - a joint Russian-Belgian rifle. Which I guess there's nothing wrong with, especially if produced in Russia

    But most everything else, the situation was typically abysmal. French artillery pieces, British-built warships, armored cars based on American trucks, and so on.
    Where Tsarist Russia had some surprising innovations was in aircraft, specifically strategic bombers of which it was arguably the innovator with the Ilya Muromets plane. This was largely thanks to Sikorsky. Russia certainly enjoyed no shortage of talented people - but its overall industrial backbone was a work in progress and still lagging behind, and the quality of its military leadership was just bad.

    The Tsarist Russian Army sung the praises of its victories over more backward foes than itself like the Ottomans and Safavids, but when it came up against Japan and later Germany, it showed what it was actually worth.

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