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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #5

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    Post  auslander Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:32 am

    DerWolf wrote:[What impact have had the recent sanctions in the daily life of normal Russians?

    Zero.

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    Post  Regular Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:33 am

    par far wrote:





    Hunt down the assholes doing this.

    Both videos blocked. What is that?

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    Post  Regular Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:41 am

    Japan has declared today that the southern Kurils is their sovereign territory.
    The Prime Minister of Japan Fumio Kishida announced it during his speech in the parliament on March 7,–JIJI reports

    https://t.co/Ht7Zchlzxi


    Well let's see if they will make a move now. Interesting times.
    I am afraid that due to multiple US and European military expert remarks many nations are looking at this military operation and considering Russian military a paper bear.
    These statements by Japan are an escalation


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    Post  lyle6 Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:55 am

    Regular wrote:
    Both videos blocked. What is that?
    Not on my end. I can still access Russian sites without the VPN, so uh, based shithole?

    Regular wrote:Japan has declared today that the southern Kurils is their sovereign territory.
    The Prime Minister of Japan Fumio Kishida announced it during his speech in the parliament on March 7,–JIJI reports

    https://t.co/Ht7Zchlzxi


    Well let's see if they will make a move now. Interesting times
    They willing to sacrifice Tokyo for those rocks? Go for it champ.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Tue Mar 08, 2022 6:13 am

    Regular wrote:Japan has declared today that the southern Kurils is their sovereign territory.
    The Prime Minister of Japan Fumio Kishida announced it during his speech in the parliament on March 7,–JIJI reports

    https://t.co/Ht7Zchlzxi


    Well let's see if they will make a move now. Interesting times.
    I am afraid that due to multiple US and European military expert remarks many nations are looking at this military operation and considering Russian military a paper bear.
    These statements by Japan are an escalation

    Abe also called those islands Japanese Territory, so this is nothing new in term of Japans position on them.

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    Post  Vann7 Tue Mar 08, 2022 6:29 am

    [quote="Regular"]
    par far wrote:


    Both videos blocked. What is that?

    working fine outside europe , had to be europe censorship of RT .

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    Post  Stealthflanker Tue Mar 08, 2022 6:36 am

    Regular wrote:Japan has declared today that the southern Kurils is their sovereign territory.
    The Prime Minister of Japan Fumio Kishida announced it during his speech in the parliament on March 7,–JIJI reports

    https://t.co/Ht7Zchlzxi


    Well let's see if they will make a move now. Interesting times.
    I am afraid that due to multiple US and European military expert remarks many nations are looking at this military operation and considering Russian military a paper bear.
    These statements by Japan are an escalation

    Nothing new.. Kurils and Sakhalin.

    The only way Japan will get them is to Actually invade.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Mar 08, 2022 6:40 am

    Maybe Japanese liked being nuked.
    Who may know, it is a weird nation scratch

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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:03 am

    Stealthflanker wrote:
    Regular wrote:Japan has declared today that the southern Kurils is their sovereign territory.
    The Prime Minister of Japan Fumio Kishida announced it during his speech in the parliament on March 7,–JIJI reports

    https://t.co/Ht7Zchlzxi


    Well let's see if they will make a move now. Interesting times.
    I am afraid that due to multiple US and European military expert remarks many nations are looking at this military operation and considering Russian military a paper bear.
    These statements by Japan are an escalation

    Nothing new.. Kurils and Sakhalin.

    The only way Japan will get them is to Actually invade.

    Not Sakhalin but the 4 islands nearest Japan.

    I can't believe I ever agree with Seig but he is correct, every leader in Japan has said the same thing.

    There will never be a peace agreement with Japan because they are US lackey and they always will make claims to those 4 small islands. Russia recently started building up or upgrading old navy base there so yeah, unless Japan wants war, they will be forever staking claim.

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    Post  Regular Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:43 am

    Gotcha, they made it sound like Japan is about to launch Pearl Harbour type of attack. I guess they want to look relevant.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:01 am

    Belarusians would fit here, but they are not being deployed.

    Belarus forces are still mostly conscripts I suspect.

    The only thing this conflict has shown is that Russia shouldn't have waited this long.

    Just imagine this cancer continuing to spread and digging in for years to come.

    What's kinda funny are the people who, witnessing all this, still say this wasn't a wise choice. Well, it certainly wasn't wise to wait this long, giving your enemy 8 years to prepare, just as it wasn't wise to not intervene in 2014, just as it wasn't wise to not prevent 2014 - preventive care being the best care. But you can damn bet that doing nothing and allowing this to linger even longer is the worst option of all. If you can't still see this, your brain is truly fucked and no one should give your opinions the light of day.

