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    Post  JohninMK Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:55 pm

    Potentially important so also copied to sanctions thread Very Happy

    Russia might not be evil after all.

    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://www.rt.com/news/553240-us-says-ukraine-can-offer-russia-sanctions-relief/

    Secretary of State Antony Blinken says Washington will “allow” lifting of sanctions to help Ukraine negotiate end to the war

    Looks like DC is shitting bricks to do this

    Anyway if washington is wanting to lift sanctions it looks like they've hit a wall , I just hope we don't take the bait

    This is amazing so I've ripped the whole article to here. (not my words). They finally realised that the sanctions are clearly having, or will have, a very adverse effect..................................

    on the US not Russia. Oooops  Laughing  Laughing


    The US and its allies are doing everything possible to strengthen Kiev’s hand at the negotiating table, but the sanctions are meant to influence Russia’s behavior – not to remain in place indefinitely, Blinken said. He brushed aside suggestions by NBC host Chuck Todd that now isn’t the time to negotiate away concessions to Russia, saying it’s up to Ukrainians how to end the war in Ukraine. He also rejected Todd’s assertion that the Russian president shouldn’t be allowed to remain in power, saying Vladimir Putin’s future is up to the Russian people.
    Russia’s top negotiator comments on peace-talks outcome READ MORE: Russia’s top negotiator comments on peace-talks outcome

    Although Blinken argued that Putin has failed to accomplish his alleged objectives in Ukraine – subjugating Kiev, demonstrating Russia’s military prowess and dividing NATO members – he said it still makes sense to pursue a negotiated settlement. “Even though he’s been set back, even though I believe this is already a strategic defeat for Vladimir Putin, the death and destruction that he’s wreaking every single day in Ukraine . . . are terrible, and so there’s also a strong interest in bringing those to an end.”  

    Other leaders have suggested that the West should be stingy with promises of sanctions relief to avoid rewarding Russia or letting Putin come through the crisis unscathed. In fact, Biden raised eyebrows last weekend by saying that Putin “cannot remain in power,” a comment that Blinken was forced to walk back, saying the US isn’t pursuing regime change in Russia or anywhere else.

    Later in his show, Todd asked former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, “Can we really live in a world where Putin’s let back into the new world order?” Clinton agreed with Blinken, saying the US should support Ukrainians as they choose “the best way forward” for their country.


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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:55 pm

    Sujoy wrote:Anglo-Saxons now planning to hit India with nuclear weapons because India decided to buy Russian oil.

    Not in physical sense (at least in foreseeable future) but their goal is drive a wedge between Russia , China and India. The stepping up of info war shows clearly desperation of west. Their economical position are crumbling. They are desperate to keep Frankenstein moving...

    If India stands on their side then after Russia, Chine is next and then India to kill.

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:03 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    Sujoy wrote:Anglo-Saxons now planning to hit India with nuclear weapons because India decided to buy Russian oil.

    Not in physical sense (at least in foreseeable future) but their goal is drive  a wedge between Russia , China and India. The stepping up of info war shows clearly desperation of west. Their economical position are crumbling. They are desperate to keep Frankenstein moving...

    If India stands on their side then after Russia, Chine is next and then India to kill.

    The regime change against Pakistan failed

    However it looks like the one against Sri Lanka is picking up

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/rest-of-world/sri-lankas-cabinet-resigns-en-masse-amid-worsening-economic-crisis/articleshow/90628927.cms

    The new regime there may be used as a lever against India, since India doesn't seem to be towing the line

    China/Russia/India should be more active in setting up trade relations and currency swaps for developing nations, to prevent them falling into economic chaos as a result of devaluation or financial assaults.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:04 pm

    Ahhhh so John this article is permissible hmmm?

    It seems economics has much to do with this war!

    Anyway funny they offer this
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    Post  Isos Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:04 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    Sujoy wrote:Anglo-Saxons now planning to hit India with nuclear weapons because India decided to buy Russian oil.

