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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #8

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    Post  kvs Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:07 pm

    Arrow wrote:https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1508518460405526530?t=69H2BKz1zxta3ppkNRKgwQ&s=19

    I hope this is Bullshit.

    It is clear that joining the EU is the same as joining NATzO. These are not the current Russian negotiation positions
    and appear to be Kiev regime fantasies.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:11 pm

    flamming_python wrote:https://t.me/boris_rozhin/37471

    T-72B Obr. 1989 takes a hit from an RPG from a building above in Mariupol, doesn't seem fazed at all

    https://t.me/sheyhtamir/13786

    Ukrainian territorial defense in the Cherkassy region abducts a priest from a church

    The Nlaw smashes into the T-72B before it could arm itself.
    Its just the rocket smashing the upper side of the tank with rocket engine combustion burning.

    Its an safety feature in most AT weapons that they travel an minimum distance so you don't blow yourself or your team up by accidents.

    Not to mention the angle of attack on the armor itself here is completely off for an successful AT hit.

    Anyway, another good example that Infantry should accompany tanks.

    Lets hope wannabe Nazi Panzersturm Amateur here is decomposing as we speak.

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:15 pm

    The predictable happened with the Ukrainian advance from Nikolayev to Kherson BTW

    They moved out of their positions to advance further today, at which point they were hit with a bunch of Grads and artillery, and then a wing of Su-25s hunted them down as they were routed

    Nikolayev hospital is full of wounded at the moment, there are calls to donate blood

    Fking hell..

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    Post  kvs Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:18 pm

    par far wrote:TUCpeMaPJxE

    The mass graves in eastern "Ukraine" are full of civilians. By contrast the "mass graves" in Kosovo were dead KLA.

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:21 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
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    A Mi-8 sent to evacuate their commanders was shot down on approach to Mariupol

    What did they think was going to happen I wonder?

    They're desperate not to be taken captive and exposed.

    only pity that without commanders

    Would have been smarter to let their commanders board and then shoot them down

    That way the rest might surrender

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    Post  LMFS Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:29 pm

    RussianDefense Ministry briefing (28.03.2022)

    The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue a special military operation in Ukraine.

    💥High-precision sea-launched cruise missiles "Caliber" destroyed large ammunition depots in the areas of the settlements of USHOMIR and Veselovka, Zhytomyr region, from which the supply of Ukrainian troops was carried out in the suburbs of Kiev.

    💥 During the day of March 28, Russian aviation and air defense systems shot down three more aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force in the air: two Su-24s are located west of the village of Korosten in Zhytomyr region and one Su-25 is located over the village of Druzhkovka in Donetsk region.

    💥 In the area of Mariupol, five kilometers from the coastline over the Sea of Azov, a Ukrainian Mi-8 helicopter was shotdown, heading for an emergency evacuation of the commanders of the national battalion "Azov"who abandoned their subordinates.

    💥 In addition, one Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicle was shot down near the villageof Chernobayevka.

    💥 During the day, operational and tactical aircraft hit 41 military facilities in Ukraine.

    ▫ ️Among them: two multiple launch rocket system installations, one electronic warfare station, two field ammunition depots and 24 strong points and areas of concentration of Ukrainian military equipment.

    📊 Since the beginning of the special military operation, 123 aircraft and 74 helicopters, 309 unmanned aerial vehicles, 1,721 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 172 multiple launch rocket systems, 721 field artillery guns and mortars, as well as 1,568 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:48 pm

    ucmvulcan wrote:
    diabetus wrote:A Ukrainian politician (Oleg Lyashko) today claimed that UA retook Irpen. Any word on what's happening there?

    These are the same clowns that are telling everyone that they retook Kherson too.  Hell, give em enough vodka and they'll swear they are at the gates of Moscow and Petersburg.

    First Name: Oleg

    Last Name: Lyashko, rhymes with lying asshole! Wink

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:00 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:


    This guys mind-space is full blown soggy bowl of Wheaties, literal mush-for-brains lol!clown pwnd

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:10 am

    HATO agitprop isn't hitting like they thought it would, it doesn't help that Macaroni is widely despised EscarGaul amongst the French lol! clown Lack of confidence actually matters! Rolling Eyes

    More than 50% of the French believe in Russia on a special operation


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    More than 50% of the French believe in at least one of Russia's arguments about a special operation to protect Donbass.

    Such data was shown by a survey by Ifop, published on the website of the CNew TV channel.