    I suspect the reasons to invade was not just one thing or another and so the current attack is probably just the right time... too early and there would be less reason to attack... and too late makes everything so much worse... I am not sure this is too late... it is certainly not Putins preferred choice, but he can't make the other parties be reasonable or less evil.

    The problem was that most helicopter engines were made in the Ukraine in 2014, and most food eaten in Russia came from the EU, and I would say that despite most of the Ukrainian population not getting a choice in their new government, many probably still believed joining the EU and HATO was likely and to happen quite soon and things were going to get much better and they could be joining Europe finally.

    Now, 8 years later I suspect they realise it was all BS and that their dreams of the west ripped them away form their primary customer Russia so their future looked very bleak with no Russia and no west... stuck on their own in the middle... a potential battlefield for the US and Russia to fight on.

    A few years ago, a lot of Syrians joined the DNR and LNR forces so I believe already quite a few of then are already there.

    I would say they will want to return the favour of all the Ukrainians who visited Syria over the last decade or so...

    Meaning the Russian military leadership decided to deploy tanks, IFVs in an urban setting without learning any lesson from the war in Iraq where the US lost hundreds of tanks in cities. Most of these tanks were destroyed by the rag tag Iraqi army leftovers using RPGs and IEDs.

    No, they are not entering urban settings, they are surrounding urban areas and negotiating surrenders of said regions.

    Half of the so called destroyed Russian tanks turn out to be Ukrainian vehicles... anti ambush preparation with drones would be more valuable than APS systems on every vehicle.

    And here we have seasoned Western soldiers embedded with the Ukranian army guiding them every step of the way.

    So monitor radio and cell communication and hammer them when they set up their ambush... kill those western turds first...


    I think they just keep the modern stuff away from battlefields so NATO can not analyze their combat performance. There will be sooner or later confrontation with PONOS (Pact of Nato Offensive Satellites) that will be subject to T-90s and T-14's.

    These are VDV and naval infantry forces and recon units that operate ahead of Russian motor rifle and tank forces...

    Wrong place wrong time or over optimistic/stupid driver?

    He is up on the footpath so he was trying to drive across after it was hit... And it looks more like its supports were destroyed and it collapsed.

    Would think Russia would be trying to capture bridges intact rather than take them out.

    My point is, even if these obsolete T-72 and other Russian heavy armour is targeted Russia is still losing precious lives, 400+ by their own count.

    Most of the ambushes would be against softer support vehicles like trucks that don't fire back... and considering the vehicles the Ukrainians operate these upgraded T-72s are not obsolete at all.

    There are already pictures of Russian T-72 in city centers. Check previous threads on this same subject. And even those that are on the outskirts of the cities are still extremely vulnerable to ATGMs/RPGs and IEDs. Unlike Serbia, Ukraine is completely flat much like Iraq. So heavy armour is easy target.

    Likely towns that have surrendered.

    My point was Western army regulars are guiding the Ukranian Nazis. That’s the reason why they are embedded with the Ukranian military. They are helping the Ukranian in spotting and targeting Russian forces.

    I think Orlan also commented about VDV not having new thermal sights, but then I rather suspect they will have spetsnaz forces with long range sniper rifles and all the best modern optics as well as drones etc etc.

    BTW Orlan clearly decided to leave this forum and deleted his own account... he was not banned.

    acceleration of some AD systems, mostly Gibka-S, Sosna/Ptitselov and Pantsir-SM-SV, the MoD should also buy some Tor systems based on Kamaz truck, because they can better keep up with convoys.

    Perhaps also the introduction of Terminator vehicles to support logistics trains with drones to watch for ambush groups ahead and to the sides of a column.

    Was asking good measures against optical tracking noone could say

    How about we don't discuss tactics on an open forum during war time... don't want to give the orcs any useful ideas...

    Nonetheless is good to discuss how to overcome tactical issues,  and minimize whatever losses do occur

    No it isn't, because this is an open forum and we don't know who is listening.

    I doubt su34 was brought down by manpads, even su25, I have seen su25 take direct hit from manpads

    Only thing would blow those planes from sky is tor or buk

    Are you assuming one missile is being launched at each target at a time?

    14) UK to Provide Further $230Mln in Aid to Ukraine – PM Johnson.
    "I am announcing a further £175 million of UK aid to Ukraine, £100 million of which will be provided directly to the Ukrainian government," He said the new funds would take the UK’s total aid to Ukraine to 400 million pounds.

    They have so much money... but not for Nurses...

    No longer in power, but still member of various boards and keeps taking Ukrainian money. I wonder how many people are soaking up in money and doing nothing in Ukraine.

    Or the friends and family of the powerful like Hunter Biden.