    Not in physical sense (at least in foreseeable future) but their goal is drive  a wedge between Russia , China and India. The stepping up of info war shows clearly desperation of west. Their economical position are crumbling. They are desperate to keep Frankenstein moving...

    If India stands on their side then after Russia, Chine is next and then India to kill.

    Thry also said they can't talk with Panistan anymore as long as Khan is prime minister because he said pakistani are not nato slaves to obei them on Russia.

    They are making enemies everywhere.

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:12 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Ahhhh so John this article is permissible hmmm?

    It seems economics has much to do with this war!

    Anyway funny they offer this

    Agh, forgot again

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:16 pm

    Introduced in 2013, maybe 50 in service.

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    The first Russian 1L262E Rtut-BM EW system lost in the war in Ukraine!

    The system can be categorized as an "anti-artillery EW" asset, for its main tasks are to suppress enemy communications, jam enemy guided-munitions, and incoming radio-proximity fuses.
    This electronic warfare (EW) system intended to protect troops and equipment from artillery rockets and shells equipped with proximity fuses.


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    Post  Firebird Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:17 pm

    JohninMK wrote:The plan?

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    Well even the Russian MOD said that they had lots of support in near enough double that area.
    So I would think not.
    Plus Russia can always control and secure a place far larger than the pro Russian area.
    Demilitarised places can be left to their own devices... if that is necessary.

    But ultimately deNazification means going everywhere over time. Once larger chunks of the Bandera-filth army are disposed of, Russian troops are more able to deal with Odessa, Kharkov, Kiev ie 3 of the 4 biggest cities in the region.

    Even in 2014 or so, Russian enjoyed support of everuything the right bank of the Dnieper and over to Odessa.
    Why should it expect less now?

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    Post  Regular Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:19 pm

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    Gostomel?
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:20 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Ahhhh so John this article is permissible hmmm?

    It seems economics has much to do with this war!

    It is clearly allowed here by Garry's guideline, it is relevant to ceasefire negotiations in the war. It is also relevant to sanctions so I put it in the economic thread too.

    So you got it right this time cheers

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:23 pm

    Regular wrote:
    Gostomel?

    Bit too cryptic a clue Laughing

    What was the question?
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    Post  Regular Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:36 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Regular wrote:
    Gostomel?

    Bit too cryptic a clue Laughing

    What was the question?

    Sorry, I wanted to ask where the wreckage was found?

    It looks like hangars in Gostomel area. If it was in hangar, most likely damaged during shelling and then destroyed by troops who were leaving.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:36 pm

    flamming_python wrote:

    The new regime there may be used as a lever against India, since India doesn't seem to be towing the line

    China/Russia/India should be more active in setting up trade relations and currency swaps for developing nations, to prevent them falling into economic chaos as a result of devaluation or financial assaults.

    Agreed about more active but we dont know what would be counter action. i guess that's why they are not more active then we wish they would, .

    In Kazakhstan foreign intel agent tried to assassinator president. Color revolution gone wrong... We need to fix it? The next who Putin? West gets more and more desperate...

    https://russian.rt.com/ussr/news/985181-kazahstan-inostrannyi-agent-pokushenie-tokaev


    Let me guess. Putin will be sued to "international apolitical court of mickey miki for genocide" ? and declared illegitimate president ?
    How desperate they are?!


    attack attack attack




    National Gallery renames Degas’ Russian Dancers as Ukrainian Dancers
    https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2022/apr/03/national-gallery-renames-degas-russian-dancers-as-ukrainian-dancers


    Herewith Russia should rename the Great Britain to Little Britain . And Johnson .. to Jophnos it is enough offensive.

    lol1 lol1 lol1

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    Post  Azi Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:38 pm

    JohninMK wrote:The plan?

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    Of course this is the plan! It's the main goal of the whole campaign.

