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    Post  Yugo90 Sat Mar 05, 2022 4:53 pm

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sat Mar 05, 2022 4:53 pm

    What's up with that 60 km long Russian convoy?

    How much of Russian army is in the Ukraine?

    Are Russians making progress today?


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    Post  flamming_python Sat Mar 05, 2022 4:54 pm

    Urluber wrote:
    rigoletto wrote:West uses Moldova to supply arms to Ukraine

    Various sources are spreading information that Moldova serves as an intermediary for
    the supply of lethal weapons from NATO to the Ukrainian Armed Forces through the airfield
    in Marculesti.

    If everything they say turns out to be true, we can conclude that Moldova is undermining the
    constitutional order, one of the foundations of which is the neutral status of the country.


    https://en.news-front.info/2022/03/05/west-uses-moldova-to-supply-arms-to-ukraine/

    Moldova should be liberated also while on the move.
    But seriously: Moldova, yesterday I think, made a pledge to join the EU.

    Moldova has always been half anti-Russian and half pro-Russian

    The pro-Russian areas have always been the capital Kishinev (mixed population of Moldovans, Russians, Jews, etc... but mostly Russian-speaking), Gagauzia and Pridnestrovie. The later two are extremely pro-Russian. Also the gypsies in Moldova are very pro-Russian, but I'm not sure how often they vote.

    The anti-Russian areas have been most of the rural districts and smaller towns.

    The thing is that most of Moldova's rural and small town population is right now busy working in Europe and have Romanian passports. Whereas the Kishinev, Gagauz and Pridnestrovian population mostly stay in Moldova, sometimes working in Russia or the Ukraine.

    So if any urgent political crisis develops there, the momentum will be more on the side of the people who are there now - the pro-Russians. Although the anti-Russian nationalists are more organized and more violent and can take control like the Ukrainian ones did in the Ukraine.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sat Mar 05, 2022 4:55 pm

    No Russia cannot pullout of Ukraine now, it's too deep and too far along for that

    Right now , Russia needs to escalate involvement to put this dog down

    Enough being nice and to hell with civilian casualties,

    Hit Ukrainian forces hard and minimize collateral damage as much as possible

    But it's not the armies job to be a humanitarian org

    Stupid Kremlin is the one holding the army and VKS on a tight leash

    Military command needs to take over this op, it's not a political one, it's a military one

    Civilians will fall in line once the leadership is severed and the fighting forces are put down for good

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    Post  flamming_python Sat Mar 05, 2022 4:59 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:No Russia cannot pullout of Ukraine now, it's too deep and too far along for that

    Right now , Russia needs to escalate involvement to put this dog down

    Enough being nice and to hell with civilian casualties,

    Hit Ukrainian forces hard and minimize collateral damage as much as possible

    But it's not the armies job to be a humanitarian org

    Stupid Kremlin is the one holding the army and VKS on a tight leash

    Military command needs to take over this op, it's not a political one,  it's a military one

    Civilians will fall in line once the leadership is severed and the fighting forces are put down for good

    You seem to oscillate between various stages of hysteria.

    Who's the one who shouldn't in the trenches?

    Russia has nothing to do in central Ukraine for sure. If it can't end the war quick, it should withdraw from there to more defensible lines.

    But I think negotiations can yield something in the coming week.


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    Post  ALAMO Sat Mar 05, 2022 4:59 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
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    This guy should take the same shit he is used to, but half the dose.
    At current level, he cal leave the Earth orbit this week already, knowing that we have only Sunday left ...
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:04 pm

    That's the problem,  Russia CAN end this quick, the question of casualties is one of poor leadership, the war can be ended with minimal casualties and loss of equipment, if the leadership is committed to the goal of becoming responsible for the future of this territory , it means a more direct and determined approach

    It's not a question of possibilities, it's a question of WILL

    Right now the political leadership demonstrates a very poor WILL in executing this operation

    Under the conditions of full info war, sanctions, arming of the opponent, ambushes and resistance by enemy, killing of Russian forces by the enemy

    The decision should be made to bombard Ukraine in any areas where resistance is present.