    Research conducted by the “Jang Group and Geo Television Network” reveals that the United States has been at war for about 225 of the 243 years since its inception in 1776. Maybe the world should be looking at the real warmonger.

    The west was genuinely shocked when Russia invaded the Ukraine... but for the rest of the world it is just another big powerful country invading another country... except its claims of bio weapons and nuclear weapons are actually much more realistic and have already been confirmed.

    Decline? Maybe stagnation. And yes, Asia will dominate the economic world anyway. It is important that Russian will be dealing in the position of power rather than becoming Chinese vasal.

    China doesn't want a vassal... it has never had one before and doesn't know why any country would want one.

    There are big countries and little countries, there are powerful countries and weak countries... there is not a huge correlation between power and size of course.

    China spent trillions on trade routes from the EU to Asia.... being on a trade route was worth money  because it meant you could also trade more easily and cheaply with Asia and the EU which is good for all the countries on the trade route.

    Countries the west has bribed or threatened to not be part of the route will suffer because they will not benefit from the trade... just like the US wont benefit from everyone else being able to trade cheaper and faster but not with them.

    The US market is taking a beating and energy is soaring

    Idk wtf they did all this for, when they wont give EU membership or even planes to Ukraine

    It was for nothing, all they had to do was sign a fucking paper , but life goes on

    Yeah, I hope they are happy... they are getting what they wanted... a totally independent Russia that is pushed towards China and the rest of the world...

    I always hear Americans say that a world without US power would be chaos. I just would like another point of view outside the US.

    Yes, the abusive husband often taunts the beaten wife by saying no one else will love you like I do or look after her and put up with her nonsense so you better stay and take your beatings...

    Not just abuse but control...

    I hope you are right but this author doesn't agree.

    He probably gets paid in dollars.

    There are lots of alternatives to the US dollar for international trade, and the more the US openly uses its dollar as a weapon and I see the EU is now doing to too with the Euro, the less countries and businesses will be comfortable trading in that currency.

    If you want to buy Russian or Chinese products they might not accept Euros and Dollars any more so you are going to either have to go without or pay in what they want to be paid in.


    We live in dangerous times.

    I suspect the EU is going to realise the US is using them as a blunt instrument to attack Russia will little care as to what it will do to the EU... when Russian gas and oil stops going to the EU is its not going to function, they will likely start panic throwing their money into various alternative energy supply sources, mostly coal I suspect and their carbon emission promises will go out the door.

    If that means a weakening of the anti Russia bullshit and the introduction of some anti US feeling might create a split west where the EU starts to think and act independently... HATO would collapse and be replaced by some Euro military force but without the US will be rather weaker than HATO was but also much less active and rather more of a defence force for Europe as originally envisiaged for HATO really.

    With Russian gas and oil supplies the EU will not suffer economically the way the US wants them to and with the silk roads from Asia through Russia trade from Asia to EU and back will be quicker and cheaper than ever before and the economic boom will be felt by the EU and Asia and the countries in between... but the US will miss out on most of that... reductions in use of the dollar might lead to a real stagnation in the US and it might eventually elect someone with balls to fix their very serious problems at home.

    Like it or not Russia's biggest trading partner is the EU

    And at one point Ukraine was pretty big too... but change is a part of life and they don't want your trade at the moment... they both think America will protect them from a big angry dangerous you, but the only danger is the US.

    To pretend that Russia will not massively suffer from the loss of export markets, inflation, sanctions is folly.

    Wont be easy, but will be worth it.

    Gotcha, they made it sound like Japan is about to launch Pearl Harbour type of attack. I guess they want to look relevant.

    Naahhhh, they got the lyrics from the US and they sing it by wrote every year... they wont change the words...

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    Post  d_taddei2 Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:19 am

    Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:
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    d_taddei2 wrote:
    i have no doubts that russian army is very poorly trained for modern wars..  look the catastrophic performance of russian military in armenian conflict recently.those drones wiped very easily russian tors and buks and s-300s.. no problem for those israeli and turkish drones ,  not even the russian army hellicopters could fly safely inside armenian airspace. incompetence.   [/u]


    Syria have not TorM1/2
    Please tell no fairy tales here.
    Syrians have PanzirM1

    Israel avoids very strong TorM1. See also immediate attack on the Iranian TorM1 what was destroyed immediately after arrival (it was not in operation at T3.

    Russia did not give Syria no TorM1. Because Israel did everything that this did not happen.