    “It turns out that 52% of respondents believe in at least one of the Russian theses about the reasons for conducting a special operation in Ukraine,” the channel’s website reports.

    The poll showed that 28% of respondents believe that the Russian operation is supported by Russian-speaking Ukrainians who want to be free from persecution. 10% are convinced that Ukraine is currently ruled by a “junta” that has been infiltrated by neo-Nazis.

    According to the survey, the most receptive to the speeches of Russian President Vladimir Putin are the supporters of the leader of the left-wing Invictus France party, Jean-Luc Mélenchon, and the journalist and leader of the Reconquista party, Eric Zemmour.

    Earlier, on March 23, Twitter users from France criticized the speech of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky before the French Parliament. In it, he called on French companies to leave the Russian market so as not to contribute to the special operation to protect Donbass.

    Some users pointed out that such rhetoric of the leader of the republic would lead to dire consequences for Europe, Izvestia writes.

    https://vpk-name.translate.goog/news/590457_bolee_50_francuzov_veryat_rossii_po_specoperacii.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US

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    Post  d_taddei2 Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:11 am

    So the fossil (Biden) keeps harping on about chemical weapons and we all know he will do nothing, another round of sanctions and more stingers.

    UK complaining about Russia using Wagner yet it was encouraging mercs and civilians across the west to go and join Ukrainian forces.

    Updates

    1) Russia's Wagner Group "has deployed to eastern Ukraine" per Britain's military intelligence, says @MickSmeathUK. "They are expected to deploy more than 1,000 mercenaries, including senior leaders of the organisation, to undertake combat operations

    2) Head of Balakliya community Ivan Stolboviy is collaborating with Russian occupation troops - head of Kharkiv regional administration

    3) 881 people were evacuated today from Berdyansk to Zaporizhiye by buses, 2350 more by private vehicles

    4) Biden: We will respond if Putin uses chemical weapons in Ukraine, and I will not tell you how we will respond

    5) He shouldn't remain in power," says @POTUS of the president of Russia, explaining he's not advocating "taking Putin down in any way

    6) Ukrainian Foreign Minister: Our highest ambition in talks with Russia is to reach a ceasefire

    7) Head of Rivne regional administration: Russian missile strike hit an oil depot

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    Post  par far Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:18 am

    "[Video] The massacre of a priest of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate - the militants of the therodefense captured him right in the temple. Nothing is known about the subsequent fate. On the video, the city of Smela, Cherkasy region."



    https://t.me/voenacher/13346

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    Post  LMFS Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:20 am

    Don't know how true this is, but it may deserve consideration:

    Forwarded from
    Military chronicle
    Military analytics as of March 28.

    South.

    The APU made attempts to attack Kherson from Nikolaev, which were constantly announced. In the area of the village of Stanislav, there was an accumulation of forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Terbatov. The Russian Armed Forces launched several artillery strikes on this cluster, and the Ukrainian Armed Forces suffered losses. So far, there has been no offensive on Kherson by the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

    The Russian Armed Forces resumed activity in the area of Gulyai-Pole and Stepnogorsk. A movement is planned to connect with the Russian troops advancing from Izyum.

    In Mariupol, the advance of the Allied forces and the cleaning of the city from the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and national battalions continues. Now there is a dismemberment of a single node of resistance of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into several sectors and their gradual elimination.

    East.

    The offensive of the combined forces of the Russian army and the DPR People's Militia from Gorlovka continues. Fighting began for the village of Novoselovka.

    South of Izyum, the Russian Armed Forces continue their offensive towards Slavyansk. Currently, there is fighting in the area of the village of Dolina, and part of the troops of the Russian army is moving towards the village of Krestishche.

    North.

    Kiev. Near Kiev, fighting is currently underway in the area of the Zhytomyr highway. Otherwise, no changes yet.

    Chernihiv. An active phase has begun in the Chernihiv region. Four APU planes were shot down in this area today. The Chernihiv and Sumy regions are being systematically cleaned up. The decision to clear the area was made to ensure a security zone in this area for the normal and safe movement of Russian convoys moving towards Kiev.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:26 am

    ludovicense wrote:
    ALAMO wrote:
    Sujoy wrote:
    Starstreak was offered to India. Failed user trials several times.