    Either the regions will be independent or directly integrated into Russia, that's not certain yet. But the areas do not go back to Ukraine. That is why the troops from the north were also withdrawn. It was not a defeat but a strategic retreat, so to speak, to concentrate the troops in the south. In the south of the Ukraine, in the end there was hardly any land gain since the Russian troops were undermanned. With the troops from the north, and we are talking about a lot of soldiers here, and a lot of material, the pocket is quickly closed. In addition, there are the troops from Mariupol, which will soon be completely liberated.

    I expect the complete annihilation of the Ukrainian troops in the Donbas pocket by the end of the month. I would realistically place the liberation of Odessa in mid to late May. The important question then is do the Russian troops stay where they are or do they continue to march. I would like the denazification to continue to the Polish border. This is not certain however as realistically Russia may not care what happens outside of Novorossiya.

    In my view, one should not limit oneself to historical borders! The Sumy Oblast, for example, is only sparsely populated with a little over 1 million inhabitants and is very large. It is close to the Russian border and could easily be integrated. That's exactly why the Sumy withdrawal was a mistake...but okay I don't decide ;D haha.

    Ukraine should definitely pay for its crimes since 2014, it should pay for violating the Geneva Conventions, it should pay for sleeping with Uncle Sam... and the price it pays shouldn't be too low. I mean territory and not human life!


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    Post  billybatts91 Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:38 pm

    This should be the goal of the current operation in Ukraine for Russia.

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9 - Page 36 Ukrain10

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:39 pm

    Firebird wrote:[

    Even in 2014 or so, Russian enjoyed support of everuything the right bank of the Dnieper and over to Odessa.
    Why should it expect less now?

    8 years of continuous terror and brainwashing. Who was not pro enough was raped, robed, jailed or simply disappeared without trace.

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    Post  Azi Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:40 pm

    billybatts91 wrote:This should be the goal of the current operation in Ukraine for Russia.

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9 - Page 36 Ukrain10
    Would be nice! love

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    Post  mnztr Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:48 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://www.rt.com/news/553240-us-says-ukraine-can-offer-russia-sanctions-relief/

    Secretary of State Antony Blinken says Washington will “allow” lifting of sanctions to help Ukraine negotiate end to the war


    Looks like DC is shitting bricks to do this

    Anyway if washington is wanting to lift sanctions it looks like they've hit a wall , I just hope we don't take the bait

    Who is gonna believe those liars anyway. Blinkys word is not worth shit.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:49 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://www.rt.com/news/553240-us-says-ukraine-can-offer-russia-sanctions-relief/

    Secretary of State Antony Blinken says Washington will “allow” lifting of sanctions to help Ukraine negotiate end to the war
    it

    not necessarily bait. Their own interests

    US increased oil supplies from Russia by 43% in a week
    Security Council Deputy Secretary Popov said that the United States increased oil supplies from Russia by 43% in a week
    ...

    The United States forced the Europeans to impose anti-Russian sanctions, while they themselves not only continue to import oil from Russia, but also increased the supply of "black gold" by 43% over the past week, to 100,000 barrels per day! In addition, Washington allowed its companies to export mineral fertilizers from Russia, recognizing them as essential goods," he said.
    ...
    https://ria.ru/20220403/neft-1781559523.html
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    Post  mnztr Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:50 pm

    billybatts91 wrote:This should be the goal of the current operation in Ukraine for Russia.

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9 - Page 36 Ukrain10

    I prefer if they include Kiev and leave Lviv as the new capital for Ukoland.

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    Post  Firebird Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:51 pm

    Russia themselves indicated West including Zytomoyr, Odessa, Kiev, Cherkasy, Kirovgrad ie places where they have substantial support.

    Once the vermin are roasted in the Donbass cauldron, Bandera fangirl Zelensky won't be looking to strike "bargains".

    One the Ukraine is deNazified, defascistised, the centre of gravity (ie political consensus in the region) reverts much further to the Russian view as per the Russian MOD comments.