    I think someone is playing tricks here and doctored this because these are NOT my words a scammer in the forum

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    Post  Mir Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:29 am

    Good analysis from The Saker >>

    https://thesaker.is/major-military-and-political-developments-and-major-risks-next/

    Apparently Russia has now made a list of it's enemies - not too many surprises Laughing

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    Post  Mir Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:34 am

    Also posted on The Saker from Michael Hudson >> excellent piece <<

    https://thesaker.is/america-shoots-its-own-dollar-empire-in-economic-attack-on-russia/

    The American Empire self-destructs. But nobody thought that it would happen this fast


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    Post  d_taddei2 Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:43 am

    Updates

    1) Beijing Urges US to Explain Its Biological Activities for Military Purposes at Home and Abroad, Including in Ukraine - Foreign Ministry

    2) Russian MoD Announces Opening of Humanitarian Corridors From Kiev, Chernigov, Sumy, Kharkov, Mariupol From 07:00 GMT

    3) Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine Says Moscow, Kiev Agreed on Observing Ceasefire Along Sumy-Poltava Humanitarian Corridor From 7:00 GMT

    4) Nickel Price Hits Record High over $100,000 Amid Supply Concerns - Exchange
    The price of nickel continues to rally more than 100% on the London Metal Exchange (LME), rising to historic highs above $100,000 a tonne on concerns about possible disruptions in supplies from Russia.

    As of 06:31 GMT on Tuesday, the price of three-month nickel futures was rising 109.4% to $100,680 per tonne.

    5) Fifty-four Settlements Brought Under Control of LPR Since March 5 - People’s Militia
    A total of 54 settlements came under the control of the Luhansk People's Republic (LPR) over the course of three days, the People's Militia of the LPR said on Tuesday.

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    Post  nomadski Tue Mar 08, 2022 9:29 am

    Well , if the encircled towns with Rats inside , are simply going to be left alone , though with some harassment . Then it could take a long time to liberate them . Why not air drop some self defence weapons inside towns ? Simple firearms with instructions on use . Encourage locals to attack the Rats ? Friendly population can be identified in different areas of towns . Why should the Rats be allowed to arm their Darlings and not the general population ? Better than letting the civilians die of hunger and sit and watch ? During WW2 , the British had similar ideas of arming anti- fascist partisans , with mass produced  Sten sub - machine guns ?




    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sten#:~:text=The%20STEN%20%28or%20Sten%20gun%29%20was%20a%20family,were%20also%20effective%20insurgency%20weapons%20for%20resistance%20groups.

    Make it an odd calibre , only with Russian ex-stocks , non-standard . So weapon can not be used against Russia .

    Edit : A lot of " volunteers " are going to Ukraine from Europe , as medics or fire - fighters etc . They most probably spies , so must be arrested .



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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Mar 08, 2022 9:53 am

    Regular wrote:Gotcha, they made it sound like Japan is about to launch Pearl Harbour type of attack. I guess they want to look relevant.

    They do it for clout. Reason why they never signed the peace deal is because they always said it was theirs. Even though they signed the san francisco accord in the 50's relinquishing rights over it.

    Hence goes to my statement that agreements aren't worth the paper they are written on.

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    Post  Sujoy Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:22 am

    The Anglo-Saxon plan was always to de populate Russia and then take over Russia's resources. In other words Russia without Russians.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:50 am

    Regular wrote:Gotcha, they made it sound like Japan is about to launch Pearl Harbour type of attack. I guess they want to look relevant.

    If the Japs want to appear relevant they need to take that Murkan dick out of their arse. Other than that they need to stay quiet and keep outta the way...

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    Post  RTN Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:54 am

    Mir wrote:Also posted on The Saker from Michael Hudson >> excellent piece
    I joined this forum in 2014 and since then I'm reading about the imminent collapse of the US. Sadly, the wishes of these forum members (quite a few of whom are Russian living in the West) have never been fulfilled.

    This asshat who wrote this idiotic article should try his luck in movies, seems to have a fertile imagination.


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    Map posted by Korwin from the Polish party Konfederacja. To be taken with a grain of salt.

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    A map posted by Korwin about how the Kremlin wants to partition Ukraine, information provided by his "well informed" contacts in Moscow.

    Numbers indicate the percentage of people who speak Ukrainian

    The first four in the list; Kharkow, Lugansk, Donetsk, and Nowa Rosy to be incorporated into Russian Federation as union of Belarus, Russia, and Ukraine

    Central Ukraine possibly with Poronshenko as head of state

    Western Ukraine named Red Ruthenia

    Bessarabia exchanged with Moldova for Transnistria
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:14 am

    WarMaps
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    #MARIUPOL
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    DPR forces penetrated the first Azov defenses of Mariupol City, fights are now occurring inside the Peremohy street.



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    Steady progress, no smash and grab, sod the collateral damage, NATO tactics here.


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    Post  Broski Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:15 am

    Regular wrote:Both videos blocked. What is that?
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