    We are not talking of bombing the city indiscriminately,  but of wacking the mole wherever it pops out

    If MANPADS is coming from an area, or artillery, or rocket fire, then quickly flatten said area

    That is all

    And what are negotiations for ? This is why guys are dying, because midget keeps meeting with the coke addict and signing ceasefires with terrorists

    No more negotiations, only demands now

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    Post  Werewolf Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:08 pm

    Sujoy wrote:Ukranian Army used Igla to shoot down two Ka-52. But it looks to me countermeasures spoofed one missile of the three plus launched, and the Ka 52 that grounded reportedly had the Igla counterjam and home on the countermeasure pod.

    Not sure how the Mi-24 got hit. If the Ka-52 has countermeasures obviously the Mi-24 has that too. Or maybe as in the case of the Ka-52 a couple of missiles were probably fired at a number of Mi-24s and unfortunately one of them was hit.

    Any countermeasures on any aircraft need some standoff distance from the point they are launched at. The Mi-24 was shot down from less than 300 meters, which is not even enough distance or time for the electronics or DIRCM to register that something is coming in. The DIRCM dazzlers need also time to turn towards the incoming missile which in terms of real world physics requires more time than for the missile to fly 300 meters. The cases for Ka-52 I don't know but looking at the tactics they fly very low to avoid the remaining AD systems like BUK or even OCA, they would have a similar issue avoiding MANPADs from a few hundred meters. They probably didn't get any warning because MAW sensors need to pick up the trail from launched missiles. They should indeed use more suicide drones in regions where they know MANPADS are or recon has shown.

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    Post  Yugo90 Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:10 pm

    If they send jihadist with combat experiences and all western volunteers to the front line then Russian offensive will be stopped very fast. I dont see this war ending soon. If Ukraine is getting full unlimited help from the west with tons of jihadists and other nazis and weapons then Russia will have to stop being nice and crush them hard. If not Russian will have 10,000 death soldiers at the end of this war.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:14 pm

    Yugo90 wrote:If they send jihadist with combat experiences and all western volunteers to the front line then Russian offensive will be stopped very fast. I dont see this war ending soon. If Ukraine is getting full unlimited help from the west with tons of jihadists and other nazis and weapons then Russia will have to stop being nice and crush them hard. If not Russian will have 10,000 death soldiers at the end of this war.
    This much is obvious, left in the hands of the imbeciles of the Kremlin, and defeatists 

    We will end up in bad position to end this

    Look the defeatists calling for negotiations and such are being heard

    Right now a ceasefire is being declared for Mariupol,  for civilians to exit

    Guys the atrocities are already large scale, why is there a ceasefire being declared? 

    The area must be flattened, the brotherly people are laughing at falling su34 and calling burnt corpses of our guys pederasts

    Other idiots call for this op to proceed at pace. So then people like Mike empower the voices like that of flaming to enact a capitulation policy where more men die


    No it's obvious the op cannot continue at this pace, harder measures are needed, or we will be signing agreement with zelensky, and those who died , will have died for nothing

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    Post  Guest Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:20 pm

    So to protect convoys from drones they attached Tors to columns yesterday, which is good. Bad is that they already abandoned two Tors in working condition on the side of the road to be towed by smirkling Ukr farmers this morning.

    I am literally getting depressed here.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:25 pm

    Orlan wrote:So to protect convoys from drones they attached Tors to columns yesterday, which is good. Bad is that they already abandoned two Tors in working condition on the side of the road to be towed by smirkling Ukr farmers this morning.

    I am literally getting depressed here.