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    Post  andalusia Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:56 pm

    Just saw this on Yahoo news; what is Russia doing about this?

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/video-appears-show-russian-attack-101026724.html
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    Post  flamming_python Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:00 pm

    Firebird wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:The plan?

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9 - Page 36 FPV1d_DXsAM-c_4?format=jpg&name=small

    Well even the Russian MOD said that they had lots of support in near enough double that area.
    So I would think not.
    Plus Russia can always control and secure a place far larger than the pro Russian area.
    Demilitarised places can be left to their own devices... if that is necessary.

    But ultimately deNazification means going everywhere over time. Once larger chunks of the Bandera-filth army are disposed of, Russian troops are more able to deal with Odessa, Kharkov, Kiev ie 3 of the 4 biggest cities in the region.

    Even in 2014 or so, Russian enjoyed support of everuything the right bank of the Dnieper and over to Odessa.
    Why should it expect less now?

    What are you talking about?

    I remember the mass brawls between the Maidanists and anti-Maidanists

    Russia kind of ditched the anti-Maidanists by taking over and annexing the Crimea, thus giving the Ukrainian nationalists very powerful arguments that they were protecting the Ukraine against invasion

    Otherwise the anti-Maidan could have been something

    But nevertheless the movement was strongest of course in Donetsk and Lugansk. In Kharkov it went on for a while, but was outnumbered especially by bused in Maidanists. In Odessa it was a similar story

    And in Nikolayev, Kherson the anti-Maidanists were heavily outnumbered

    You forget that the oligarchs by this time had 23 whole years in which to slowly spread nationalist ideology, through football clubs, online forums, all sorts of instruments - and they raised a new generation. Kharkov and Dnepropetrovsk became some of the strongholds of Ukrainian nationalism. While Mariupol was on its way to becoming assimilated, through a pilot project of Russian Nazism. Many members of Azov were Russian Nazis, whether local or from Russia.
    Since 2014 over 1500 people from that city disappeared, while a good portion of the youth were sporting all sorts of Nazi tattoos and whatever by the time of the operation, thanks to Azov's efforts in part. In fact Azov has a lot of members from Mariupol, some of them were conscripted when hostilities broke out. The Ukrainian grouping in the Donbass has a lot of local soldiers drafted from the Donbass region; Severodonetsk and so on.

    Thus I don't know how much local support Russia can count on after such a campaign of brainwashing through school, media, etc..

    The adults have more sense, but the youth are the most vulnerable. You can see this pattern in Kherson and other cities, even Mariupol - it's the older generation who remember the USSR who either welcome Russian troops or don't mind them, while the Ukrainian nationalist crowd is mostly made of young student types.

    There are of course pro-Russians, opponents of the regime, anti-fascists and so on. Some have switched to the other side over the years; an anti-Maidanist living in Kharkov writes about this.
    But they keep quiet and don't stick their head out.
    And now are probably demoralized, after the way this op is going.
    Before the invasion, someone from the Kharkov territorial defense was interviewed, and he said that he joined as it's important to show that the city is part of the Ukraine - as his own social circle was mainly full of pro-Russian people.
    Well now with all this destruction and death..


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    Post  Regular Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:05 pm

    andalusia wrote:Just saw this on Yahoo news; what is Russia doing about this?

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/video-appears-show-russian-attack-101026724.html

    About single loss of helicopter to not very mobile MANPAD system?

    Nothing. It is hard to jam them, but at the same time, it has many drawbacks and Ukraine already had tons of capable Manpads.
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    Post  Regular Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:14 pm

    Talking about support...

    If what happened in Bucha is actually true then what support can you expect?

    Even taking humanitarian aid is dangerous. Especially when you have RT and other journos filming your face. Who knows when Russians will decide to pull back and some nationalist will face-check you.

    Wise civilians should just refugee the **** out of Ukraine, unlike infrastructure, no one gives a **** about them.

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