Russia Defence Forum

Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

Military Forum for Russian and Global Defence Issues


+79
Scorpius
auslander
adder
sundoesntrise
franco
Eugenio Argentina
Atmosphere
pavi
dino00
lyle6
billybatts91
wilhelm
Singular_Transform
Arrow
higurashihougi
mnrck
ahmedfire
ATLASCUB
Hannibal Barca
ArgentinaGuard
ScotchedEarth
Ispan
nero
The Ottoman
psg
Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E
lancelot
Azi
limb
Werewolf
rigoletto
mack8
Serberus
Sujoy
OminousSpudd
GarryB
teh_beard
Yugo90
Erk
Odin of Ossetia
ucmvulcan
SolidarityWithRussia
bitcointrader70
AlfaT8
Broski
LMFS
Kriva
Big_Gazza
magnumcromagnon
thegopnik
Hole
Regular
GunshipDemocracy
Stealthflanker
medo
JohninMK
SeigSoloyvov
Mir
VARGR198
Walther von Oldenburg
Firebird
Urluber
Rasisuki Nebia
Airbornewolf
ALAMO
nomadski
Rodion_Romanovic
Vann7
George1
miketheterrible
flamming_python
par far
kvs
Isos
Karl Haushofer
EkErilaz
Arkanghelsk
Backman
d_taddei2
83 posters

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    d_taddei2
    d_taddei2


    Posts : 2687
    Points : 2863
    Join date : 2013-05-11
    Location : Scotland UK

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 Empty Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    Post  d_taddei2 Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:18 am

    Lavrov win this debate he's very clever guy. While she's just an ignorant idiot mouthpiece for UK foreign policy.



    https://mobile.twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1499403143204859904

    GarryB, Hannibal Barca, Airbornewolf, Big_Gazza, zardof and Yugo90 like this post

    d_taddei2
    d_taddei2


    Posts : 2687
    Points : 2863
    Join date : 2013-05-11
    Location : Scotland UK

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 Empty Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    Post  d_taddei2 Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:38 am

    Am not a football fan. But he made a wise choice.


    Abramovich to sell Chelsea with net proceeds going to Ukraine war victims

    What you need to know:
    The billionaire believes it is in the "best interest" of the Champions League holders if he parts ways with the club he has transformed since he bought it in 2003

    Chelsea's Russian owner Roman Abramovich said on Wednesday he had made the "incredibly difficult" decision to sell the Premier League club, pledging that proceeds would go to victims of the war in Ukraine.
    The billionaire believes it is in the "best interest" of the Champions League holders if he parts ways with the club he has transformed since he bought it in 2003.


    The dramatic development comes days after Abramovich said he was handing over control of Chelsea to trustees of its charitable foundation following Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
    "I have always taken decisions with the club's best interest at heart," Abramovich said in a statement.
    "In the current situation, I have therefore taken the decision to sell the club, as I believe this is in the best interest of the club, the fans, the employees, as well as the club's sponsors and partners."

    It is a seismic moment for English football after nearly two decades during which Abramovich's team have consistently challenged for the sport's top honours.
    Chelsea have won 19 major trophies in the Abramovich era, including their first two Champions League crowns and five Premier League titles.
    But the 55-year-old's reign will come to an end in the fall-out from Russia's invasion of its neighbour.

    Abramovich, alleged to have close links to Russian President Vladimir Putin, has not been named on a growing British sanctions list targeting Russian banks, businesses and pro-Kremlin tycoons.

    But the Chelsea owner's concern about potential seizing of assets is understood to have sparked his move to off-load the Blues.
    Swiss billionaire Hansjorg Wyss and US investor Todd Boehly, a co-owner of the Los Angeles Dodgers baseball team, are reported to be two of the parties now preparing a joint bid for the Premier League giants.
    Wyss, 86, told Swiss newspaper Blick he had been offered the chance to buy the London club because Abramovich wanted "to get rid of Chelsea quickly" before potential political sanctions.