    Source? Abandoning two tors in WORKING condition would be horrendous they should know to destroy them if they HAVE to ditch them

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    Post  nomadski Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:26 pm

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    Expensive Javelin ! Yes another weakness . I was thinking that decoy convoy could be set up . Consisting of empty vehicles , with no engine . Connected like train , only with a driver to steer , and lead vehicle pulling . Driver's cabin only armoured . Then just drive along Roads and absorb hits , ahead of real convoy . And trap the javelin nest with mobile hunters .


    GarryB wrote :

    Probably easier to just pop smoke...

    And fire cannon at the launch position.

    It seems that NATO is gathering . Sending money and supplies . In a significant way . This still does not mean they are united . All it means is that Russia did not yet retaliate . It did not stop the interference . Break up the gathering . So should it break them up now or later ? Now it has it's hands full . But no guarantee that it will not have it's hands full , six months from now . But if it can finish major operations soon , and it can see the light at the end of the tunnel . Then it can delay retaliation against NATO . The weapons , money and men that this gang send , no doubt kill Russians . But will it stop victory ? They know the numbers , I don't . If it stops victory , then strike NATO now , while you are strongest . It all depends on the numbers .

    Now about protecting convoys . Use the equipment you have . This may turn out to be a long conventional war by proxy , but I doubt . Giving blood or treasure ? Whichever you have more of ! I know , not popular with soldiers ,who ask for a sledge- hammer to crack a nut . When all they have is a spoon to cut down a tree .


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    Post  Yugo90 Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:26 pm

    They should study NK war in 2019. How azeris destroyed ARM air defence. With smaller looses

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    Post  billybatts91 Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:26 pm

    Why is Russia going in a snail's pace? Only Kherson was taken. We need quicker actions from Russia, Mariupol should've already fell, the whole Donbas should be taken and Kharkiv should soon be soon under Russia's control. Time is of the essence here.

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    Post  Yugo90 Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:29 pm

    billybatts91 wrote:Why is Russia going in a snail's pace? Only Kherson was taken. We need quicker actions from Russia, Mariupol should've already fell, the whole Donbas should be taken and Kharkiv should soon be soon under Russia's control. Time is of the essence here.
    yes i have a feeling like they are planing 5 year war not few weeks. They should hit them fast and hard

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:29 pm

    Four Ukrainian Su-27 Jets Shot Down in Aerial Fight Above Zhytomir Region, Russian MoD Says


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    Post  Yugo90 Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:31 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:I cant deal with this shit , ceasefire was declared

    I'm signing off
    Stupid move. Ukies will wait for weapons and reinforcements and then start again....i cant believe it

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    Post  Urluber Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:31 pm

    It's coming, I'm sure. More normal use of force, that is.

    Russian rocket artillery (MLRS) firing a salvo at Ukrainian army positions in Ukraine’s Kherson region


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    Post  lyle6 Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:31 pm

    Ceasefires were literally a major part of Russia's success in Syria. Pay attention, this is how you win without massacring millions of people a la Iraq.

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    Post  Isos Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:31 pm

    Report ukrainians killed one of the guys that went for negociation at the border the first time. Thry believe he was a russian spy.

    They are going crazy. They kill their own troops. Many civilian killed in the cities for various reasons.

    Zelensky beg for No fly zone which means both its air force and air defences have took heavy losses.

    Russians are preparing heavy attacks with the reinforcement.

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    Post  lyle6 Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:33 pm

    billybatts91 wrote:Why is Russia going in a snail's pace? Only Kherson was taken. We need quicker actions from Russia, Mariupol should've already fell, the whole Donbas should be taken and Kharkiv should soon be soon under Russia's control. Time is of the essence here.
    They are taking breather for logistics to catch up. You know, the things that supply the bombs and missiles that you lot were calling for for days now.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:34 pm

    4 Ukr su27 shot down, okay here we go

    VKS needed to win the sky, now suppress those AD

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    Post  dino00 Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:34 pm

    They are advancing everyday at a very good pace, but why so many BMP-2 and so little or none BMP-3?

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