    This whole "starstreak" hype is just the same insane as the previous one concerning Javs and NLAWS.
    Just looking at it is enough to judge that it is complicated to both transport and operate.
    Not sure if you are aware of it, how it works Laughing
    Well, the operator's job is to follow the target and illuminate it with a laser beam till the missile hits.
    Good luck mounting this whole structure on the dynamic battlefield Laughing
    Or try to illuminate the target with the launcher on your shoulder only Laughing Laughing

    They seem much more complicated to operate. It will hardly be effective against planes but if used well they can be potentially dangerous for helicopters.

    Maybe so, but they will no more/little more effective than the plethora of manpads that the orcs already have access to. Another big yawn to over-hyped NATOstani responses.

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    Post  Regular Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:42 am

    Scorpius wrote:

    God, this shit is too much for me.

    The most important thing is not to stoop down to their level. The winning side will not do such crimes. I know he killed a fellow Ukrainian under false pretense, but it's crime that Ukraine needs to deal with, if he will get captured by Russians then I have no doubt he will be persecuted to the max and made an example, not so sure what will happen to him if he stays in Ukraine. Any maniac now can start killing people and call their victims saboteurs and collaborators.
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    Post  Stealthflanker Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:49 am

    I'm kinda disappointed with Dylan here.




    Like why compare Tank plant with missile plant ? On top of it why compare US missile plant with Russian tank plant ? I'm kinda feel he forget or deliberately forget that Ukraine have Malshayev plant and Luch Plant. But clearly he meant to insult not to make a proper comparison but still. and even Lima Tank plant today only makes 11/month means about 132 tank/year and UVZ is like 65% of those which dont look bad.

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    Post  diabetus Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:49 am

    flamming_python wrote:https://t.me/boris_rozhin/37471

    T-72B Obr. 1989 takes a hit from an RPG from a building above in Mariupol, doesn't seem fazed at all

    https://t.me/sheyhtamir/13786

    Ukrainian territorial defense in the Cherkassy region abducts a priest from a church

    This was an nlaw

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    Post  franco Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:53 am

    The Russian Armed Forces broke through the defense line of Ukrainian troops, who were forced to retreat to the northern outskirts of Slavyansk

    The advance of the Russian troops was about 4 km, and the Ukrainian army in this area is trying, as they say, to gain a foothold south of the village of Krestishche. This is less than 5 km from Slavyansk - its northern outskirts.

    FULL ARTICLE: https://topwar-ru.translate.goog/194101-rossijskie-vojska-osuschestvili-proryv-linii-oborony-vsu-kotorye-vynuzhdeny-otstupit-k-severnym-okrainam-slavjanska.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

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    Post  diabetus Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:57 am

    Airbornewolf wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:https://t.me/boris_rozhin/37471

    T-72B Obr. 1989 takes a hit from an RPG from a building above in Mariupol, doesn't seem fazed at all

    https://t.me/sheyhtamir/13786

    Ukrainian territorial defense in the Cherkassy region abducts a priest from a church

    The Nlaw smashes into the T-72B before it could arm itself.
    Its just the rocket smashing the upper side of the tank with rocket engine combustion burning.

    Its an safety feature in most AT weapons that they travel an minimum distance so you don't blow yourself or your team up by accidents.

    Not to mention the angle of attack on the armor itself here is completely off for an successful AT hit.

    Anyway, another good example that Infantry should accompany tanks.

    Lets hope wannabe Nazi Panzersturm Amateur here is decomposing as we speak.

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    Looks like the rear stowage box caught fire, hopefully wasn't too bad.

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    Post  Regular Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:05 am

    flamming_python wrote:https://t.me/boris_rozhin/37471

    T-72B Obr. 1989 takes a hit from an RPG from a building above in Mariupol, doesn't seem fazed at all

    https://t.me/sheyhtamir/13786

    Ukrainian territorial defense in the Cherkassy region abducts a priest from a church

    NLAW, arming distance didn't activate it so it was just a piece of expensive metal and plastic hitting the steel. You can pause to see the projectile. RPG would detonate as the arming distance is 5 meters. But then again, backblast would knock out the AT guy and cameraman. Panzerfaust 3 and CG can be used in enclosed positions and would work much better as well.
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    Post  flamming_python Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:09 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    ludovicense wrote:
    ALAMO wrote:
    Sujoy wrote:
    Starstreak was offered to India. Failed user trials several times.


    This whole "starstreak" hype is just the same insane as the previous one concerning Javs and NLAWS.
    Just looking at it is enough to judge that it is complicated to both transport and operate.
    Not sure if you are aware of it, how it works Laughing
    Well, the operator's job is to follow the target and illuminate it with a laser beam till the missile hits.
    Good luck mounting this whole structure on the dynamic battlefield Laughing
    Or try to illuminate the target with the launcher on your shoulder only Laughing Laughing

    They seem much more complicated to operate. It will hardly be effective against planes but if used well they can be potentially dangerous for helicopters.

