flamming_python wrote: Podlodka77 wrote:
Why don't you go to the front and ask Russian soldiers why "brothers" shoot on them and why Russian soldiers are tortured by their "brothers" ? Ask them, you keyboard warrior.
Hey liberal, it's not 1941 and German army is not at 30 km from Moscow. I don't have fear for Russia, I have fear from "logical and liberal" Russians as you are. I was in the Serbian army when NATO agression on Serbia started. And I wasn't scared, because I'm an idiot and I go with my heart
You are a liberal coward in my eyes and nothing can't change my wiew about that. As a Russian, if you are a Russian, I will repeat again that I can't stand your liberal wiews. I have never heard from Hole or Big Gazza, or Garry B , that Putin is a "war criminal", because those are your words. **** that "we are brothers" because " at least half of today's Ukraine doesn't see you or any other Russian as a brother. Russian language is forbidden, they want to destroy all Russian churches.... Those are "brothers" ? FP, go FYS !
Get out of here man.
All respect to Serbs and their bravery, but why give advice on how to win a war against NATO, or any neighboring states. For Serbia it didn't work. You had it your way, now our guys will try it their way.
This war will be won and the strategy and regulations involved are very much correct. You can go tell the Russian generals that you can't stand their liberal views either. I'm actually backing them here, is what I'm doing. As opposing to backing the hotheads that say that we should send a message, nuke something, carpet bomb something else, make an example out of some captives, etc...
As for Putin, you keep putting words into my mouth. If it turns out he started an unneccessary war that could have been entirely avoided then yes I'd see him as a criminal. But each day looking at more of these Nazi types kind of convinces me that there was actually no avoiding such a war and that it was coming if Russia hadn't struck first. Plus the reaction of the West. They were waiting for all this, and that means they might have acted to make it inevitable too.
As for the population of the Ukraine, no half of them don't hate Russians. The ones who actively hate Russians are a minority. The majority, of those who even have a hard opinion - are just swayed by the arguments of their fake state and the showmen who control it, that they are defending their territory, etc... like the same Serbia did for example in 1999. Not realizing that their country is not sovereign but merely an extension of NATO and Washington will, thus there is nothing to defend. Other's interests, instead of your own.
They deserve the blame anyway, Nazism should never be tolerated, but I do kind of understand how the Ukrainian military got into the logical stupor that it's in. And if they can be 'convinced' that it's in their best interests to give up, or switch sides - then that's by far the best outcome.
Putin must be "guilty" that NATO came to Russia's borders, right ?
You are showing your true face again and you "doubt" that Putin might be the culprit for this war. Look at this, I have no doubt that I would fight with you with my bare hands if we were in front of each other by any chance. You really stink !
Russia is doing exactly what you obviously don't like, that is, it is trying to kill as many of those "brothers" in the battles, while the conquest of cities is left for later.
Those "brothers" of yours erased KIEV in just a couple of years, and KYIV is now used all over the world, and it's not Kharkov, it's Kkarkiv, just as the Dnieper became the Dnipro, etc. AND WHY DID THEY DO IT ? The only reason is that they do not want to identify with your story about "brotherhood" and they smoked a Western lie that they will have a standard of living at least like the Germans. Why did more of your "brothers" go to Poland than to Russia?
Those "brothers" of yours mostly wear these days Hitler's tattoos, swastikas, insignia of the SS division, etc. And most of them are not from Western Ukraine, but they are residents of Kharkov, Mariupol, Kiev or Zaporozhye and Nikolaev.
Muscovites is not an expression invented by Poroshenko and Zelensky, but it is an old and derogatory Ukrainian saying about the Russians, isn't it ?
And your story about the "brotherhood" with a good part of the "Ukrainians" is worth nothing. It is not worth it because it is an old wound opened by the communists, and Lenin gave rise to the story of the "state of Ukraine". Only that was not so visible during the USSR, but it came later.
For seventy years, heretics ate up Russia and the Russian Orthodox Church, while on the other hand, extreme nationalism (later Nazism) grew in Ukraine. The moment you ban the basic language (it was Russian) and invent "your" Ukrainian Orthodox Church - then it is clear that you do not want to be a brother to the one from whom you essentially became, that is, from Russia.
If you are so sure of the "brotherhood" with Ukraine, then explain to me why the FSB still captures "cells" with Ukrainians in Crimea working against Crimea and Russia during special military operation, even though those Ukrainians have been living inside the state of Russia for 8 years or from 2014 ?
You see, even the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinopole recognized the "Ukrainian" Orthodox Church as independent, and the same church that was not founded by either Poroshenko or Zelensky, but was founded much earlier. And why was it done, if it is already known that Ukrainians have been going to the Russian Orthodox Church for centuries ?
In the end i must write that you are ignorant not to see that the West used fertile ground to fight against Russia, because what is happening now is not something that started with Poroshenko and Zelensky, but started much earlier. At least half of the "Ukrainians" will never want to have anything to do with Russia again, and the West used that fertile ground to fight against Russia, and you are free to get carried away with the story of "brotherhood".
Comparing Serbia with Russia is ridiculous. If we had some of the military equipment you have - we would trample Ukraine even more. We Serbs have been seeing the antagonism of a good part of the population of Ukraine towards Russia for decades, while they are still "brothers" for you.
For people like you, neither Bandera nor the war in 2014 was enough, as well as this conflict now, to understand that many of them do not want to be your brothers.
Ukraine no longer exists for me, and listen carefully to your compatriot Mikhail Onufrienko, who says "the former state of Ukraine" in every announcement. Unlike you, he is a true patriot. You're a liberal a**hole. I am FOR Russia to trample Ukraine as long as there is ONE guy who will say "Glory to Ukraine". If you need to kill millions, go ahead !
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