    It is believed Abramovich's asking price for Chelsea will be around £3 billion ($4 billion), with American bank the Raine Group reported to have been asked to handle the sale.
    - Privilege of a lifetime'
    Chelsea's debt to Abramovich currently stands at around £1.5 billion but he will not ask for loans to be repaid, while he is also said to be set to sell his London property portfolio.
    Abramovich, who made a rare appearance to watch Chelsea win the Club World Cup in Abu Dhabi last month, has pledged to donate any net proceeds from the sale to help victims of the war in Ukraine.

    "The sale of the club will not be fast-tracked but will follow due process," he said.
    "I will not be asking for any loans to be repaid. This has never been about business nor money for me, but about pure passion for the game and club.
    "Moreover, I have instructed my team to set up a charitable foundation where all net proceeds from the sale will be donated.
    "The foundation will be for the benefit of all victims of the war in Ukraine. This includes providing critical funds towards the urgent and immediate needs of victims, as well as supporting the long-term work of recovery."
    Abramovich paid £140 million to buy Chelsea and the shrewd appointment of Jose Mourinho as manager helped shatter Manchester United and Arsenal's stranglehold on the Premier League.
    d_taddei2
    d_taddei2


    Posts : 2687
    Points : 2863
    Join date : 2013-05-11
    Location : Scotland UK

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 Empty Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    Post  d_taddei2 Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:41 am

    Well well well UK getting a taste of the sanctions backlash lol!
    Another piece of news that will get zelensky back on the crack pipe this morning. Did his lips ever leave it?

    Updates

    1) Roscosmos: Launch of Soyuz-2.1B Rocket Carrying UK's OneWeb Communication Satellites Cancelled

    2) German Chancellor Scholz Hails NATO's Decision Not to Accept Ukraine Into the Bloc as 'Correct'

    GarryB, Airbornewolf, Big_Gazza, miketheterrible, Hole and Yugo90 like this post

    avatar
    Regular


    Posts : 3498
    Points : 3478
    Join date : 2013-03-10
    Location : Fuck war

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 Empty Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    Post  Regular Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:54 am

    https://twitter.com/666_mancer/status/1499677643930750981/photo/1

    Russian Su-25 shot down, Donetsk area. I wonder what system could have been used, I doubt it's MANPADs, are they are trying to pull Serbs?
    Mir
    Mir


    Posts : 2412
    Points : 2416
    Join date : 2021-06-10

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 Empty Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    Post  Mir Fri Mar 04, 2022 11:00 am

    The media in the West have all these questions about civilian lives being taken by Putin but when the question falls back onto them to explain the hundreds of thousands of deaths during their illegal military interventions they have no answers. More than a million civilians lost their lives in Iraq alone. Now they talk about criminal procedures against the Russians but none of their actual real life war criminals have ever been prosecuted. In the context of this war civilian deaths at the hand of the Russian military has been relatively low. From what I can gather the Ukr Nazis are the real war criminals here but on that inconvenient matter the Western media has gone deaf and blind. All they can do is spew unadulterated propaganda. There is no such thing as real journalism - they are all just paid trolls.

    GarryB, d_taddei2, magnumcromagnon, Big_Gazza, kvs, auslander, miketheterrible and like this post

    Stealthflanker
    Stealthflanker


    Posts : 1346
    Points : 1426
    Join date : 2009-08-04
    Age : 35
    Location : Indonesia

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 Empty Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    Post  Stealthflanker Fri Mar 04, 2022 11:06 am

    Regular wrote:https://twitter.com/666_mancer/status/1499677643930750981/photo/1

    Russian Su-25 shot down, Donetsk area. I wonder what system could have been used, I doubt it's MANPADs, are they are trying to pull Serbs?

    They're still have some flyable aircrafts and some mobile Buk's.

    Big_Gazza, kvs and Yugo90 like this post

    avatar
    Regular


    Posts : 3498
    Points : 3478
    Join date : 2013-03-10
    Location : Fuck war

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 Empty Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    Post  Regular Fri Mar 04, 2022 11:10 am

    Stealthflanker wrote:
    Regular wrote:https://twitter.com/666_mancer/status/1499677643930750981/photo/1

    Russian Su-25 shot down, Donetsk area. I wonder what system could have been used, I doubt it's MANPADs, are they are trying to pull Serbs?