    Maybe so, but they will no more/little more effective than the plethora of manpads that the orcs already have access to.  Another big yawn to over-hyped NATOstani responses.

    If they're beam-riding, then it only depends on the skill of the operator, and presumably there will be an FCS and tracking regime - they can't be jammed or spoofed like IR-guided and radar-guided missiles

    So it's a dangerous system, but it's not particularly portable, more Rapier than MANPAD, and like others have pointed out - I'm not sure if pure kinetic damage will be enough to bring down a helicopter unless it happens to hit in the right place. Maybe there's something I'm missing.

    Potentially Su-25s can be targeted as well
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    Post  diabetus Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:13 am

    flamming_python wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:
    ludovicense wrote:
    ALAMO wrote:
    Sujoy wrote:
    Starstreak was offered to India. Failed user trials several times.


    This whole "starstreak" hype is just the same insane as the previous one concerning Javs and NLAWS.
    Just looking at it is enough to judge that it is complicated to both transport and operate.
    Not sure if you are aware of it, how it works Laughing
    Well, the operator's job is to follow the target and illuminate it with a laser beam till the missile hits.
    Good luck mounting this whole structure on the dynamic battlefield Laughing
    Or try to illuminate the target with the launcher on your shoulder only Laughing Laughing

    They seem much more complicated to operate. It will hardly be effective against planes but if used well they can be potentially dangerous for helicopters.

    Maybe so, but they will no more/little more effective than the plethora of manpads that the orcs already have access to.  Another big yawn to over-hyped NATOstani responses.

    If they're beam-riding, then it only depends on the skill of the operator, and presumably there will be an FCS and tracking regime - they can't be jammed or spoofed like IR-guided and radar-guided missiles

    So it's a dangerous system, but it's not particularly portable, more Rapier than MANPAD, and like others have pointed out - I'm not sure if pure kinetic damage will be enough to bring down a helicopter unless it happens to hit in the right place. Maybe there's something I'm missing.

    Potentially Su-25s can be targeted as well

    Does it auto track?
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    Post  LMFS Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:00 am

    Stealthflanker wrote:I'm kinda disappointed with Dylan here.




    Like why compare Tank plant with missile plant ? On top of it why compare US missile plant with Russian tank plant ? I'm kinda feel he forget or deliberately forget that Ukraine have Malshayev plant and Luch Plant. But clearly he meant to insult not to make a proper comparison but still. and even Lima Tank plant today only makes 11/month means about 132 tank/year and UVZ is like 65% of those which dont look bad.

    BS. Uralvagonzavod is the biggest tank plant in the world and the only one manufacturing them in a serial production line, it was a direct result of the need to churn them out in absurd numbers in WWII, and that lesson was too painful to learn for them to abandon it. To say it is limited to 80 units per year is retarded beyond measure, not to talk about the inference this moron is trying to make...

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    Post  LMFS Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:02 am

    franco wrote:The Russian Armed Forces broke through the defense line of Ukrainian troops, who were forced to retreat to the northern outskirts of Slavyansk

    The advance of the Russian troops was about 4 km, and the Ukrainian army in this area is trying, as they say, to gain a foothold south of the village of Krestishche. This is less than 5 km from Slavyansk - its northern outskirts.

    FULL ARTICLE: https://topwar-ru.translate.goog/194101-rossijskie-vojska-osuschestvili-proryv-linii-oborony-vsu-kotorye-vynuzhdeny-otstupit-k-severnym-okrainam-slavjanska.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

    Seems to confirm the previous news. If true, this means the orcs are in deep shit

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    Post  kvs Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:32 am

    According to the ATGM wankers Russia should have not had any tanks left. Doing a ratio between the number of NLAWs and
    Javelins and the number of tanks (not even production) it appears, based on empirical evidence, that hundreds are needed
    to take out one tank. Most of the units sent over are lost as trophies and the effectiveness against tanks is nowhere near
    1:1. They either miss or don't do enough damage to disable/destroy the targeted tanks. We already saw a video posted
    that showed a lead armoured vehicle being taken out but the Ukr ambush unit being scattered and hunted down. So the
    opportunity to use the ATGMs is limited by engagement in battle. That is, factors other than possession of ATGMs are
    very important.

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