    They're still have some flyable aircrafts and some mobile Buk's.

    Would BUk damage it like that? It would definitely shred it with square holes. So they keep their AA off until the last moment?

    Also, I doubt that Ukraine has fighter jets active, they did use Su-24 a day ago. Almost impossible to target it when it's flying low and has a cover. But where does it they take off from? I know they can easily take off from potato fields or motorways, but do they need infrastructure to service and rearm them? It's not a drone.

    Yugo90 and Mir like this post

    JohninMK
    JohninMK


    Posts : 12044
    Points : 12171
    Join date : 2015-06-16
    Location : England

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 Empty Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    Post  JohninMK Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:02 pm

    Its all over bar the moaning now.

    ZOKA
    @200_zoka
    ·
    3h
    Mayor of Energodar said that the fire at the nuclear power plant was eliminated, there were no casualties among the civilian population, and urged the residents of the city not to provoke the Russian military.

    Michael A. Horowitz
    @michaelh992
    ·
    4h
    #Ukraine State Inspectorate for Nuclear Regulation confirms the site Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant is occupied by the military forces of the Russian Federation



    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 FM_FHIjXwAIdcba?format=png&name=small

    EDIT

    Conflict News
    @Conflicts
    · 53m
    BREAKING: Ukrainian state nuclear company says 3 Ukrainian troops killed, 2 wounded in Russian attack on nuclear plant. - @AP

    MilitaryLand.net
    @Militarylandnet
    ·
    29m
    The nuclear power plant was defended by 2nd battalion of PPISF, Ukrainian National Guard. They stood no chance and I wonder why Ukraine decided to keep them there.



    Last edited by JohninMK on Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:30 pm; edited 1 time in total
    VARGR198
    VARGR198


    Posts : 509
    Points : 513
    Join date : 2015-08-09

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 Empty Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    Post  VARGR198 Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:03 pm

    GarryB, Big_Gazza, kvs, JohninMK, Isos, Hole and Arkanghelsk like this post

    JohninMK
    JohninMK


    Posts : 12044
    Points : 12171
    Join date : 2015-06-16
    Location : England

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 Empty Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    Post  JohninMK Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:07 pm

    The Lookout
    @The_Lookout_N
    ·
    8m
    Interesting note from the Ukr General Staff report of 0600 this morning.

    The Russian Air Force is attempting to supress Ukrainian air defences on the Black Sea coast.

    Operations of Su-24Ms, using RBK-500 cluster bombs, escorted by Su-30SMs, is reported.

    Big_Gazza and Yugo90 like this post

    JohninMK
    JohninMK


    Posts : 12044
    Points : 12171
    Join date : 2015-06-16
    Location : England

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 Empty Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    Post  JohninMK Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:10 pm

    To be expected

    Spriter
    @spriter99880
    ·
    41m
    The church of the Moscow Patriarchate was robbed in Kiev. They brought out everything they could, including food and equipment. Nazi Mikita Zujko calls on his supporters to turn the looting of church property into a mass phenomenon.
    Isos
    Isos


    Posts : 10516
    Points : 10502
    Join date : 2015-11-06

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 Empty Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    Post  Isos Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:12 pm

    JohninMK wrote:The Lookout
    @The_Lookout_N
    ·
    8m
    Interesting note from the Ukr General Staff report of 0600 this morning.

    The Russian Air Force is attempting to supress Ukrainian air defences on the Black Sea coast.

    Operations of Su-24Ms, using RBK-500 cluster bombs, escorted by Su-30SMs, is reported.

    They clearly need more drones. And kh-25P. Dumb bomb put the aircraft in danger.

    d_taddei2, miketheterrible and Arkanghelsk like this post

    JohninMK
    JohninMK


    Posts : 12044
    Points : 12171
    Join date : 2015-06-16
    Location : England

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 Empty Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    Post  JohninMK Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:17 pm

    Am I interpreting this correctly?

    This is a commander and his comms guy (don't know military term) who in the past would have had a radio back pack and a whip aerial and now has a tablet and a couple of mobile phone like devices.

    marqs
    @MarQs__
    ·
    39m
    Russian Forces in Volnovakha


    SORRY, IGNORE THE FIRST VIDEO, DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS THERE



    Last edited by JohninMK on Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:19 pm; edited 1 time in total

    Hole likes this post

    avatar
    Guest
    Guest


    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 Empty Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    Post  Guest Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:19 pm

    One Serbian retired general on TV, while himself being very Pro-Russian, was criticizing the Russian army performance in Ukr. Stating that logistic convoys left unprotected is something amateurs do, that Ruaf needs to fly hundreds of sorties a day and that in his opinion Russian army is already experiencing thinning and that they might lack manpower to form.spearheads soon unless they get reinforcements.

    Also mentioned how Serbs would destroy equipment rather than let it be used by enemy, and that he doesn't understand how army unit can leave equipment parked in line and organised manner and then walk away.

    Also he was disappointed by use of VDV in light BMDs in cities and throwing of special recon units into objectives too deep into enemy territory instead of using them as agressive forward observers and spotters. Lack of infantry protection for armoured units is almost unexisting and they get so easily destroyed by RPGs, he says Its mistake Yugoslav army learned in Vukovar and was later repeated in huge part in Syria in early stages of the conflict.

    On other side is Is surprised by performance of LNR-DNR and says it's the experience that counts.

    This is 1999. Veteran, one of the best men Yugoslavian army had, he commanded multiple urban ops with back then Yugoslav special forces and PJP against UCK, he was also friend with late Anatoly Lebed.

    He said what most people here in Serbia that participated in war see and feel frustrated including myself as loses are preventable in majority of cases.

    I assume some here will probably know who he is.
    SeigSoloyvov
    SeigSoloyvov


    Posts : 3370
    Points : 3352
    Join date : 2016-04-08

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 Empty Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    Post  SeigSoloyvov Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:22 pm

    I mean yes there are bad examples to find the Russians have done amateur ranked things, like not destroying vehicles if they need to ditch them (assuming they had time to do so)

    Unprotected logi convoys.

    Though maybe they are spreading themselves thin, hard to say we aren't in the field. The ukies do have more men then the russians atm.

    We will have to see within a week what, happens.

    Being pro-russian doesn't mean you overlook such mistakes and make excuses for it, so I respect the general for being logical.
    Serberus
    Serberus


    Posts : 364
    Points : 366
    Join date : 2022-02-24

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 Empty Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    Post  Serberus Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:24 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Am I interpreting this correctly?

    This is a commander and his comms guy (don't know military term) who in the past would have had a radio back pack and a whip aerial and now has a tablet and a couple of mobile phone like devices.

    I believe he is operating a drone

    JohninMK, lancelot, Mir and EkErilaz like this post

    Isos
    Isos


    Posts : 10516
    Points : 10502
    Join date : 2015-11-06

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 Empty Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    Post  Isos Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:26 pm

    He is right. Officers are handlling this war very badly. They thought it would end quickly and don't want to be held accoubtable so they don't take iniciatives or decisions.

    Airforce compensate the number advantage of the ukrainians and their ambush tactics. Yet russians aren't using it. Air defences should have been 24/7 attacked by drones.

    Big_Gazza and miketheterrible dislike this post

    avatar
    Guest
    Guest


    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 Empty Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    Post  Guest Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:28 pm

    Serberus wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Am I interpreting this correctly?

    This is a commander and his comms guy (don't know military term) who in the past would have had a radio back pack and a whip aerial and now has a tablet and a couple of mobile phone like devices.

    I believe he is operating a drone

    Yes it's a drone controller hooked into Tablet for feed.
    avatar
    Guest
    Guest


    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 Empty Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    Post  Guest Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:29 pm

    Isos wrote:He is right. Officers are handlling this war very badly. They thought it would end quickly and don't want to be held accoubtable so they don't take iniciatives or decisions.

    Airforce compensate the number advantage of the ukrainians and  their ambush tactics. Yet russians aren't using it. Air defences should have been 24/7 attacked by drones.

    And I just saw first video of Orion being used in Ukraine. SIgn they are getting little desperate.
    miketheterrible
    miketheterrible


    Posts : 7403
    Points : 7377
    Join date : 2016-11-06

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 Empty Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    Post  miketheterrible Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:30 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Am I interpreting this correctly?

    This is a commander and his comms guy (don't know military term) who in the past would have had a radio back pack and a whip aerial and now has a tablet and a couple of mobile phone like devices.

    marqs
    @MarQs__
    ·
    39m
    Russian Forces in Volnovakha


    SORRY, IGNORE THE FIRST VIDEO, DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS THERE


    About 2010 or so, the Russians were developing comm systems to fix the issue that existed in Georgia in 2008 war. A lot of the comm systems that came out where standard digital radios and receivers to making smart phone like radio devices. Rostec is the developers.

    JohninMK likes this post

    Erk
    Erk


    Posts : 879
    Points : 890
    Join date : 2015-04-26
    Location : Empire of Lies

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 Empty Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    Post  Erk Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:32 pm

    Isos wrote:He is right. Officers are handlling this war very badly. They thought it would end quickly and don't want to be held accoubtable so they don't take iniciatives or decisions.

    Airforce compensate the number advantage of the ukrainians and their ambush tactics. Yet russians aren't using it. Air defences should have been 24/7 attacked by drones.

    At no point have either the Russian government or the military made any statements on how long the special operation in Ukraine will take. It could be days it could be years or anything in between. They have gone out of their way not to specify a time frame so you can safely ignore claims like "They thought it would end quickly" as trolling.

    GarryB, Big_Gazza, auslander, miketheterrible and Mir like this post

    avatar
    Guest
    Guest


    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 Empty Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    Post  Guest Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:34 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    SORRY, IGNORE THE FIRST VIDEO, DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS THERE


    Damn that's grim sight 😞
    Isos
    Isos


    Posts : 10516
    Points : 10502
    Join date : 2015-11-06

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 Empty Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    Post  Isos Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:34 pm

    Orlan wrote:
    Isos wrote:He is right. Officers are handlling this war very badly. They thought it would end quickly and don't want to be held accoubtable so they don't take iniciatives or decisions.

    Airforce compensate the number advantage of the ukrainians and  their ambush tactics. Yet russians aren't using it. Air defences should have been 24/7 attacked by drones.

    And I just saw first video of Orion being used in Ukraine. SIgn they are getting little desperate.

    Desperate ? No. They are being realistic. Ukrainian fight with ambush tactics so they need constant drones surveillance around tgeir area as well as communication with artillery.

    Big_Gazza, miketheterrible and Broski like this post

    avatar
    Guest
    Guest


    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 Empty Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    Post  Guest Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:38 pm

    Isos wrote:
    Orlan wrote:
    Isos wrote:He is right. Officers are handlling this war very badly. They thought it would end quickly and don't want to be held accoubtable so they don't take iniciatives or decisions.

    Airforce compensate the number advantage of the ukrainians and  their ambush tactics. Yet russians aren't using it. Air defences should have been 24/7 attacked by drones.

    And I just saw first video of Orion being used in Ukraine. SIgn they are getting little desperate.

    Desperate ? No. They are being realistic. Ukrainian fight with ambush tactics so they need constant drones surveillance around tgeir area as well as communication with artillery.

    No I mean in way that they finally employed one of the 6 or 9 Orion's they have in attack role.
    miketheterrible
    miketheterrible


    Posts : 7403
    Points : 7377
    Join date : 2016-11-06

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 Empty Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    Post  miketheterrible Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:39 pm

    Orlan wrote:
    Isos wrote:He is right. Officers are handlling this war very badly. They thought it would end quickly and don't want to be held accoubtable so they don't take iniciatives or decisions.

    Airforce compensate the number advantage of the ukrainians and  their ambush tactics. Yet russians aren't using it. Air defences should have been 24/7 attacked by drones.

    And I just saw first video of Orion being used in Ukraine. SIgn they are getting little desperate.

    Why isn't this idiot troll not banned yet?

    How is it desperate? Holy shit this is beyond retarded.

    GarryB, magnumcromagnon, Big_Gazza and Mir like this post


    Sponsored content


    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 8 Empty Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

    Post  Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:14 am